No, the mandate was all organic life. That was their interest: "Tribute does not flow from a dead race"
"Preserve life at any cost" the Leviathans' own words.
FTL drives as of ME3 can't run for more than fifty hours or so without discharging enough static electricity intot he ship to fry the crew, blow out electronics and even fuse bulkheads. Given it would take over two hundred years even at Reaper speeds, and the lack of planetary bodies to safely discharge into in dark space. I'm afraid it's unlikely.
I follow you on that but i meant the "Time frame" in which we leave the milky way (via wormhole). Either right after the Bartarian relay is destroyed, or when Thessia falls because the asari councilor does talk about "continuation of our species ".
Kind of like putting this together with your earlier hypothesis, The Thessia time frame seems to fit but also it seems harder to explain than the Noveria one...
false again
Their mandate is preserve leviathan life, or do the leviathan strike you as the humanitarian kind? They programmed the AI with the sole purpose of preserving their interest .
https://youtu.be/HRBN_EF3NRo?t=3m
They probably stayed in the Milky Way or does anybody want to see them again?
Perhaps the reapers went to Andromeda, got their teeth kicked in by the Remnant or some other super civ, because the reapers could pull their usual con game and the starkid erased the concept of other galaxies from his mind because it would invalidate his belief that synthetics will always be victorious even further.
Or they simply had no drive without the discharge problem.
No the mandate was preserve all organic life that can be used by the leviathan, everything outside their sphere of influence (and there isn't any type of information that leviathan empire spanned other galaxy) wasn't taken in consideration because not exploitable.
The mission was "preserve us and our present and future slave races".
That may have been the Leviathans' intention. But the Reapers took it far beyond that through the power of loopholes and troll logic (the harvests are proof enough of that). They are not constrained by the Leviathans' petty wants.
They probably stayed in the Milky Way or does anybody want to see them again?
Perhaps the reapers went to Andromeda, got their teeth kicked in by the Remnant or some other super civ, because the reapers could pull their usual con game and the starkid erased the concept of other galaxies from his mind because it would invalidate his belief that synthetics will always be victorious even further.
Or they simply had no drive without the discharge problem.
Want? No.
But any way of reaching Andromeda (beyond the usual "how the hell did we get here to begin with?") is going to have to explain why the Reapers haven't been there for millions of years already.
No the mandate was preserve all organic life that can be used by the leviathan, everything outside their sphere of influence (and there isn't any type of information that leviathan empire spanned other galaxy) wasn't taken in consideration because not exploitable.
The mission was "preserve us and our present and future slave races".
There was no "sphere of influence" the mandate was just "preserve life at any cost" it was never specified to one particular galaxy.
I think the original mandate was something along the lines of "Ensure synthetic life stops destroying our slave races." The catalyst realized this was not a trivial problem, and so like a good little paperclip optimizer it turned the galaxy into a petri dish to study the patterns of conflict between synthetic and organic life. Eventually the solution it came up with was the reapers (insert "yo dawg" comment here), but it seemed like it wanted a better solution.
Given the original mandate had to do with the slave races of Leviathan, it may have not deemed going to another galaxy necessary. Still, given how many rails the catalyst jumped off of, I'd be a little surprised if this is one it stayed on; multiple galaxies to study seems like it could be useful.
The mandate had no restrictions. The Leviathans didn't even exclude themselves from it.
They may have.
It could turn out the Reapers were limiting the development of Andromedan civilizations as well, and perhaps that is why the Remnant became the Remnant.
I hope this is the case. The Reapers having been to Andromeda in the past is a very logical decision. It presents several pros with little to no cons.
I hope this is the case. The Reapers having been to Andromeda in the past is a very logical decision. It presents several pros with little to no cons.
Also might mean Andromedan mass relays, too.
Also might mean Andromedan mass relays, too.
I still don't see why they have to be necessary
I still don't see why they have to be necessary
They aren't necessary.
I just like mass relays.
