2503 réponses à ce sujet

[The Elder King]

It's possible because you made logical decisions. And how is it all sunshine and rainbows? Were we able to save all the colonists? No, we weren't able to save any of them. 
 
It isn't realism when the game shoehorns in deaths that can be avoided for drama's sake. In ME1 and ME3, there were ways we could have saved the characters who die from dying if we were able to be smart. Instead everyone becomes idiots during those scenes.

Not making. Those choices makes Shepard really dumb though.
Also, while I don't agree as Well on sunshine and rainbows, I think Boost was referring to squadmates, since those we can save or kill with our decision, and Are those Directly involved with the SM.

[Panda]

Now I feel stupid. I got both Tali and Miranda killed in suicide mission. I didn't get them loyal to me, because Tali didn't like my choice in her loyalty quest and I sided with Jack in one fight she and Miranda had and that was breaking the camelback with her.

 

Though I actually liked it that way more than having everyone survive. It was exciting and nervewrecking, I didn't know who to choose in what job and what would happen. Only thing that sucked was that in ME3 I couldn't get Geths and Quarians make up without Tali.

[Fetunche]

If deaths are forced its just annoying, like Thane he could have taken out Kai leng without him even knowing he was there.

[The Elder King]

Now I feel stupid. I got both Tali and Miranda killed in suicide mission. I didn't get them loyal to me, because Tali didn't like my choice in her loyalty quest and I sided with Jack in one fight she and Miranda had and that was breaking the camelback with her.
 
Though I actually liked it that way more than having everyone survive. It was exciting and nervewrecking, I didn't know who to choose in what job and what would happen. Only thing that sucked was that in ME3 I couldn't get Geths and Quarians make up without Tali.

To be clear, I was talking about choices in the SM Itself, not before.

If deaths are forced its just annoying, like Thane he could have taken out Kai leng without him even knowing he was there.

Thane wasn't at his best.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

If deaths are forced its just annoying, like Thane he could have taken out Kai leng without him even knowing he was there.

And Mordin had time to make it back to the elevator, but instead just stands there. 

 

And Legion had no rush to upload the upgrades anymore once the fighting was over, so could have made a copy of himself before doing it, making all the Geth upgraded while still being around to continue to lead them. 

 

To be clear, I was talking about choices in the SM Itself, not before. Thane wasn't at his best.

I think they meant Thane could have shot Kai Leng when Kai Leng had his attention on Shepard. 

[Heathen Oxman]

Now I feel stupid. I got both Tali and Miranda killed in suicide mission. I didn't get them loyal to me, because Tali didn't like my choice in her loyalty quest and I sided with Jack in one fight she and Miranda had and that was breaking the camelback with her.

 

Though I actually liked it that way more than having everyone survive. It was exciting and nervewrecking, I didn't know who to choose in what job and what would happen. Only thing that sucked was that in ME3 I couldn't get Geths and Quarians make up without Tali.

 

Meh.

 

I got several of my squadmates killed too. 

 

It took me awhile to figure out that you had to bring your weakest companions with you in the final battle.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Now I feel stupid. I got both Tali and Miranda killed in suicide mission. I didn't get them loyal to me, because Tali didn't like my choice in her loyalty quest and I sided with Jack in one fight she and Miranda had and that was breaking the camelback with her.

 

Though I actually liked it that way more than having everyone survive. It was exciting and nervewrecking, I didn't know who to choose in what job and what would happen. Only thing that sucked was that in ME3 I couldn't get Geths and Quarians make up without Tali.

 

Wow. Miranda is almost unkillable in the suicide mission. You're in an exclusive club.

[KaiserShep]

And Mordin had time to make it back to the elevator, but instead just stands there. 
 
And Legion had no rush to upload the upgrades anymore once the fighting was over, so could have made a copy of himself before doing it, making all the Geth upgraded while still being around to continue to lead them. 
 


I think they meant Thane could have shot Kai Leng when Kai Leng had his attention on Shepard.

