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[Spacepunk01]

Another theory

 

Before the asari discovered the Citadel, they sent a ship to Andromeda to explore that galaxy. They had a ship filled with young asari who can survive the trip at ftl speed and also there were a few matriarch along for the ride. They finally arrive in the galaxy. They find a planet that seems habitable and appears not to be dangerous.

 

 

Do you think the Reapers would allow that to happen? They reside in dark space. There is no way anyone could "sneak out" without the Reapers knowing, and if the Reapers was aware that intergalactic travel was possible, they would post gatekeepers to watch for anyone trying to leave the Milky Way.

[Nohvarr]

Do you think the Reapers would allow that to happen? They reside in dark space. There is no way anyone could "sneak out" without the Reapers knowing, and if the Reapers was aware that intergalactic travel was possible, they would post gatekeepers to watch for anyone trying to leave the Milky Way.

......Do you know how much "Dark Space" the reapers would have to cover to prevent anyone from escaping the milky way galaxy? Then there's the fact that all the Reapers invade from one direction implying their entire fleet is located in one spot. This makes sense as the Citadel links to that lone Relay they are apparently clustered around.

[Han Shot First]

......Do you know how much "Dark Space" the reapers would have to cover to prevent anyone from escaping the milky way galaxy? Then there's the fact that all the Reapers invade from one direction implying their entire fleet is located in one spot. This makes sense as the Citadel links to that lone Relay they are apparently clustered around.

 

Indeed.

 

Space is incredibly vast. There is no way the Reapers could ever blockade the Milky Way.

[themikefest]

Do you think the Reapers would allow that to happen? They reside in dark space.

Why are you assuming they reside in the same part of darkspace that the ship would be travelling? Darkspace is a very big area
 

There is no way anyone could "sneak out" without the Reapers knowing,

If they knew that, wouldn't they of known about the crucible location as well?
 

and if the Reapers was aware that intergalactic travel was possible, they would post gatekeepers to watch for anyone trying to leave the Milky Way.

How would they of known that the asari were able to travel from galaxy to galaxy?

[Spacepunk01]

......Do you know how much "Dark Space" the reapers would have to cover to prevent anyone from escaping the milky way galaxy? Then there's the fact that all the Reapers invade from one direction implying their entire fleet is located in one spot. This makes sense as the Citadel links to that lone Relay they are apparently clustered around.

 

Obviously. I tried to make clear that if intergalactic travel was possible, the Reapers would take action to make sure organics couldn't leave. How they would do that, I don't know, but its not like the Reapers had to be in close proximity to any fleet in order to register its departure. However, if intergalactic travel wasn't possible, the Reapers never had to take any precautions to prevent organic civilizations from "sneaking out". 

 

They could construct any number of devices to prevent organics from leaving the galaxy. They would've done this if necessary, and considering the fact that organics utilized Reaper technology, they would know for certain what organics were capable of, while also being aware of their limitations.

[Paridave]

Do you think the Reapers would allow that to happen? They reside in dark space. There is no way anyone could "sneak out" without the Reapers knowing, and if the Reapers was aware that intergalactic travel was possible, they would post gatekeepers to watch for anyone trying to leave the Milky Way.

I didn't think the Asari were mentioned in the leak, which so far seems to be... somewhat accurate.

[Paridave]

Not if the Reapers are confined to the Milky Way. 

 

 

Under those conditions, both ME3 and Andromeda can occur without contradictions. There was only one Reaper fleet, which repeatedly harvested the Milky Way for a billion years, and it was dealt with at the end of the third game. Using [whatever method], people from the Milky Way made their way to Andromeda for [reasons], and encounter a new story. The Reapers are never mentioned again.

Exactly, there are not going to be any Reapers in Andromeda.  

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Under those conditions, both ME3 and Andromeda can occur without contradictions. There was only one Reaper fleet, which repeatedly harvested the Milky Way for a billion years, and it was dealt with at the end of the third game. Using [whatever method], people from the Milky Way made their way to Andromeda for [reasons], and encounter a new story. The Reapers are never mentioned again.

