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[Mummy22kids]

I'm fine if Shep's dead (as she is in most of my playthroughs).  After seeing all the rants on the DAI board about wanting the HoF back (since she was mentioned in DAI), even though Bio has said repeatedly her story is over, I think even mentioning Shep in any way will be a mistake.  

[Riven326]

I'm fine if Shep's dead (as she is in most of my playthroughs).  After seeing all the rants on the DAI board about wanting the HoF back (since she was mentioned in DAI), even though Bio has said repeatedly her story is over, I think even mentioning Shep in any way will be a mistake.  

The only thing I can see being a problem for people is Shepard being dead and that being used as canon in the next game. It undermines the entire point of making a decision at the end of ME3.

[Iakus]

 

"Jacob mused aloud, "Any task with sufficient challenge is worth the effort..." (Hanar translation, Kahje Edition)

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Heavy risk 

 

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[The Elder King]

@The Elder King: I get your point of view now, though to some people, their fanon ending is their truth and we gotta respect that. That other poster didn't post their fanon in a respectful way, though to me it sounded like anything coming from "fanons" was wrong, the way I interpreted your message.

 
Yeah, I didn't mean that. I should've been clearer.
 

 
Well, it's not exactly the Catalyst, nor is it Shepard, more like a hybrid of the two? A new entity that's got the Catalyst's near-infinite power, but with Shepard's moral compass to guide it?

That's how I see it.

[CrutchCricket]

Yes.

What this game needs is Raiden.

[Catastrophy]

Someone never got the memo that the Extended Cut fixed that detail

I mean the secret good ending.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Using Shepard in more than one game was a bad idea.

Unless he starts each subsequent game with the skills and abilities he had at the end of the previous game, it makes no sense.

And BioWare hasn't done that since BG2.

New protagonists are better.

[JamieCOTC]

Bunz in the ME thread? S*it just got real.

 

 

It doesn't have to be the same character though.

 

I viewed my guy as more of a vessel than an actual character in the game.

 

Given a different environment, different circumstances and relationships, it's a different character.

To us, Shepard is not the same character, but to the writers s/he kind of has to be the same character. Shepard was not a blank slate, but a nice hybrid of predefined character and blank slate, at least until ME3. If anything, ME3 kind of proves that BW had a definite vision on who Shepard was w/ all the predefined dialogue, emoting w/out player input, and the dream sequences.

[Sion1138]

Using Shepard in more than one game was a bad idea.

Unless he starts each subsequent game with the skills and abilities he had at the end of the previous game, it makes no sense.

And BioWare hasn't done that since BG2.

New protagonists are better.

 

I'd go a bit meta with it and do both.

 

In the world of Mass Effect, 'the Shepard' is the Doctor.

[camphor]

Franchises don't kill their hero....

they do when your hero is a jesus metaphor (seriously his name was shepard i knew he was dead day1 of me1)

 

or she in fairness

[Il Divo]

Killing Shepard may have been a bad idea due to the outcry, but I can't say it would have saved Bioware in the "What should ME4 be about?" Department. Instead, we'd likely have a whole bunch of candidates demanding that Bioware continue his story (because it's not done!) and that they continue to expand on the import mechanic. 

[KaiserShep]

Anything beyond "Shepard dies/takes one more breath" is fanon

 

Ah, but then, "Shepard takes one more breath and dies" is also fanon. Whatcha gonna do? 

[Hazegurl]

My canon MEHEM Shep is freaking retired.

 

Time for a new badass to step up.

[In Exile]

Killing Shepard may have been a bad idea due to the outcry, but I can't say it would have saved Bioware in the "What should ME4 be about?" Department. Instead, we'd likely have a whole bunch of candidates demanding that Bioware continue his story (because it's not done!) and that they continue to expand on the import mechanic. 

I was totally for Shepard dying. If they ended ME3 with Shepard, bleeding and battered, slamming a fist down to trigger the Crucible, followed by an endgame cutscene and an epilogue responsive to your decisions like the EC, I probably would have had 0 complaints about the endings. 

[AlanC9]

Using Shepard in more than one game was a bad idea.
Unless he starts each subsequent game with the skills and abilities he had at the end of the previous game, it makes no sense.
And BioWare hasn't done that since BG2.

Well, they sort of did in ME3. Shepard keeps her levels and abilities. It isn't a perfect match since the talent system was heavily rewritten between games, but Shepard doesn't outright forget any class abilities that were developed in ME2.

[The Sauce of Awesome]

The argument of Shepard surviving or dying is irrelevant if there's any truth to the whole MEA being set centuries after thing. Unless Shepard is secretly an Asari or a Krogan then they'd be dead anyway. A long time dead.

[Han Shot First]

I was totally for Shepard dying. If they ended ME3 with Shepard, bleeding and battered, slamming a fist down to trigger the Crucible, followed by an endgame cutscene and an epilogue responsive to your decisions like the EC, I probably would have had 0 complaints about the endings. 

 

I was fully expecting Shepard to die going into the ending. If he had died destroying the Reapers, but saving galactic civilization, I also would have had zero complaints.

[Reorte]

I strongly dislike the idea of Shepard having to die (aside from character attachments it's the whole "Space Jesus" thing ratcheted up to 11) but getting more Shepard stories (or even cameos) would be a worse idea. Even if I'd no complaints with ME3 I'd still say it's time to move on. Give us a decent new protagonist and other characters in ME:A and hopefully that'll be an end to people asking for them back.

[Vazgen]

Was this supposed to go into ME2 forums...?

[fhs33721]

Franchises don't kill their hero....

Damm, since when?

Must be a recent developement because neither the Aliens Franchise, Terminator, Xena, Assassins creed, God of war, Biowares Star Wars Franchise, The chronicles of Narnia nor every horror franchise ever made seems to have gotten the memo.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Continuity is over-rated, especially in video games.

 

Besides, Shepard wasn't much of a character. Any blank slate, generic, 30 something, white guy, protagonist can fill the void.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Well, they sort of did in ME3. Shepard keeps her levels and abilities. It isn't a perfect match since the talent system was heavily rewritten between games, but Shepard doesn't outright forget any class abilities that were developed in ME2.

I was predisposed to dislike ME2 right out of the gate when my Shepard couldn't still be an Engineer with a sniper rifle.

I really liked how the ME1 Engineer played. Did they ever bring back something like that?

[shodiswe]

It seems they are removed in most Bioware games once they rech the end of their journey. Then Another character can have an adventure.


It also makes it easier for new people to enter. I also enjoy building up characters.

At some Point you have to stop playing god and find a new challenge, Shepard was already the Messiah by that Point. Which is fun, but I Think a new character could be fun and experience the same journey towards promminence, perhaps even a better one where you don't start out as one of the best of the best reaching for the final acknowledgement when you're about to start the game.