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[prosthetic soul]

Yes, you did. You got a conclusion to Shepard's story. End.

lololol

 

Such arrogance.  Telling others how they should feel about a product they bought with their money.  Oh, and that wasn't a conclusion.  Because it didn't conclude ****!

[Monica21]

lololol

 

Such arrogance.  Telling others how they should feel about a product they bought with their money.  Oh, and that wasn't a conclusion.  Because it didn't conclude ****!

 

I'm not telling you how to feel. I'm telling you that you paid for the conclusion to Shepard's story and that's what you got. I couldn't care less how you feel about it.

 

And yes, it does conclude. That's the end of the story. That's how stories conclude. Perhaps you require a dictionary? You not liking is not the same thing as requiring it to meet your desires.

[Rhaenyss]

I just finished the game yesterday, and frankly I'm not terribly upset at the endings. I would probably feel different if I played three years ago, I don't know. Also, I went through all three games in couple of months, so I wasn't invested for too long (I know that the longer I wait, more hyped up I get & and start having ideas about the continuation of the story that couldn't be always met).

 

That being said, I'm really happy with my choice. I chose 'Control', and the ending was really chilling, bitter & kind of ironic, but she got the job done. I found the whole story really interesting, that the reapers were nothing more than a faulty logic of an incredibly powerful and sophisticated AI. The execution *could* be better, I found it was a bit weird that the AI just handed me choices, just like that.

 

I for one think that Shepard is better dead at the end, because that's just the way she is, she knew it would take all to get the job done. But that's just me, it made my gaming experience more satisfying.

 

One thing that's been bothering me is the term "perfect ending", because I thought that all were equally viable. Is the perfect ending defined by survival of Shepard or what? For example, mine couldn't just pick 'Destroy', even though she had the assets. She worked too hard for all species to have the same chances, how could she so casually commit genocide, even though there are other viable options? OF COURSE, there are doubts about the choice, but I kind of like it. Every choice in the end has something that's hard to swallow, and it's up to you to choose which one is the least worst of them all & worry about the consequences later. I chose 'Control', because it was basically 'Synthesis' of one person (Shepard) & she could 'sacrifice' herself in that way, but she couldn't do that to the whole galaxy against their choice (like in 'Synthesis' ending). And that AI speech with distorted Hale voice is priceless & gave me chills. It changes back to Shepard's voice in the end. It gave me hope that I've made the right decision and that this Intelligence won't forget from where it came from & what it was.

[CrystalXPredator]

I'm not telling you how to feel. I'm telling you that you paid for the conclusion to Shepard's story and that's what you got. I couldn't care less how you feel about it.

 

And yes, it does conclude. That's the end of the story. That's how stories conclude. Perhaps you require a dictionary? You not liking is not the same thing as requiring it to meet your desires.

How do you know that what he got that he paid for? Did he already know what was inside before he opened the box and install the game? Got he a vision from a beacon that told him "buy me, you get what you pay for trust me I'm Monica21 from social.bioware forum you will thanks me later". I hate those kind of answers

 

Space magic confirmed.

[Monica21]

How do you know that what he got that he paid for? Did he already know what was inside before he opened the box and install the game? Got he a vision from a beacon that told him "buy me, you get what you pay for trust me I'm Monica21 from social.bioware forum you will thanks me later". I hate those kind of answers

Space magic confirmed.

You paid BioWare for their story. Not for your story or for his. Thats how I know he got what he paid for.

[Monica21]

How do you know that what he got that he paid for? Did he already know what was inside before he opened the box and install the game? Got he a vision from a beacon that told him "buy me, you get what you pay for trust me I'm Monica21 from social.bioware forum you will thanks me later". I hate those kind of answers

Space magic confirmed.

You paid BioWare for their story. Not for your story or for his. Thats how I know he got what he paid for.

And I hate the whiny, "but I didn't get what I wanted!" posts.

[prosthetic soul]

You paid BioWare for their story. Not for your story or for his. Thats how I know he got what he paid for.

And I hate the whiny, "but I didn't get what I wanted!" posts.

And I hate Bioware apologists who think that outright lies are somehow acceptable business practices in game development. 

[Monica21]

And I hate Bioware apologists who think that outright lies are somehow acceptable business practices in game development.

You really haven't found a better way to spend your time after three years?

[prosthetic soul]

You really haven't found a better way to spend your time after three years?

Dohoho, resorting to those kind of attacks now I see?    You honestly think I've been sitting at my computer, stewing about the Mass Effect 3 ending for 3 years straight?  No.  I admit, I am still mad about the endings (and probably always will be).  But it doesn't consume my life like you seem to think it does.  That would be a bit...presumptuous, no? 

[D.C.]

i always loved this argument on assuming from the movie "The Negotiator 

Lieutenant Danny Roman:
I like westerns, like Shane.

Lieutenant Chris Sabian:
It's interesting that you pick one where the hero dies.

Lieutenant Danny Roman:
What are you talking about? He doesn't die. He rides off into the sunset, and that kid says "Come back, Shane!"

Lieutenant Chris Sabian:
That's a common misconception, in the last frame he's slumped over on his horse.

