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Wait....shouldn't weapons and armor be obsolete, to an extent?


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Silvair

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I keep thinking back to how Omnitool tech should have advance in the intervening millenia, based by how far it advanced in only 2-3 years in the original trilogy.  By the end of it the trilogy can instantly fabricate

 

Tech armor

Omni Blades

Omni Shields

Combat Drones

Various (Often elemental) Ordinance

 

On top of being able to

Modify and repairing weapons and equipment

Scan, interact, and hack with any known (and unknown) electronic interface

 

 
 
Omni Tools are essentially a Green Lantern ring, really.

 

So...shouldn't it have advanced to have replaced conventional armor entirely, with full body Tech Armor and shields?  And shouldn't it be able to instantly fabricate firearms by then as well?

 

Like people wearing "regular" uniforms and clothes, then when combat comes up, simply instantly fabricating full body suits of (hard light) combat armor?

 

 

This

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Should have advanced to this

 

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by the time of Andromeda. 

FOr the record, I'm not a green lantern fan, it's just a perfect example of what I"m talking about.


I don't see a POINT in conventional weapons and armor when you have this magic arm mounted factory that can instantly construct hard light weapons and armor by recycling existing materials.

Hell even the materials shouldn't be an issue.  Just take it from environment for fabrication purposes, like S-Cry-Ed.



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knives have been around for a very long time. They aint going out of style anytime soon.


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Jeremiah12LGeek

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Forget that, can you imagine what 24th century sex toys are like?

 

They probably have their own supercomputers inside them. I bet you can set them to vibrate at cross-dimensional frequencies.

 

They could build a whole Mass Effect around using one to meet new species.


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Forget that, can you imagine what 24th century sex toys are like?

 

They probably have their own supercomputers inside them. I bet you can set them to vibrate at cross-dimensional frequencies.

 

They could build a whole Mass Effect around using one to meet new species.

 

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LPPrince

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He's drunk.



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Moving from Jeremiah's lack of sobriety(:P), I think omni-tool stuff doesn't have to evolve that far. Who knows why it hasn't replaced other more traditional forms of weapons and armor. Maybe reliability? Its the future so there could be any reason.



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Silvair

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knives have been around for a very long time. They aint going out of style anytime soon.

Yet they did.  Omni blades replaced them.

 

 

Moving from Jeremiah's lack of sobriety( :P), I think omni-tool stuff doesn't have to evolve that far. Who knows why it hasn't replaced other more traditional forms of weapons and armor. Maybe reliability? Its the future so there could be any reason.

I hope they at least ADDRESS it, because it is kinda the logical progression of ME technology.



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I hope they at least ADDRESS it, because it is kinda the logical progression of ME technology.

 

Logic? In fiction? We sure?



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KaiserShep

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I imagine it being more like Peter Quill's helmet. 



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The short answer is probably: yes, it should. But the thing is the lore was never about exploring how arms and armour might evolve in light of certain hypothetical technologies. Fabrication is a thing because they wanted to hack glowly powers into the lore with no resource requirements (well that's how I read it anyway). Same as ME1 felt some inane need to have infinite ammo guns and put that in the lore then ME2 hacked them out again when it realised reloading is cool.

 

Seems they might have twigged to ME1's hard armour suits being way cooler than ME2's clothes and invisible barriers keeping the air in and bullets out, and now they're ignoring the lore aspects which justified the later.



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Guanxii

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Tech Armor should always complement not replace actual armor. What happens when your omni-tool breaks down?

 

Always thought Tech Armor should break after x amount of damage and need re-applying and that it should detonate tech combos when purged or breaking. Would you walk into battle with just Tech Armor on because I certainly wouldn't. I've always wanted Blue Tech Armor like the Suns for some reason, just looks cooler.


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Forget that, can you imagine what 24th century sex toys are like?

 

They probably have their own supercomputers inside them. I bet you can set them to vibrate at cross-dimensional frequencies.