The shroud explodes just seconds after Mordin finished tinkering with the controls to counteract the sabotage. Even if he ran to the elevator, it would have simply gone down with the rest of the tower.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The shroud explodes just seconds after Mordin finished tinkering with the controls to counteract the sabotage. Even if he ran to the elevator, it would have simply gone down with the rest of the tower.

No, just that room. The rest of the tower collapses later when we are all in the tomkah driving back to the Hollows. 

[FKA_Servo]

 

I think they meant Thane could have shot Kai Leng when Kai Leng had his attention on Shepard. 

 

 

Man, if only.

[DaemionMoadrin]

The shroud explodes just seconds after Mordin finished tinkering with the controls to counteract the sabotage. Even if he ran to the elevator, it would have simply gone down with the rest of the tower.

 

I would at least have tried to survive. Or just jump out of the window and hope someone catches me or I land on something soft... anything... but standing there.

 

They had him do that so the scene became more dramatic (and it worked) but Mordin was always very practical, he wouldn't have given up so easily.

 

Why did the Shroud explode anyway?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I would at least have tried to survive. Or just jump out of the window and hope someone catches me or I land on something soft... anything... but standing there.

 

They had him do that so the scene became more dramatic (and it worked) but Mordin was always very practical, he wouldn't have given up so easily.

 

Why did the Shroud explode anyway?

Exactly. Mordin knew his talents could still serve the galaxy with the Reaper War, as that is what he does if he doesn't cure the Genophage. 

 

The tower was collapsing because the Reaper Destroyer swung Kalros into it, damaging the support structure. It didn't explode. 

[KaiserShep]

No, just that room. The rest of the tower collapses several minutes later when we are all in the tomkah driving back to the Hollows.

Yeah, the room Mordin is in. Even if Mordin decided to run back to the elevator, it would have no doubt been blown off the side of the tower. That the rest of the shroud goes down later doesn't really matter. While Thane's demise is shoddily constructed, I don't think Mordin's is at all. It just seems like a needless nitpick there.

[KaiserShep]

I would at least have tried to survive. Or just jump out of the window and hope someone catches me or I land on something soft... anything... but standing there.
 
They had him do that so the scene became more dramatic (and it worked) but Mordin was always very practical, he wouldn't have given up so easily.
 
Why did the Shroud explode anyway?

Who knows. The shroud is basically a big gun pointed at the sky.

[Panda]

Wow. Miranda is almost unkillable in the suicide mission. You're in an exclusive club.

 

Lol. I must be super unlucky then. I think I made her leader of the squad while I left to kill main boss. Maybe that's the reason alongside with her not being loyal?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yeah, the room Mordin is in. Even if Mordin decided to run back to the elevator, it would have no doubt been blown off the side of the tower. That the rest of the shroud goes down later doesn't really matter. While Thane's demise is shoddily constructed, I don't think Mordin's is at all. It just seems like a needless nitpick there.

Except it wasn't. Shepard is watching the tower and the elevator is not blown of the side. Only part of the room gets caught in the explosion.

 

Also, it takes nearly twenty seconds between Mordin to stop working and the explosion to happen. With how close the elevator was, he could easily have ran to it and already be on his way down by the time of the explosion. 

[The Elder King]

I think they meant Thane could have shot Kai Leng when Kai Leng had his attention on Shepard.

Understood.

[The Elder King]

Lol. I must be super unlucky then. I think I made her leader of the squad while I left to kill main boss. Maybe that's the reason alongside with her not being loyal?

I think so. Even if characters Are suited for the work They die if unloyal.

[DaemionMoadrin]

I think they meant Thane could have shot Kai Leng when Kai Leng had his attention on Shepard. 

 

Thane had at least three good chances to take down Kai Leng but didn't because of... reasons. Running at him was stupid.

 

Similiar to Shepard struggling with Kai Leng on the car and later at Thessia. That guy is nothing special, once he is no longer protected by plot armor you can take him down in a few seconds. And then impale him as he tries to get up again.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Lol. I must be super unlucky then. I think I made her leader of the squad while I left to kill main boss. Maybe that's the reason alongside with her not being loyal?

