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[Steppenwolf]

Just like the Council literally recorded Sovereign being a geth ship, right?

 

How is that at all comparable to not knowing how your race ended up in a foreign galaxy but still having all of the old technology you had when you got there?

[Sifr]

I think an ark with the crew in cryosleep for the journey would make the most sense.

 

According to the Cerberus Daily News, humanity has had the basic tech for this since at least 2075, which is when the Manswell Expedition attempted to reach Alpha Centauri using a sub-light sleeper ship to ferry it's 300 passengers.

[In Exile]

In the case of Mass Effect history is literally recorded. There is no room for such mythical interpretations of recorded events. Even now we can figure exactly what happened at specific points hundreds and even thousands of years ago. It's not like we forgot what happened during WWII or the American Revolution.

That's a feature of technology. As our records improved the risk of history essentially being a propaganda rant decreased. But as you look toward antiquity there are real questions about accuracy. Of course that in no way makes them mythical. These are totally separate issues. We can have really bad records without making up myths.

[In Exile]

A random colonization mission with diverse species? That we know krogan are in Andromeda is interesting, because as far as we can tell they are outcasts in the galactic community until Tuchanka in ME3.

My personal theory is that this will take place so far into the future of humans in Andromeda that the move will have passed on to myth, with details obscured and competing myths confirming no "true" backstory. That'd be a very ME and DA way of handling history.

That can't work, because green explosion has to be explained away. You could only have one of two endings: destroy or control. And even there the actual existence of some species might run into issues.

[CronoDragoon]

That can't work, because green explosion has to be explained away. You could only have one of two endings: destroy or control. And even there the actual existence of some species might run into issues.

 

Sorry for being unclear, but I wasn't suggesting the move to Andromeda takes place that far into the future, but the setting of the game.

 

The krogan aspect of this is why I'd assume a post-Tuchanka, pre-Earth departure. Most likely initiated by the Asari Councillor after Thessia.

 

How is that at all comparable to not knowing how your race ended up in a foreign galaxy but still having all of the old technology you had when you got there?

 

It's comparable if, as I said, someone has the motive to skew recorded history. In such a case accurate representation would rely on oral records, and we're in real trouble.

[In Exile]

Sorry for being unclear, but I wasn't suggesting the move to Andromeda takes place that far into the future, but the setting of the game.

The krogan aspect of this is why I'd assume a post-Tuchanka, pre-Earth departure. Most likely initiated by the Asari Councillor after Thessia.

Oh, I get it. Sorry for the confusion.

[CronoDragoon]

Also, if the game takes place so long after the move, that also eliminates the genophage cured/not-cured problem. You just posit that sometime after the move someone came up with a cure, which isn't very far-fetched. In either case, I'd guess Andromedan krogan won't have the genophage. I don't think they want to roll back that plotline again.

[Paridave]

 

 

Although, maybe this all too place before the Reapers ever invaded.  An experiment gone awry.  A secret project to find a way to cross systems without a relay via wormholes.  Something goes wrong, a bunch of systems, maybe even a planetary base vanish and are presumed dead.  THe whole project is covered up and abandoned.   The survivors find themselves in another galaxy and never hear about the Reapers?

 

Yeah, I can see this happening.  It would explain why there might be just Krogans and Humans.  If the leak is correct, this is why they'd rely heavily on Remnant technology.

 

 

[Jenpants]

It still doesn't answer the question of how can we move so many people in secret, or why the Reapers never bothered with this

 

Maybe the reapers know what's there and would rather NOT mess with it because they know they'd get pwn'd

[Steppenwolf]

It's comparable if, as I said, someone has the motive to skew recorded history. In such a case accurate representation would rely on oral records, and we're in real trouble.

 

So this person wiped the memory banks of every omnitool and data receptacle in an entire solar system to make the arrival to the Andromeda galaxy mysterious? 

[CronoDragoon]

So this person wiped the memory banks of every omnitool and data receptacle in an entire solar system to make the arrival to the Andromeda galaxy mysterious? 

 

Oh no, I'm supposing in this hypothetical scenario that I've concocted based on nothing that such manipulation would occur after the move.

[Riven326]

Well, we're obviously going to have to ask the Covenant for a ride.

[Pasquale1234]

Also, if the game takes place so long after the move, that also eliminates the genophage cured/not-cured problem. You just posit that sometime after the move someone came up with a cure, which isn't very far-fetched. In either case, I'd guess Andromedan krogan won't have the genophage. I don't think they want to roll back that plotline again.

