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[DaemionMoadrin]

It's called Mass Effect, Isn't it?

 

Oh, and it isn't Mass Effect without Geth?

 

Are they an integral component of the ME universe suddendly?

 

There are entire Dune novels not featuring Arrakis and they are still Dune.

There are entire MechWarrior novels not showing a single Mech and they are still MechWarrior.

There are entire Sandman comics not featuring Dream and they are still Sandman.

 

Need I go on?

 

Mass Effect is still Mass Effect without Geth. The name doesn't mean every single game has to have the same features. They can be perfectly fine without them, too.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Nope. Mass Effect would never be the same without its notable races. Geth/Quarians/Turians/Asari/Humans/ ... etc. They're a fundamental parts of the franchise. There are many ways by which they can get the Geth and the other races to Andromeda without decanonizing an ending. So, ... ?

 

Name one.

 

The species (not races!) are fundamental to some degree, sure... but most of them are still around. It's only the Quarians and Geth who are potentially wiped out.

 

Btw... "nope" is not a response that works in this context. Use proper arguments please, ideally regarding the facts I listed in my previous post. Otherwise this is not a discussion and it would be pointless to waste another word on you.

[silverserfer28]

Lets just be glad we have more wounderfull Mass effect to play, im hypt up i cant waite to see whats in store its all guess work for us at the minute biowear show us 30 sec of whats coming and everyone predicts the whole game its insane reading tbh,
plus that carnifex better be rapid fire,and what about that thing that came from the ground what the f_%k was that it lookted geth in design or even prothean da hell.

[Former_Fiend]

You know, as someone who picked the Destroy ending pretty much every time, I honestly wouldn't mind if they went with the Control ending as canon. 

 

I think Destruction makes for the best ending to the series, but Control offers the most options for continuing the series without tackling the weirdness of Synthesis.

 

But yeah, there are ways of BS'ing the Milky Way forces/refugees as having left before the crucible fired, which gets the Geth out of the blast zone if nothing else.

[KaiserShep]

Personally I don't see the geth as being particularly valuable as a race to include among the lot that carries over to this game. Other than legion and that one friendly prime, we spend the vast bulk of the trilogy destroying them in droves. I'd rather they just vanish completely. It's the one thing that they were really good at anyway. Besides, the geth as we knew them were gone regardless, with the resolution to Rannoch.

[KaiserShep]

I have a strong feeling that the Catalyst's blathering will have little to no impact on the narrative of this game. 

[Eelectrica]

They're just robots. The Quarians should have schematics somewhere for the original designs.
Might want to make some bug fixes on that AI code though.

[Former_Fiend]

Personally I don't see the geth as being particularly valuable as a race to include among the lot that carries over to this game. Other than legion and that one friendly prime, we spend the vast bulk of the trilogy destroying them in droves. I'd rather they just vanish completely. It's the one thing that they were really good at anyway. Besides, the geth as we knew them were gone regardless, with the resolution to Rannoch.

 

I honestly see the geth as being the most valuable race in terms of what they bring to the table now, especially post-Rannoch. They bring to the forefront the idea that organics and synthetics don't have to be enemies, don't have to be hostile, can work together. 

 

I see all the other races as primarily fulfilling a function, where I think the geth bring something more thematic to the setting.

[KaiserShep]

 

I honestly see the geth as being the most valuable race in terms of what they bring to the table now, especially post-Rannoch. They bring to the forefront the idea that organics and synthetics don't have to be enemies, don't have to be hostile, can work together. 

 

I see all the other races as primarily fulfilling a function, where I think the geth bring something more thematic to the setting.

 

 

The geth were one of the most valuable when the plot made them relevant, but they were, for the most part, sponges for weapons fire almost to the very end. After Rannoch the only time you can even encounter geth in the game is to hit multiplayer and kill more of them, unless of course, the quarians were wiped out and you talk to the prime in London. With the organics vs. synthetics story out the way, it kind of doesn't matter anymore. The geth were never really part of galactic society in any real way throughout the trilogy, so they're not staples of the setting like even the ridiculous hanar are. 