And just because the Reapers have been, as in in the past, to Andromeda doesn't mean they have to be mentioned again. On the flip side, it gets rid of a lot of issues that would arise if they didn't keep Andromeda on par with the Milky Way. 

[Fade9wayz]

Look how many galaxies are around our Local Group.

 

 

Sending minimal reinforcements from fleets in neighbouring groups would replenish "our" fleet easily. And it wouldn't take very long at all, not at the speed Reapers can move. In case of other fleets getting a signal that a solution has been found it doesn't change much because the Crucible wave that implenets the new solution doesn't reach them.

I'm sorry to interrupt, but... there's a Fornax Cluster? Why are'nt we going there instead?

[Andrew Lucas]

I'm sorry to interrupt, but... there's a Fornax Cluster? Why are'nt we going there instead?

Good question.

[In Exile]

Indeed.

 

Space is incredibly vast. There is no way the Reapers could ever blockade the Milky Way.

We can't even block one IRL border. Covering a galaxy is just insanity. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'm sorry to interrupt, but... there's a Fornax Cluster? Why are'nt we going there instead?

There is also the Fornax Dwarf Galaxy that orbits the Milky Way. It is about 440,000 light years away. 

[Solas]

Through an Eluvian obvs

[Kabooooom]

One of the videos breaking down the info we know so far points out that a wormhole-like animation is used more than once. I'm guessing that the races discovery some kind of wormhole technology and use it to implement a contingency plan of sending colonists to Andromeda. I doubt we'll see a relay network there.

Personally, I suspect that they don't discover wormhole technology, but simply discover a wormhole.

And, as a wormhole would most certainly be contrived (seemingly), I strongly, strongly suspect that during the story of ME:A we find that it was not accidentally - that the wormhole was deliberately created by another race to allow the species of the Milky Way to escape.

If we are to believe the leak (and there is no reason not to at this point), we already know Andromeda has an ancient, advanced race of some kind and that the species of the Milky Way are investigating their technology.

[Fade9wayz]

There is also the Fornax Dwarf Galaxy that orbits the Milky Way. It is about 440,000 light years away. 

A Fornax Galaxy orbiting the Milky Way?!? I just sprayed my screen with corn flakes in laughter. Man, astronomy is great!

[ElitePinecone]

Obviously. I tried to make clear that if intergalactic travel was possible, the Reapers would take action to make sure organics couldn't leave. How they would do that, I don't know, but its not like the Reapers had to be in close proximity to any fleet in order to register its departure. However, if intergalactic travel wasn't possible, the Reapers never had to take any precautions to prevent organic civilizations from "sneaking out". 

 

They could construct any number of devices to prevent organics from leaving the galaxy. They would've done this if necessary, and considering the fact that organics utilized Reaper technology, they would know for certain what organics were capable of, while also being aware of their limitations.

 

How exactly would they stop something moving at thousands of times the speed of light?

 

How would they even detect it?

[KaiserShep]

Obviously. I tried to make clear that if intergalactic travel was possible, the Reapers would take action to make sure organics couldn't leave. How they would do that, I don't know, but its not like the Reapers had to be in close proximity to any fleet in order to register its departure. However, if intergalactic travel wasn't possible, the Reapers never had to take any precautions to prevent organic civilizations from "sneaking out". 

 

They could construct any number of devices to prevent organics from leaving the galaxy. They would've done this if necessary, and considering the fact that organics utilized Reaper technology, they would know for certain what organics were capable of, while also being aware of their limitations.

 

 

You could literally travel in any direction you wanted. It doesn't have to be along the disk. There's just no way the reapers could successfully construct a network that could successfully monitor every single point in space around the galaxy.  Heck, the reapers have trouble finding everything within the galaxy.

[Fade9wayz]

Obviously. I tried to make clear that if intergalactic travel was possible, the Reapers would take action to make sure organics couldn't leave. How they would do that, I don't know, but its not like the Reapers had to be in close proximity to any fleet in order to register its departure. However, if intergalactic travel wasn't possible, the Reapers never had to take any precautions to prevent organic civilizations from "sneaking out". 