That, or the krogan adapted and noone was interested in doing another genophage modification. That could potentially get you to a new state - one in which krogan fertility is at a reasonably sustainable level.

[Avilan II]

Maybe the reapers know what's there and would rather NOT mess with it because they know they'd get pwn'd

 

Nah, it's easier than that. The reapers are not programmed to care about any other galaxy than ours. They neither want, nor can, interfere. 

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

The Reapers sent a child with the group to monitor the situation. The Cycle cannot be broken.

[LinksOcarina]

Nah, it's easier than that. The reapers are not programmed to care about any other galaxy than ours. They neither want, nor can, interfere. 

 

Or, the Reapers are not involved in any way whatsoever when Andromeda is found.

 

The jury is still out on this whole thing anyway, i'm more inclined to wait and see. Considering how accurate the leak was so far, id say were pretty much jumping the gun on theories.

 

Speaking of which, some thoughts on that. A lot of the proposals regarding the Ark Theory and the reasons why were in a new galaxy don't really mesh with that leak. Such a plot element would likely be mentioned for starters, since that is the reason why you are fleeing to Andromeda. Instead, its not exactly vague, but spelled out for you that the goal is to colonize, not to flee. 

 

 

 

The next Mass Effect game takes place in the Helius Cluster (a cluster of 100s of solar systems in the Andromeda Galaxy), far removed by time and space from Commander Shepard’s heroic acts and the final events of the Mass Effect trilogy. You are a pathfinder, a combat trained but un-tested explorer leading an expedition into the Helius cluster to establish a new home for humanity. As you explore this sprawling series of solar systems (over 4x the size of Mass Effect 3), collecting resources and building colonies, you will encounter the savagery of untamed lands in the form of cut-throat outlaws and warring alien races.

 

Other things that jump out, what exactly is the Pathfinder rank here? Would the Alliance or the Council institute a new initiative that quickly to explore new worlds to get away from the Reapers  with such a name and rank. Would they have time to really "explain" to these pathfinders what their mission is? An untested explorer also implies you are new to the job, which can go either way, but does infer that the Pathfinder "job" is something that the council has done before. 

 

You also have other groups going too, which add to the colonial efforts put forth here. I remember a while back someone mentioned you only needed about 1,000 or so people to re-populate through a colony of any substantial size. But the way it reads through the leak indicates a massive colonial effort, so tens of thousands might be going at once.

 

Strike team missions also don't fit the bill of a fleeing force. It said in the leak you can hire mercs and divert resources to protect colonies. Not to mention you have bases that are set up as well, which imply military operations. 

 

To me, it reads more like a jump at populating another galaxy further in the future, instead of fleeing the galaxy concurrently during a crisis. This is not like a Battlestar Galactica type of thing, where our numbers and resources are limited to subsistence level, since resource management is also a part of the game, and a major part it seems. Instead it feels like Firefly only in a universe I like. 

[Steppenwolf]

Oh no, I'm supposing in this hypothetical scenario that I've concocted based on nothing that such manipulation would occur after the move.

 

...what?

[Sylvius the Mad]

The OP shows a poor understanding of how science works.

Science isn't certain. All theories are possibly wrong. Future technology can be indistinguishable from magic.

[Steelcan]

The OP shows a poor understanding of how science works.

Science isn't certain. All theories are possibly wrong. Future technology can be indistinguishable from magic.

unless its actually just magic ala Starbrat

[Iakus]

The OP shows a poor understanding of how science works.

Science isn't certain. All theories are possibly wrong. Future technology can be indistinguishable from magic.

We've already seen Sufficiently Advanced aliens.

 

Their drives don't seem to go more than twice as fast as current tech.

 

Can something better be designed eventually?  Sure.  but it would take a frakking long time given the galaxy has been developing along the Reapers' paths for thousands of years.  

[Iakus]

unless its actually just magic ala Starbrat

Or "just a matter of resources" like Cerberus

[Anacronian Stryx]

I think it's most likely a naturally formed wormhole is found - and scouts/pathfinders are sent through and .. viola Andromeda.

[LinksOcarina]

I'm maintaining the idea that they reopen Mass Relays, and one leads to Andromeda in the end.

[Nohvarr]

I'm going to have to recommend people wait for actual information on this one. There's really no sense arguing about individual headcanon.

[Anacronian Stryx]

I'm going to have to recommend people wait for actual information on this one. There's really no sense arguing about individual headcanon.

As long as it is idle fun speculation I see no harm in it.. after all there doesn't seem to much else to do at the moment.