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[DextroDNA]

Alright I'll start off by saying I don't know much about wormholes or the physics behind them, I only have a very basic knowledge. But a wormhole is basically a shortcut through space-time. If in ME:A, we end up travelling through a wormhole to get to Andromeda, then we will have taken a shortcut across the universe to get to another Galaxy.

 

This is where my knowledge of wormholes gets shaky and may be completely wrong, rendering the rest of this theory invalid. If the wormhole we traverse through was created by someone (the Reapers, or someone else), then it could have been created in such a way that traversing it would cause time dilation. We travel through out and come out the other side, in Andromeda, in seconds - but in reality hundreds of years could have passed.

 

We know ME:A is set "a long time" after ME3, but then why is the technology so similar to that of the original games? N7 is still a thing, the armour shown in the trailer looks similar to previous games, the guy is still rocking a Carnifex and an omni-blade and we're using an M-40 Mako. Surely it can't be that far in the future if we're still using old(ish) technology... unless the game takes place a few years after ME3 initially and then hundreds of years pass after we traverse the wormhole to Andromeda.

 

In the hundreds of years we've been gone traversing the wormhole, the Council may have deemed the mission a failure and looked into other ways of getting to Andromeda. Maybe they found a solution and managed to travel to Andromeda and set up settlements before we arrive. For us it's been seconds, but the inhabitants of the Milky Way have already been moved into Andromeda for years.

 

So it kind of all fits - we're using familiar technology because we're from the ME3 timeline, but the game takes place hundreds of years in the future due to time dilation from the wormhole. This way, the civs from the Milky Way will be able to feature in Andromeda too, so the game isn't going to be devoid of the races from the Milky Way.

 

Again, all of this could be irrelevant if my knowledge of wormholes and their effect on time is wrong. But what are your thoughts?

[N7Jamaican]

Ever watch Star Trek DS9? I could see this wormhole theory working similar to that.

[Anacronian Stryx]

If you wanna know something about wormholes go look up Einstein Rosen bridge - the theory/Math checks out though the energy theoretically needed is unimaginable.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

No one ever did understand why the Theories named their first child "Wormhole." He had a rough time in school.

[nanotm]

wormhole travel would be instantaneous at both ends,

 

the reason for the tech being similar would come under the heading of "if it works why fix it"

 

the idea that it would take 4 gazillion megawatts per kilogram of mater to traverse the wormhole bridge would suggest that the only way to utilise one would be to use a mass changer to make the portable power source able to create and travel through them .... of course its entirely possible the sexbot from me3 would have figured it out and the crew created the necessary hardware to get joker home for his meds that he would die without after they crashed when the mass effect relays were destroyed /

 

that it would then have remained a secret technology for a hundred years + limited to black ops earth units only wouldn't be out of the way to guess at, lets not forget the citadel and its entire remaining fleets were inside the sol system trapped there unable to return home unless the mass relays were rebuilt or some other tech was developed to take them home, since they couldn't carry enough fuel to traverse the galaxy to get home /

[DextroDNA]

wormhole travel would be instantaneous at both ends,

Instantaneous for the people travelling through it, but I'm sure there are theories relating to time travel via wormholes due to time dilation which is what I was getting at.

[Baroo5]

it doesn't have to be wormholes as it only takes 200-300 years to get to Andromeda which is about the time frame of this game. They could of left during the event of the third game and went into deep sleep or something like that and the tech would be mostly similar. 

[AlanC9]

The wormhole solves other problems, though. Blow it up and you won't have more ships coming along telling you how things went back in the Milky Way.

[Legenlorn]

Just something I noticed. If you watch the whole trailer you will have the screen with the n7 guy and the subscribe button. But behind him is something that reminds me of a star gate like in the film/ tv show

[DextroDNA]

Just something I noticed. If you watch the whole trailer you will have the screen with the n7 guy and the subscribe button. But behind him is something that reminds me of a star gate like in the film/ tv show

It's just a burst of something... don't think it's significant, just an artsy thing

[Legenlorn]

Yeah and the round like thing is infact the targeting we see in the trailer.

