If a 15 dollar DLC came out, and your on a BioWare forum not trolling...I'm guessing the survey would be over 90 percent.
Come to think of it...where is more content? JOH came out 2 weeks after the game for some.
It's getting a bit long in the tooth.
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DLC survey
#51
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 09:13
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#52
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 09:18
That's the part that seems very random.Everything seems on board except for the Qunari bit. What if you aligned with the Qunari, eh?
The only time the Qunari came down south in force (Short of an all out invasion) was when something important was stolen from them. So maybe Solas takes something from them? Unless there is an Invasion in the background. As long as it's in the background and the Inquisitor doesn't resolve it in a single DLC, I could get behind that idea.
#53
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 09:42
That's the part that seems very random.
The only time the Qunari came down south in force (Short of an all out invasion) was when something important was stolen from them. So maybe Solas takes something from them? Unless there is an Invasion in the background. As long as it's in the background and the Inquisitor doesn't resolve it in a single DLC, I could get behind that idea.
Well, the only thing I think of that makes any sort of serious hint about Qunari Invasion and possibility of it happening during the reign of the Inquisition is Iron Bull's tarot card (after we side with the Qun). But even that is a stretch.
#54
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 09:48
That's the part that seems very random.
The only time the Qunari came down south in force (Short of an all out invasion) was when something important was stolen from them. So maybe Solas takes something from them? Unless there is an Invasion in the background. As long as it's in the background and the Inquisitor doesn't resolve it in a single DLC, I could get behind that idea.
The way it's worded makes it seem it is The Inquisition VS The Qunari Army, so unless Solas is trying to frame us I am wondering why they would instigate a fight with us. (PS, I really don't see Solas doing anything like that, i.e. framing, but I certainly see him swiping some Qunari artifact)
A background invasion is fine enough, but the way its worded makes me think it's intended as a Major Plot Point . In the final DLC I was just envisioning something more focused on tying up the Solas/Elven Gods/Fade/Veil threads than opening up a new can of worms...though I suppose that expectation is my fault alone.
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#55
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:03
Keep in mind, even if this isn't fake, it may not be referring to the next DLC, but the third, or the fourth.
I'm expecting 3-4 DLCs including JoH in total, 5 seems overly optimistic.
-Jaws of Hakkon (obligatory exclusive, ugh)
-Deep Roads related?
-Maybe something else? Maybe? Honestly I'm surprised Orlesian streets haven't been used more.
-This 'leak' one?
That's my opinion on the matter. This supposed survey sounds about right for final content.
-Establishes future of the Inquisition (we're done with Chantry direction focus with the main game; its all about the Inquisition now)
-Assassins? Like Morrigan foreshadows. Maybe Tevinter assassins, but just guessing.
-Invasion? Alright. Because if the next game heavily involves Qunari and Tevinter, it would make sense for Bioware to prep for that kind of concept.
-Face a great evil? Par for the course. They need a great evil in order to suck in the most casual gamers with an epic trailer.
-Story-based? Of course. They see how we hate their DAI open world design so far, and know they 'story-based' is what the fans want.
-Confront the one who started it all? SolasMythalWhatever. Most likely. The nature of this confrontation may be confusing, but yeah, Wolf Hunt ahoy.
-High level Qunari enemies would be fitting. This army deserves to be high level.
-Fight across the whole of Thedas? People don't need to look to much into this. In terms of large zones, if we get any in this, they'll still be placed on the Orlais-Ferelden map, IMO. In terms of smaller story sections, they can be anywhere. But generally, no, I'm not expecting to truly explore allll over Thedas. 'Whole of Thedas' can just mean "See that map? We're having you go to a lot of locations on it (old maybe? and definitely new ones)."
-Secrets of the Fade? I hoped for that. I hope Bioware goes all out on it. Impress me.
-New gameplay mode? Eh, we'll see. Could be anything. Could be something considered entirely new, or they're bringing in a version of more dynamic gameplay that DAI was originally presented to have. Whatever - I just want a substantial story chapter that makes me feel more 'completed' with DAI as opposed to that hella lackluster ending and character resolutions.
-$15? A little hard to believe, but really, it could be this price, considering that it may have enough core-themed story that could be considered nearly necessary in order for DAI to be 'truly complete'.
I'm not saying this survey is legit - it just checks all the boxes for me is all.
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#56
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:04
Well it's an expectation I shared. I'm guessing the Inquisition and the Qunari just end up at cross purposes somehow and the Qunari decide the best way to get to their goal is through the Inquisition. Or the Qunari blocks the Inquisition's pursuit of Solas for... Reasons.The way it's worded makes it seem it is The Inquisition VS The Qunari Army, so unless Solas is trying to frame us I am wondering why they would instigate a fight with us. (PS, I really don't see Solas doing anything like that, i.e. framing, but I certainly see him swiping some Qunari artifact)
A background invasion is fine enough, but the way its worded makes me think it's intended as a Major Plot Point . In the final DLC I was just envisioning something more focused on tying up the Solas/Elven Gods/Fade/Veil threads than opening up a new can of worms...though I suppose that expectation is my fault alone.
I have to say though, if this is true, I may never ally with the Qunari again.
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#57
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:07
This. This is a survey which implies the dlc really isn't very close to being done at all, and I'd be surprised if we had to wait massive amounts of time for another proper dlc.
Summer - Next SP DLC. Possible Darkspawn/Deep Roads related. New MP enemy faction incoming too (with the MP stream teasing, I'd be very surprised if Darkspawn don't happen).