The mandate had no restrictions. The Leviathans didn't even exclude themselves from it.
Mandate aside, this makes the whole reaper timeline a bit insane. Like, even if the reapers wanted to do this, would they even have enough time to establish a relay network in both the Milky Way and Andromeda at this point?
They aren't necessary.
I just like mass relays.
But what if the Andromeda Galaxy implemented that kind of tech into their ships 
The mandate had no restrictions. The Leviathans didn't even exclude themselves from it.
Given how arrogant the Levianthans are, it's not that surprising
Also might mean Andromedan mass relays, too.
Hopefully. That was one of the pros I was referring to: an efficient way to traverse the large cluster and the continued existence of one of the franchises' biggest icons.
I still don't see why they have to be necessary
While not necessary, as explained before they make travel more convenient and also make locating worlds suitable for colonization easier since Mass Relays were placed in areas where planets in the surrounding areas were most likely to support life.
Mandate aside, this makes the whole reaper timeline a bit insane. Like, even if the reapers wanted to do this, would they even have enough time to establish a relay network in both the Milky Way and Andromeda at this point?
Well, the Mass Relays and Citadel were invented by the Reapers to help maximize the efficiency of the harvests. The first few cycles were probably against more primitive species to help build their numbers up. So while some Reapers harvested them, others could have been building the Mass Relay Arrays.
Given how arrogant the Levianthans are, it's not that surprising
Agreed. They ever admit that they saw the Intelligence as merely another tool under their command. So their ancestors probably figured like everything else they could control it, not realizing that what all the other tribute races thought with their machines. I was just pointing that out since due to their arrogance, they saw no need to put restrictions on the Catalyst's mandate.
Agreed. They ever admit that they saw the Intelligence as merely another tool under their command. So their ancestors probably figured like everything else they could control it, not realizing that what all the other tribute races thought with their machines. I was just pointing that out since due to their arrogance, they saw no need to put restrictions on the Catalyst's mandate.
They may not have put restrictions on it, but the the Catalyst does share their mindset
Hyperspace camels will be my guess.
They may not have put restrictions on it, but the the Catalyst does share their mindset
What do you mean?
I think this question needs a great deal of attention by the BW writers. Whatever they come up with, I do hope they will give us an extensive explanation for this. There are several ways, I could imagine how this issue could be addressed properly:
1. A gameplay prologue in the Milky Way: This may work, especially if the departure to Andromeda happens during the reaper war. An Intense fight and close escape could make for a cinematically impressive introduction of the new game while allowing us to do some more relaxed world building afterwards.
2. A novel or a CGI movie or some such (please no anime 
). This would be the option that is most removed from the actual game. However, if BW does want to make the cut as clean as possible, I think it's a viable option. This way, the fans have the option to get the information while other players can just start out fresh without any baggage from the transition. It would also give the writers a (theoretically) infinite space to explain everything and allow for a very detailed explanation of a possibly complex scenario.
3. Integrate the explanation in the main plot or a side quest line: They could go with the good old cliche that our guys wake up from cryogenic sleep in Andromeda but no one really knows how exactly they got there. Finding out could be a quest line, which would provide enough room to explain how we got there in little snippets. Making it a mystery that needs to be solved can also add some tension to whatever the final explanation is going to be.
I'd be ok with any of these options but I do think we need some time to deal with the link between Andormeda and the milky way. A 30 second intro sequence and a codex entry, saying "you went through a worm hole, 'cause plot" will definitely not cut it for me.
What do you mean?
That because it shares their arrogance the star brat would end up not caring about other galaxies
That because it shares their arrogance the star brat would end up not caring about other galaxies
I see it as the opposite, actually. There is no way a species as arrogant and dominating as the Leviathans would not want to possess more than one galaxy under their dominion. The entire universe should serve them.
And as pointed out by others, other galaxies would pose a threat to this galaxy if the synthetics there came here thus it is only logical to stop that from happening since it falls under the mandate.
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