[Wayning_Star]

worm holes are out, bent time is in.(space/time folders is how the leviathan travel.)  Just add a molecular transporter at the correct spot and BAM you got a Mass Relay.

 

but in this one I didn't see any thing like a mass relay? It would  seem the traveler just used their trusty credit voucher/calling card and off they went. Like those instant transport things in ME3?

[DextroDNA]

worm holes are out, bent time is in.(space/time folders is how the leviathan travel.)  Just add a molecular transporter at the correct spot and BAM you got a Mass Relay.

 

but in this one I didn't see any thing like a mass relay? It would  seem the traveler just used their trusty credit voucher/calling card and off they went. Like those instant transport things in ME3?

I'll be honest... I didn't understand any of this

[Wayning_Star]

Yeah, but I didn't know quite what to do with grey?

[Iakus]

If you wanna know something about wormholes go look up Einstein Rosen bridge - the theory/Math checks out though the energy theoretically needed is unimaginable.

Crucible 2.0 theory confirmed!  

[Cheviot]

I'll be honest... I didn't understand any of this

Imagine space is a peice of paper, fold it in half, stick a needle through it, then unfold it.

[Malanek]

If you wanna know something about wormholes go look up Einstein Rosen bridge - the theory/Math checks out though the energy theoretically needed is unimaginable.

Which is why it is such a good fit for ME thanks to the crucible. When it triggered it does unleash all that energy you need, it's already written into the story. Wormhole opens up swallowing a bunch of ships and then closes again. The thing Joker is trying to run from even looks a bit like a wormhole in the ending scene. IMO it is far less contrived and better for the story than any other way of getting to Andromeda that I have heard.

[Spacepunk01]

This is a simple illustration of the concept:

 

 

To be honest I don't know how they would reach Andromeda with ME3 level technology. The existence of wormholes could maybe solve this problem, but where did they obtain the knowledge on how to utilize wormholes in the first place? Did the Reapers have this knowledge? I hope not, because then they could probably be found in many other galaxies throughout the Universe.

 

There are limits on current technology that would make a trip to Andromeda impossible:

 

Element zero FTL drives accumulate a static electrical charge when a vessel has been in FTL flight for some time. This charge steadily increases with the amount of time a vessel spends in FTL. Eventually, it must be discharged. This is a problem if you're thinking about intergalactic travel, because there is no place to discharge this energy in the empty space between galaxies. 

[Malanek]

 

To be honest I don't know how they would reach Andromeda with ME3 level technology. The existence of wormholes could maybe solve this problem, but where did they obtain the knowledge on how to utilize wormholes in the first place? 

It's better if the trip is unintentional. Otherwise what is stopping them going back or others coming through? I imagine they want to keep the galaxies isolated.

[Kabooooom]

Instantaneous for the people travelling through it, but I'm sure there are theories relating to time travel via wormholes due to time dilation which is what I was getting at.

He is actually incorrect in the first place. Wormhole travel is not instantaneous. Also, wormholes CAN be utilized in very specific fashions in order to allow for effective travel to the future. The mechanism is the same as time dilation, but the physics involved is a little different. The details are beyond the scope of this discussion, and I'm a biologist, not a physicist, but I have a decent enough understanding of the math involved if you're interested.

My guess is that either the wormhole or ark that utilizes cryo theory are correct. Those are the only ways that tech would be similar to the "present" of the 2180s, yet the game takes place in the far future.

[DextroDNA]

Imagine space is a peice of paper, fold it in half, stick a needle through it, then unfold it.

I get what a wormhole is, I just didn't get what he was trying to say haha

[DextroDNA]

My guess is that either the wormhole or ark that utilizes cryo theory are correct. Those are the only ways that tech would be similar to the "present" of the 2180s, yet the game takes place in the far future.

Yeah, I'm kind of hoping it's the wormhole thing. The ark theory has always bugged me :/

[Iakus]

It's better if the trip is unintentional. Otherwise what is stopping them going back or others coming through? I imagine they want to keep the galaxies isolated.

They have to wait for the bolt of lightning to supply the 1.21 Gigawatts of electricity 

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Don't worry about it. There is enough phlebotinum in the MEU to cover about anything they want to do.