Wormholes are closer to gravity than mass effect fields, which is to say they're plausibly a phenomenon as opposed to completely made up gibberish.
I'm aware of that. What I meant is it will be interesting to see how they introduce them to the series, considering they were never brought up in the original trilogy where it was all about mass relays.
As I see it, the Reapers have no reason to go to Andromeda. Their mandate, per ME3, is to keep Synthetics from wiping out all organic life. As long as they preserve organic life in the MIlky Way, they are accomplishing their mandate, even if life in every other galaxy creates synthetics that destroy them. At least until those Synthetics learn intergalactic travel, I suppose. Anyway, based on their actions and dialogue, the Milky Way is all there is as far as the Reapers are concerned.
Then add in that the Reapers know nothing about those galaxies and would have to go scouting for organics, while they do know about life in the Milky Way from the Leviathans.
As for them blockading the galaxy, again there is no need. They know the technological path of the galactic races each cycle. Sure, someone could have some breakthrough the Reapers didn't expect, but research into new technology is usually based on or branches from old technology.
You just said their mandate is to preserve ALL organic life. Therefore, ignoring other galaxies is against that mandate.
They would only know about the Leviathan's cycle from the Leviathans. That was over a billion years ago. The galaxy would change a lot in a billion years. Earth barely had any life at all at that time for example.
You just said their mandate is to preserve ALL organic life. Therefore, ignoring other galaxies is against that mandate.
They would only know about the Leviathan's cycle from the Leviathans. That was over a billion years ago. The galaxy would change a lot in a billion years. Earth barely had any life at all at that time for example.
All organic life in their galaxy
It's not simple at all. Where does the harvest stop?
If we accept the suggestion made in this thread that the Reapers' mandate extends to all organic life, everywhere, and not just in the MW, they must keep spreading to every new galaxy that they can. Chaos exists in every galaxy, remember?
You can't just put in an arbitrary boundary like "oh well they only go to the ones in our local cluster", since people are already rejecting the much more sensible idea that the Reapers don't venture beyond the Milky Way. Why would there be an arbitrary limit like that, if you're insisting on the mandate applying universally?
Eventually the cumulative travel time between all those galaxies is going to be larger than 50,000 years, and they are going to need more fleets.
It is far more likely that what was presented in the games was true, and the Reapers only harvest the Milky Way. They hibernate for 50,000 years between cycles, and they've never been to another galaxy because their programming only makes them interested in this one.
I'm aware of that. What I meant is it will be interesting to see how they introduce them to the series, considering they were never brought up in the original trilogy where it was all about mass relays.
Oh, I see. I imagine they'll justify it on the basis that exploring wormholes would be dangerous and pointless because of mass relays. They can say academics studied them and found they worked in X conditions, what we find that takes us to Andromeda is special because of Y reasons/precursors are involved, and that'll be it. In general, I expect a new precursor race and Cerberus (or an offshoot) to be involved.
You just said their mandate is to preserve ALL organic life. Therefore, ignoring other galaxies is against that mandate.
They would only know about the Leviathan's cycle from the Leviathans. That was over a billion years ago. The galaxy would change a lot in a billion years. Earth barely had any life at all at that time for example.
No, no, no I did not. I said it's to prevent all life from being wiped out. By this I mean prevent Life = 0. If it was to preserve all life, their own process defies their mandate because they don't make every race into a Reaper.
As for the Leviathans, they know about the advanced and young races. When they raid the Citadel each cycle, they get all the data and knowledge collected by the races of that cycle.
All organic life in their galaxy
The Reapers never specified that they just harvest this galaxy.
There's also the fact that Leviathan makes continual references to the galaxy during your chat with it - up to and including stating that "The galaxy itself became an experiment." It did not speak of "The Local Cluster", "The Universe", or anything outside of the galaxy in any context. If the reapers were ever involved in anything outside TMW, it was without the knowledge of the Leviathan.
How would it know since it is trapped in our galaxy? We don't know what's going on in other galaxies. Doesn't mean nothing is.