[shepskisaac]

They've confirmed ME:A to take place after the events of ME3. Also, the primary mode of travel in ME:A seems to be wormhole drives (i.e near instantaneous transportation), and those weren't invented during ME3. Such sophisticated technology would likely require a few centuries to develop, at the very least.

And yet the guns, Mako or armors look barely more advanced if at all. A very likely scenario is CGI guys making pretty travel effect that doesn't take long in 90 second trailer without overthinking much whether it looks "wormhole-ish" or not

[Former_Fiend]

The geth were one of the most valuable when the plot made them relevant, but they were, for the most part, sponges for weapons fire almost to the very end. After Rannoch the only time you can even encounter geth in the game is to hit multiplayer and kill more of them, unless of course, the quarians were wiped out and you talk to the prime in London. With the organics vs. synthetics story out the way, it kind of doesn't matter anymore. 

 

Eh. Whether or not that remains a primary story element, I think having the geth there to remind us of cooperation between organics/synthetics has some value.

 

I mean, turians are the soldier race, asari are the diplomat race, salarians are the science race, krogan are the warrior race, quarians are the homeless race, bataarians are the jackass race, vorcha are the mook race. Those are all fairly common niches.

 

But friendly A.I. isn't so wide spread.

[DaemionMoadrin]

And yet the guns, Mako or armors look barely more advanced if at all. A very likely scenario is CGI guys making pretty travel effect that doesn't take long in 90 second trailer without overthinking much whether it looks "wormhole-ish" or not

 

The Mako looks vastly different.

[NuclearTech76]

**** da Geth!!!

 

Someone had to say it. 

[shodiswe]

Given that the ARK mission was most likely launched before the Reaper invasion and most deffinately Before the end of the Reaper war.

They might have hitchedhiked as Spies trying to figure out what that very hush hush Project was that was using up massive amount of the Resources allocated by the organic species of the galaxy.

They were after all monitoring Organic activities and something as massive as a multispecies exodus from the Milkyway would have required massive Resources and that would have attracted attention.

Who knows, maybe the Geth sent their own ships in secret if they couldn't go with the others, their Resources were wast and they needed less energy and materials for lifesupport and no cryostasis.

I think it's entierly up to Bioware, it can be done if they want to and if they follow their own customer research, which as other have stated, a lot of people did "like" the Geth, and appreciated them as something very Alien and interesting.

After the reaper war the galaxy is in shambles, there will be plenty of natural Resources but industry and farming, siciety will be in shambles. It's nto the time or era for grant collonization plans for other Galaxies.
It makes far more sense to send an ARK fleet when impending doom is looming over you.

[Catastrophy]

No it just means that plenty of people fell for the rainbow farting pinnochio sob story that Biower tried to sell the geth as at the last second, because they hadn't played either of the other two games or consumed any other media. Frankly I'm surprised there was only like a 10% difference on the decision when they tried as hard as they could to rewrite pretty much every quarian into a pantomime villian and brush a 99.5% successful genocide and 300 years of indiscriminate, wanton murder of organics that the geth commited under the rug.

The truth is that people were utterly appalled by the stench of the poop suits when the Quarian began taking off their masks. So they shifted gradually to preferring the clean geth platforms. A no-brainer if you really think through it.

[MyDamnAlterEgo]

If they don't use Geth, there will probably be some similar android race. It would be cool if Geth made there way to Andromeda right after the split with the Quarians.

 

If even there's no Geth - there are Khet (even sounds similar) ....

[Fetunche]

They'll ditch the Geth in favour of an army of cameltoe sexbots.

[Quarian Master Race]

Eh. Whether or not that remains a primary story element, I think having the geth there to remind us of cooperation between organics/synthetics has some value.

 

But friendly A.I. isn't so wide spread.

Actually that is the last thing I would want. Such "cooperation" is neither plausible nor desirable. That said, I don't expect my opinion to influence the writing, as Bioware has already shown a clear preference for idealistic transhumanism on this issue.

Yeah it is. The problem is that it almost always has Pinocchio Syndrome, and the geth were no exception. Rarely ever does AI manage to not be either merciless killer robots or misunderstood pinnochios (the geth actually managed to be both at various points due to schizoid writing).