 

They could construct any number of devices to prevent organics from leaving the galaxy. They would've done this if necessary, and considering the fact that organics utilized Reaper technology, they would know for certain what organics were capable of, while also being aware of their limitations.

You're giving them way too much credit. They aren't either omnipotent nor omniscient. If it was the case, they could have stopped Shepard anytime on Earth at the beginning of ME3 already. Blockading a planet is way easier than an entire galaxy. Yet,the Normandy and other ships still escaped.

Nowhere in the codex is it said they can do anything and everything you believe they can/want to do, or they wouldn't have needed some random organic to make a decision for them. Besides, saying they developed intergalactic travel for us to discover is like saying: Well, we  made you develop in the MW along the path we desired, then at some point we decide to wipe you out, but we leave you a convenient backdoor just for **** and giggles, so we can continue this silly game of cat and mouse elsewhere. That inefficient to the fullest, and I wasn't aware machines developed sadistic personalities, that's more an organic thing. Projecting your own values and beliefs on such a different kind of being does not work.

[Natureguy85]

As I see it, the Reapers have no reason to go to Andromeda. Their mandate, per ME3, is to keep Synthetics from wiping out all organic life. As long as they preserve organic life in the MIlky Way, they are accomplishing their mandate, even if life in every other galaxy creates synthetics that destroy them. At least until those Synthetics learn intergalactic travel, I suppose. Anyway, based on their actions and dialogue, the Milky Way is all there is as far as the Reapers are concerned.

 

Then add in that the Reapers know nothing about those galaxies and would have to go scouting for organics, while they do know about life in the Milky Way from the Leviathans.

 

As for them blockading the galaxy, again there is no need. They know the technological path of the galactic races each cycle. Sure, someone could have some breakthrough the Reapers didn't expect, but research into new technology is usually based on or branches from old technology.

[ElitePinecone]

I didn't think the Asari were mentioned in the leak, which so far seems to be... somewhat accurate.

 

They weren't mentioned in that leak, but they did come up in a previous leak from a fan panel nearly two years ago. 

 

To me it would be very odd if they dropped the asari, since I think they're one of the more iconic alien races. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

Didn't the trailer show some kind of hyperspace? Looked like a wormhole to me.

 

I would be more worried about the fact that wormholes were never mentioned in the series lore before, so introducing them at this point would require a bit of work on the writers' part.

[In Exile]

Didn't the trailer show some kind of hyperspace? Looked like a wormhole to me.

 

I would be more worried about the fact that wormholes were never mentioned in the series lore before, so introducing them at this point would require a bit of work on the writers' part.

Wormholes are closer to gravity than mass effect fields, which is to say they're plausibly a phenomenon as opposed to completely made up gibberish. 

[Iakus]

Personally, I suspect that they don't discover wormhole technology, but simply discover a wormhole.

And, as a wormhole would most certainly be contrived (seemingly), I strongly, strongly suspect that during the story of ME:A we find that it was not accidentally - that the wormhole was deliberately created by another race to allow the species of the Milky Way to escape.

If we are to believe the leak (and there is no reason not to at this point), we already know Andromeda has an ancient, advanced race of some kind and that the species of the Milky Way are investigating their technology.

I suspect any deliberately created wormhole would be the product of Cerberus.

 

BEcause Cerberus.

[ElitePinecone]

Didn't the trailer show some kind of hyperspace? Looked like a wormhole to me.

 

I would be more worried about the fact that wormholes were never mentioned in the series lore before, so introducing them at this point would require a bit of work on the writers' part.

 

It was some sort of FTL travel, the UI on the galaxy map display in the scene before that said "FTL destination". 

 

Of course, that doesn't look much like FTL did in Shepard's trilogy, but it could just be Montreal taking artistic licence with the presentation of faster than light travel.

[themikefest]

How do they get there?

 

Use the jet pack that is seen in the trailer. Hahaha