No, no, no I did not. I said it's to prevent all life from being wiped out. By this I mean prevent Life = 0. If it was to preserve all life, their own process defies their mandate because they don't make every race into a Reaper.
As for the Leviathans, they know about the advanced and young races. When they raid the Citadel each cycle, they get all the data and knowledge collected by the races of that cycle.
That's not preserving all life. That is preserving life. There is a big difference.
Yeah, the advanced and young races from over a billion years ago. For every species in our cycle, our planets either didn't have life or it was single-celled organisms. As for raiding the Citadel for data each cycle, you didn't say that last time.
The Reapers never specified that they just harvest this galaxy.
And they never said they harvest other galaxies
And they never said they harvest other galaxies
Hence why the idea that the Reapers are intergalactic is just a theory and not fact. Meanwhile many of those on the opposite side of the fence speak as if them being solely in the Milky Way as fact.
Hence why the idea that the Reapers are intergalactic is just a theory and not fact. Meanwhile many of those on the opposite side of the fence speak as if them being solely in the Milky Way as fact.
Because the Starbrat would've mentioned it when it talked about looking for new solutions
Because the Starbrat would've mentioned it when it talked about looking for new solutions
Why would he?
Why would he?
Because he talked about trying new solutions? 
Because he talked about trying new solutions?
He doesn't have to mention other galaxies while discussing that though.
I'm asking why he would specifically mention other galaxies while talking to Shepard?
The Reapers never specified that they just harvest this galaxy.
How would it know since it is trapped in our galaxy? We don't know what's going on in other galaxies. Doesn't mean nothing is.
That's not preserving all life. That is preserving life. There is a big difference.
Yeah, the advanced and young races from over a billion years ago. For every species in our cycle, our planets either didn't have life or it was single-celled organisms. As for raiding the Citadel for data each cycle, you didn't say that last time.
They don't specify but they give no indication that they go outside of the galaxy.
If the Leviathans don't know about other galaxies, how would the Catalyst?
I never said they were preserving all life. I said they were keeping all life from being wiped out, as in totally eliminated. They are preventing life = 0 not death = 0.
I didn't talk about gaining data last time because Mass Effect 1 did.
They don't specify but they give no indication that they go outside of the galaxy.
If the Leviathans don't know about other galaxies, how would the Catalyst?
I never said they were preserving all life. I said they were keeping all life from being wiped out, as in totally eliminated. They are preventing life = 0 not death = 0.
I didn't talk about gaining data last time because Mass Effect 1 did.
Hence it being a theory/hypothesis.
Because Reapers can reach other galaxies.
Sorry for misreading.
Hence it being a theory/hypothesis.
Which is also more likely than Reapers harvesting every galaxy
Which is also more likely than Reapers harvesting every galaxy
Of course "every" galaxy is it's own special kind of stupid...
Which is also more likely than Reapers harvesting every galaxy
Who said they are harvesting every galaxy?
Who said they are harvesting every galaxy?
I was exaggerating the every part, but if the Reapers supposedly does harvest Andromeda what stops them from doing other galaxies too?
I was exaggerating the every part, but if the Reapers supposedly does harvest Andromeda what stops them from doing other galaxies too?
Same thing that stops us from going to other star systems right now: we don't have the technological capacity for it yet.
The Reapers are capable of going to the galaxies in our local galactic group, but they could not possess the ability to be intergroup yet.
Same thing that stops us from going to other star systems right now: we don't have the technological capacity for it yet.
The Reapers are capable of going to the galaxies in our local galactic group, but they could not possess the ability to be intergroup yet.
Are you speaking RL or Mass Effect?
People need to let go of this organic life bit. My intestinal fauna is "organic life". But you don't see the reapers obliterating all planets to just keep chains of intestines suspended in feeding tubes.
Clearly you haven't met Reaper Destroyer #1126780
Are you speaking RL or Mass Effect?
The comparison of us is in real life. Obviously in Mass Effect we can, because we possess the technological capacity to.
The comparison of us is real life.
So they have the technological capacity to go to Andromeda but not the next galaxy when we don't know how far that is?
And comparing them to us in RL isn't really a good comparison in the first place
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