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[Morty Smith]

Dirty talk with an elcor has to happen. Doesn´t have to involve romance or context.

[Battlebloodmage]

Don't do romance, do bromance. Instead of the heart icon, replace it with a brofist.

[Reezus Christ]

I'm not saying the game will flop, just that romance is a significant part for many people. 

 

 

In my experience on BSN people tend to talk about romances really often, characters that are romanceable are always more popular + heard many times how romances got someone into the game in the first place, even thought they don't tend to play such games. 

 

Then again it might just be BSN. 

Only one way to find out for sure. BioWare goes ahead and makes a romance empty game. They've done it before so it's not too strange.

[wolfhowwl]

Dirty talk with an elcor has to happen. Doesn´t have to involve romance or context.

 

[kalikilic]

Gee, I was on such a nice stretch without anyone throwing petty insults at me because they disagreed with me.

 

 

Are you aware that the people you are referring to are not a hive mind, but rather individuals with their own opinions?

 

 

Wow, that's quite a lofty pedestal that you've put romances on. All those poor developers who had no idea that by not including player romances in their games they were destroying progress and taking us back to the stone age.

 

 

 

I find it kind of absurd to bring equality into this, since it has nothing to do with the discussion (kind of seems like a pointless straw man to me.)

 

this entire post is an indication to me that you have missed every one of my points completely. this community would do well without the likes of you whose only respite in a place like this is to throw around fiery bitchy responses without actually understanding what you are responding to and without adding any thing to the discussion of the topic.

 

in your response you have countered nothing that i have said because of your failure to understand that romantic interactions in a game is like any special feature of any other game; among all its other well-devise purposes, it is a theme that is wanted by a large majority of the relevant fanbase, which is proven by the numerous well-managed straight/lgbt community discussions that Bioware has had with its fans not only concerning mass effect but their other games as well.

 

it is an accommodation of the game put there by the developers that is totally optional yet its presence is essential. take that away and imagine how many people who are expecting in-game romantic relationships would cry in an uproar. it would be ME 3 endings all over again. while we're at it lets take away the option to choose a class, take away the option to create your own character and give him/her a name. oh wait, how about we take away the choice of choosing your gender? 

 

so i have an average idea for you. re-read my first post. everything i had to say concerning the topic is in there. sorry i cannot fathom a more brilliant idea for you. not enough time to waste today.

[J. Finley]

Don't do romance, do bromance. Instead of the heart icon, replace it with a brofist.

 

That's bro, bro.

 

 

Seriously though, romance is cool and all, but it would be nice to have deeper friendship paths.

[Morty Smith]

 

good.

[SlottsMachine]

You sure? What evidence do you have to support this?

 

Yeah. The stats show that the vast majority don't even finish the game. 

[NKnight7]

A good friendship I think was Shepard and Garrus, the unromanced Garrus of course. I can't remember the exact line but at the of the third game you could see that friendship through their final conversation.

[Il Divo]

Only one way to find out for sure. BioWare goes ahead and makes a romance empty game. They've done it before so it's not too strange.

 

Well, "done it before" meaning Baldur's Gate 1 and Neverwinter Nights 1, over a decade ago. Each of their narrative-driven games since then has had romance content.

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Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind Bioware skipping out on romance to focus on other aspects (I'm a bit bored with them). But by this point, it would be unusual, since they've been going on for so long.

[Natureguy85]

it is an accommodation of the game put there by the developers that is totally optional yet its presence is essential. take that away and imagine how many people who are expecting in-game romantic relationships would cry in an uproar. it would be ME 3 endings all over again. while we're at it lets take away the option to choose a class, take away the option to create your own character and give him/her a name. oh wait, how about we take away the choice of choosing your gender?

 

There's nothing wrong with any of that at all if they were clear and upfront about it. Departing from your usual way of doing things isn't always bad.

[Reezus Christ]

Well, "done it before" meaning Baldur's Gate 1 and Neverwinter Nights 1, over a decade ago. Each of their narrative-driven games since then has had romance content.

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Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind Bioware skipping out on romance to focus on other aspects (I'm a bit bored with them). But by this point, it would be unusual, since they've been going on for so long.

Lol I was actually thinking MDK 2, which came out in 2000. But sure, let's go with Baldur's Gate

[Gramorla]

nwn 1 had a romance for female PC: Aarin Gend aaaand Aribeth for male PC. ... the fist Bioware game where the loveinterest for male PC dies definitely in the end.