 

They could build a whole Mass Effect around using one to meet new species.

 

Pretty sure they're just pocket-sized mass relays... for the truly adventurous and insane thrill-seekers.

 

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After seeing the trailer, there seems to be that no real tech improvement had happened, because that character pulls a M-77 Paladin (or even any ME 1 Pistol, dunno) from his holster.

 

After all these years. Maybe he is just into antiques. But that is just a question of design.

 

Mass accelerators are a cheap, common and easy to maintain technology in the ME-Universe, so why change to more expensive tech like laser, phasor, disruptor or whatever.


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One reason I never really liked the idea of the omni tool as anything other than a scanner/computer interface. Has the potential to really go off the rails with what it is capable of, deus ex machina style.


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Forget that, can you imagine what 24th century sex toys are like?

 

They probably have their own supercomputers inside them. I bet you can set them to vibrate at cross-dimensional frequencies.

 

They could build a whole Mass Effect around using one to meet new species.

When you put it that way, we're lucky we have any romance options at all. 


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We still use guns that have been around for a century.

 

Besides, they obviously chose the recognizable pistol for the trailer, it doesn't mean they don't have better ones (Watch it be the starting gun, the weakest in the game)


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I think one would still wear armor, because safety first. Although I'd love more evolution of the omni tool. Still want an omni-warrior melee class.



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How far we are in terms of tech advancement by the time of Andromeda would depend on how we get to Andromeda. Are we heading to Andromeda after hundreds of years rebuilding the Milky Way? Are we leaving during the Reaper times in case the Reapers win?

 

Will the travel be somewhat instantaneous, or will we be schlepping around for hundreds of years before we get there?

 

If we're leaving during the Reapers, then we're only taking the tech we currently have in the MEU. Even if the journey is hundreds of years, and let's say we're in some cryo sleep, we still only have what we left with. Tech has not advanced for us.


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Well omniblades were obsolete from the moment they were invented because putting swords as an intergral combat component in a game with fully automatic firearms is bad anime levels of stupid as is.

Other than that, there is such thing as the concept of mature technology, which basically means you can only take a certain technology so far before the law of diminishing returns starts to kick in. Take modern firearms, which have only undergone incremental changes in concept since around the First World War. Or agricultural equipment, which did not change for thousands of years until a completely different technology (mechanization) became possible.


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who knows, they probably just have pills  you can take that alters your body chemistry and/or molecular distinction in a matter increasing your available resistance to such things as bullets/and or extra dimentional projectile plasmatic dark matter slivers?  They mined a few neutron stars, cool stuff right there.



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As for why I think the tech in ME:A looks about as advanced as it did in ME3 while it's set presumably centuries later, I'm reminded of the story of this place in Venezuela called Colonia Tovar. Colonia Tovar was settled by Germans in the 19th century, then one day the jungle reclaimed the only way to get there and the settlers were presumed dead. It was rediscovered just over a century later and the people who found it saw the descendants of the original settlers still speaking German and using 19th century technology.

 

So if ME:A is set several centuries after ME3 it wouldn't be too farfetched to believe that during the journey while the Reapers in the Milky Way were defeated and galactic society went about it's business and advancing their technology, the people of the Andromeda expedition were still trying to get there, on their very long journey to another galaxy, cut off from their original home.



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Yet they did.  Omni blades replaced them.

 

Yet there are still some who use swords. Including N7 Shadows and some Cerberus troops...


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I see 2 possibilities:

 

1 - There's a limit to what omni tools technology can achieve, and that has been reached.

 

2 - Most R&D in the galaxy after ME3 was centered around intergalactic travel. So, ships and big guns. Those developments could be more easily trabnslated into armor and small guns; so that's the tech still most commonly used.



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He's drunk.

 

It's not drunk enough until we start talking about Asari birth canals and whether they have sex organs to have pleasure down there or if they're just plain faking it all the time..

 

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Well that escalated quickly