 

Yeah, if she's not loyal it's possible she'll die while holding the line and if you take her with you to the human reaper while not loyal she will die. But if she is loyal, she's completely immortal. She's not even an option for the vents or the escort. She can even be shot while leading the other team when she's not loyal and still shake it off.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Lol. I must be super unlucky then. I think I made her leader of the squad while I left to kill main boss. Maybe that's the reason alongside with her not being loyal?

 

 

I don't think there is any way only Tali and Miranda can die. For Miranda to die, almost everyone else needs to be dead first. Or maybe a disloyal Miranda can die if she leads the crew back to the Normandy?

[The Elder King]

Yeah, if she's not loyal it's possible she'll die while holding the line and if you take her with you to the human reaper while not loyal she will die. But if she is loyal, she's completely immortal. She's not even an option for the vents or the escort. She can even be shot while leading the other team when she's not loyal and still shake it off.

Every character leading the second team is shot, Regardless of loyalty.

[Grieving Natashina]

Every character leading the second team is shot, Regardless of loyalty.

Yep and it's only loyal characters that survive.  I ended up getting Tali killed my first game, because I didn't pay enough attention to the proper set-up.  I took two of my heavy hitters with me for the Baby Reaper, and I had a dead Tali on my hands.  I do all the loyalty missions, so I was confused until I looked up a squad setup.

 

What I usually go with is:

 

Vents--Legion

Fire Team 1 and 2--Jacob for both

Biotic Bubble--Jack

Escort--Mordin

Final team--Miranda and Tali.  Tali's drone keeps them distracted while Miranda messes up the mobs with biotics.

 

Speaking of the SM, I only have Tali and Legion's personal missions left in my first (and only) Jane Shepard*.  I usually wait until after I get Legion to take care of Tali's mission because I'm a sick bastard and enjoy the giggles.  Off to the lab ship!

 

*Jane Shepard

_{Age: 31 (at the time of getting spaced)}

Spacer/Sole Survivor

Solider with Barrier

Saved the Council

Made Anderson ambassador

Romanced Kaidan and staying loyal

Saved genophage cure

Paragade in ME1 and ME2, will be fully Paragon in ME3

[Cyonan]

Yep and it's only loyal characters that survive.  I ended up getting Tali killed my first game, because I didn't pay enough attention to the proper set-up.  I took two of my heavy hitters with me for the Baby Reaper, and I had a dead Tali on my hands.  I do all the loyalty missions, so I was confused until I looked up a squad setup.

 

What I usually go with is:

 

Vents--Legion

Fire Team 1 and 2--Jacob for both

Biotic Bubble--Jack

Escort--Mordin

Final team--Miranda and Tali.  Tali's drone keeps them distracted while Miranda messes up the mobs with biotics.

 

Miranda also survives being shot at that point regardless of her loyalty.

 

What I find weird is that Zaeed isn't a correct choice for the fire team leader. He's got proven leader experience and even though it ended in betrayal, so did Garrus' leadership and he gets to count as a valid choice.

[AresKeith]

Yep and it's only loyal characters that survive.  I ended up getting Tali killed my first game, because I didn't pay enough attention to the proper set-up.  I took two of my heavy hitters with me for the Baby Reaper, and I had a dead Tali on my hands.  I do all the loyalty missions, so I was confused until I looked up a squad setup.

 

What I usually go with is:

 

Vents--Legion

Fire Team 1 and 2--Jacob for both

Biotic Bubble--Jack

Escort--Mordin

Final team--Miranda and Tali.  Tali's drone keeps them distracted while Miranda messes up the mobs with biotics.

 

I always switched it up with the Fire Teams, can't let Jacob have all the fun

 

My issue with the SM besides it been easy is that it also should've been longer so we can atleast have all the squadmates use there skills 

 

What I find weird is that Zaeed isn't a correct choice for the fire team leader. He's got proven leader experience and even though it ended in betrayal, so did Garrus' leadership and he gets to count as a valid choice.

 

I kept hearing that Zaeed was a possible choice, glad I never tested it out lol