Lieutenant Danny Roman:
So he was slumped, slumped don't mean dead.

[KaiserShep]

3. Actually, Bioware does owe me it.  Because that's what they said they were going to give me before the game was released.  Otherwise, it's called false advertising.  Which is illegal.  I paid 60 dollars for the game.  I expect quality.  If the quality of the game is to be found severely wanting then it is my prerogative to complain about it on their official forums. 

 

Actually, they don't. Whether or not the puffery in their ads or any developer notes made prior to the game's release were accurately reflected in the final product from your perspective would probably not change the FTC's unlikelihood of seeing things your way. 

[fhs33721]

And I hate Bioware apologists who think that outright lies are somehow acceptable business practices in game development. 

Hahahahahahahhaha...  Wait, you are serious? Hahahahahahahahahahah.

 

Under what rock do you live. Have you never seen any marketing campaings before ME3? Spoiler arlert: obvious PR-talk is always full of lies. And not just in the game developement industry but in literally every single industry that exists. And it has been like that for quite some time. That apple juice that is advertised with happy farmers plucking apples? Never saw a single apple, is 100% chemicals mixed together in some factory and will probably lower your life expectancy by 3 years if consumed often enough. This book is the number one bestseller? Weird, about 15 different books in this bookshop alone are advertised as number 1 bestseller. That brand new cleaning agent that is shown to remove burnt fat from you pans with a single wipe? You'll still need 15 minutes to rub the dirt off with your sponge. That game, that is stated to have a huge amount of different endings depending on your choices? Yeah you'll probably get 3-4 endings.

Do I think these practices are acceptable? No, actually I think they are dishonest as f*ck, but by now people should be able to realize that it's most likely all lies beforehand. Honestly if you decide to take obvious PR-talk at face value then it's pretty much your own fault if you end up being disappointed.

[Monica21]

Dohoho, resorting to those kind of attacks now I see?    You honestly think I've been sitting at my computer, stewing about the Mass Effect 3 ending for 3 years straight?  No.  I admit, I am still mad about the endings (and probably always will be).  But it doesn't consume my life like you seem to think it does.  That would be a bit...presumptuous, no? 

 

Sport, I'm not the one who put it in your sig. "Three years and I'm still mad." It's not presumptuous at all. And yes, you're still arguing about whether you got your money's worth because you don't understand what you bought.

 

Get a freaking grip.

[prosthetic soul]

Sport, I'm not the one who put it in your sig. "Three years and I'm still mad." It's not presumptuous at all. And yes, you're still arguing about whether you got your money's worth because you don't understand what you bought.

 

Get a freaking grip.

Do you understand reading comprehension?  At all?  Oy vey....

 

Oh and I'm not "sport" little girl. 

[prosthetic soul]

Actually, they don't. Whether or not the puffery in their ads or any developer notes made prior to the game's release were accurately reflected in the final product from your perspective would probably not change the FTC's unlikelihood of seeing things your way. 

It's still a lie, it's still dishonest, and I still get to complain about it.  Don't like it?  Tough.

[Monica21]

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[prosthetic soul]

Nice rebuttal.  I think we're done here. 

[Kabraxal]

For those trying to "shame" people for being angry still..... there are people still angry over Alien 3 and Resurrection, the Star Wars prequels, series getting cancelled over a decade ago.... I mean, I could go on but time doesn't necessarily mean you don't look back and still get a little pissed off by **** decision making by someone.  ME3 will always have that black cloud of a horrid ending over it.  Bioware and some defenders of the ending will just have to live with it.

[D.C.]

But now, thanks to some comments from BioWare’s Tully Ackland on the game’s official forums, we know what really occurred: Shepard is alive.

• You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together.

so that coming from a bioware employee mean???? 

[Jay P]

No. I did not get what I paid for. Not at all. Speak for yourself please.

There's a difference between getting what you paid for and liking what you paid for.

[AlanC9]

For those trying to "shame" people for being angry still.....

I think it's more correct to say that the objective is mockery, rather than shaming. Shaming is what you do when you want the target to correct a bad behavior. Mockery is what you do when you don't care what the target does

[sveners]

But now, thanks to some comments from BioWare’s Tully Ackland on the game’s official forums, we know what really occurred: Shepard is alive.

• You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together.

so that coming from a bioware employee mean????

"As the Normandy lifts off, there is HOPE that the love interest and Shepard will again be together"

HOPE implies uncertainty. What could possibly prevent a reunion? Only death. Either of Shepard, or the love interest. Considering where we left Shepard and the love interest, my bet is on Shepard.

Semantics perhaps, but Tully could definitely have been more clear.

[fraggle]

HOPE implies uncertainty. What could possibly prevent a reunion? Only death. Either of Shepard, or the love interest. Considering where we left Shepard and the love interest, my bet is on Shepard.

 

I think the more important part is:
"This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct."

 

But in the end, who cares. The end is specifically designed so that players take the characters' fates in their own hands. It can be whatever a player wants it to be.

[MrStoob]

Who said Shepard was dead?

[prosthetic soul]

There's a difference between getting what you paid for and liking what you paid for.

Yeah, and in this case it's the former

Spoiler

AND the latter