[Il Divo]

Lol I was actually thinking MDK 2, which came out in 2000. But sure, let's go with Baldur's Gate

 

 Fair enough, but even there, I think the point is that MDK2 is something of an odd ball among Bioware games. ​

 

Sure, it may not have romances, but it's down there with that Sonic game they made that one time in terms of what Bioware is known for, I'd argue.

[Lady Artifice]

 Fair enough, but even there, I think the point is that MDK2 is something of an odd ball among Bioware games. ​

 

Sure, it may not have romances, but it's down there with that Sonic game they made that one time in terms of what Bioware is known for, I'd argue.

 

I didn't know about it. 

 

I mean, it's 15 years old, it might be hard to use it to establish some kind of precedent. 

[CuriousArtemis]

A good friendship I think was Shepard and Garrus, the unromanced Garrus of course. I can't remember the exact line but at the of the third game you could see that friendship through their final conversation.

 

I don't know; I never really felt the whole Garrus thing. The person who became my Shepard's best friend was Liara actually. I just pretend that extremely long and awkward hug on Illium never happened.

 

After Liara, it'd probably be Joker. He seemed to get Shepard in a way no one else did.

[Reezus Christ]

I didn't know about it. 

 

I mean, it's 15 years old, it might be hard to use it to establish some kind of precedent. 

Fam... you need to play it. It has a dog with four arms and a cigar in his mouth shooting people.

[Solar1101]

I can do with or without the romances.

 

romances can be good in an RPG - it gives the player an option.  You don't HAVE to romance anyone,but it opens up character development.

 

Of course some relationships might seem forced due to plot implications (positive benefits beyond merely gooey alien sex).  This is called "shipping" and perhaps ought to be avoided if at all possible but perhaps it can serve a purpose in any one of the possible plots.

 

The problem I have with romances in general is that they rarely (in TV, Film and uhh streaming video media) tend to actually contribute to the plot.  Often they are just a plot device by which the protagonist is either distracted or has his/her mission unnecessarily complicated.

 

You're busy saving the *insert domain here* and of course you take time off to woo your battle buddy.  Of course we never have to deal with the pregnancies that may or may not result from these irresponsible actions.  Everyone just has to be Kirk and stick his dick in the next off-color humanoid alien.  The hanar would probably leave you with burns.

 

So romance is good if it serves the rest of the story

Romance for its own sake is pointless

 

Heck wanna make it good? put in a temptress/temptor who can take the PC off his or her romance path with devastating personal consequences!  We need a good angry break up scene!  Maybe ends with an omniblade through your Mako.   *pays credits to repair*

 

Give people the opportunity to screw it up...but not as lame as the Miranda/Jack argument over who gets to bone Shep.  "I'm his favorite insecure female!  No I am biatch!"  That was annoying.  Ladies needed a timeout and MaleShep's dialogue should have had a really silly option like "ladies there's enough of me to go around".  

 

Ohhh yes I can see it now...Chauvinist personality option.  PLEASE!!! (also militant 2nd wave feminist if you please).

[Sylvius the Mad]

To OP, don't like them, dont play them. No one is forcing you to do romance.

To the rest of the people losing their minds or whatever, bioware is not going to cut out something that been in their games ever since KOTOR.

BG2, actually.

[Lady Artifice]

Fam... you need to play it. It has a dog with four arms and a cigar in his mouth shooting people.

 

That sounds ridiculous. I like it. 

[Lady Artifice]

BG2, actually.

 

Sylvius,

 

Your current signature is perfect. 

[kalikilic]

There's nothing wrong with any of that at all if they were clear and upfront about it. Departing from your usual way of doing things isn't always bad.

i am willing to bet that if bioware ever discussed that they were looking to make such changes as i have mentioned in the new mass effect game with its fanbase, the exact result i predicted will occur, long before the game ever sets into pre-production. 

 

which is why usually they dont discuss these types of changes at all neither would they be made in a game such as mass effect which has a history of making such accommodations and decisions available. its bad for business and rocket science is no pre-requisite to realise that.

 

TL:DR this thread is pointless where ME:A is concerned.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Sylvius,

 

Your current signature is perfect. 

I thought about updating it to use In Exile's current screen name, but then it wouldn't be strictly accurate.

[Lady Artifice]

I thought about updating it to use In Exile's current screen name, but then it wouldn't be strictly accurate.

 

Now that I know who said it, I enjoy it even more. 

[Angry_Elcor]

Ayoyayoyay.

 

I miss the nice people. But all right, Okay... I think I've had enough booze, let's see if I can sort out the weird sounding stuff that didn't make sense the first time I read them. I make no promises. Creemore has owned my soul since 5 p.m.