Fall-Winter - Maybe another SP DLC, maybe. I'd like that. And like my last post was saying, I'd prefer for it to be heavily Val Royeaux based so I feel that location is used to a much more full extent than now. High level Orlesian fights, max tier Orlesian armor (existing and new) models, different tactics in street fights! Aw yeah, please.
Winter-Spring - This rumored DLC. Finish things all up. Move onto Mass Effect marketing focus come E3.
#58
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:08
Well it's an expectation I shared. I'm guessing the Inquisition and the Qunari just end up at cross purposes somehow and the Qunari decide the best way to get to their goal is through the Inquisition. Or the Qunari blocks the Inquisition's pursuit of Solas for... Reasons.
I have to say though, if this is true, I may never ally with the Qunari again.
Though I can't help but feel that DAI is the last game where we'll see Qunari as outright aliens/outsiders/enemies. I think one of the major writing tasks of the next game may be to give us enough information about Qunari that many of us may actually 'side' (whatever that may mean; it could mean a lot of things) with the Qunari in matters. And after the next game, things could settle down for the Qunari-subject a lot.
Just a feeling.
#59
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:09
I'm okay with an expansion like that. It does, however, sound like the final DA: I expansion. I would also like to see something in the Deep Roads and (more importantly) I want it to involve dwarf lore. The game itself goes greatly into elven lore, JoH goes a bit deeper into human history, and this one seems to deal with qunari. The dwarves should not be left out.
I am willing to wait for the qunari thing in order to do the Deep Roads first.
#60
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:12
I don't think I would. It sounds like WAY too much crammed into it, which means it'll be shallow as a puddle in the midday heat. The main game didn't remotely do the story-hooks it had justice, and I can't see it getting any better if they want to stuff "new gameplay mode", "story-driven", "all across Thedas", "qunari", "secrets of the Fade", and a grab-bag of other junk all into one piddly DLC.
But then I'm not a fan of DLC to begin with. *shrug* Still don't have JoH either, and that one sounds a lot more reasonable in terms of scope.
(It also sounds ominous in terms of "let's get rid of the Inquisition and the Inquisitor one way or the other" kind of way. I love the ultimate sacrifice, but by now the recyclable player characters thing has gotten old.)
Citadel DLC for ME3 was:
-4ish missions (compare to 20ish of the main game)
-arena mode (compare to several N7 sidemissions)
-many short companion visits (compare to a bunch of Normandy companion talks)
-a fun apartment party (which used more story decision tags than anything else in the game save for maybe Extended Cut)
It was $15.
EDIT: $15 and it was basically about up to 1/3 the size of the main game (except for the more blatant filler quests around Citadel) and ended up something like 1/4 the size of the whole ME3 experience (if it included all DLC). That's a lot.
For all we know, this could be a similar treatment. Not so much as blatant fanservice as so much of Citadel DLC was, but at least a big "Thank you fans for sticking with this game and clamoring for content that does this game right." statement. A finale that's a little less money grasping and a little more franchise bolstering.
Maybe otherwise it would have been $20-30, but that's the same I would have thought of Citadel DLC.
To compare, Jaws of Hakkon feels more like a mix of From Ashes and Omega. Obligatory content they can charge higher for (Omega), that could have been in the main game but wasn't (From Ashes).
#61
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:12
I have two hopes for those middle two. I want to explore Nevarra and the Grand Necropolis, maybe they could work that into the Deep Roads one somehow? Could be very interesting. I've always wanted to learn more about the Mortalitasi.-Jaws of Hakkon (obligatory exclusive, ugh)
-Deep Roads related?
-Maybe something else? Maybe? Honestly I'm surprised Orlesian streets haven't been used more.
-This 'leak' one?
My other hope is a Divine Coronation DLC, including a large area of Val Royeaux to explore (Not just mansions and the Grand Cathedral, I'd like to see the city slums and the port for some variety). I could actually see this being folded into the Solas DLC.
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#62
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:16
I have two hopes for those middle two. I want to explore Nevarra and the Grand Necropolis, maybe they could work that into the Deep Roads one somehow? Could be very interesting. I've always wanted to learn more about the Mortalitasi.
My other hope is a Divine Coronation DLC, including a large area of Val Royeaux to explore (Not just mansions and the Grand Cathedral, I'd like to see the city slums and the port for some variety). I could actually see this being folded into the Solas DLC.
My feelings (if you see my posts you'll know I go off of 'feeling' and 'perception' a lot) are that Nevarra will be some part of the next DLCs (not necessarily the land, but more themes and concepts), but not a DLC focused on them.
I'd love to be wrong because I want to see some crazy purplish necromancy crap. Seriously - DAI is the only fantasy game where I've given a damn about trying to understand necromancy. I normally hate the stuff.
It'd be nice to have a single 'fully peaceful' (more or less) DLC that basically embellishes all of the fluff/side story/companion story fun aspects of DAI.
DAI, sadly, gives off a 'half finished' (which I admit is better than ME3's 'half DONE') vibe that I'd like the next 2-3 DLC to dive into and 'fix'. I'm open to that. I may not buy the DLC until 2016 when I'm bored and waiting for MEA, but I'm still open to that.
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#63
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:19
It's fine to be skeptical.@devSin, You're right. Bioware has done these sort of surveys before and they have been leaked before.
That's exactly why somebody might think to fake it.
I'll just say that coming from this source it's more likely than not to be true (but like he says, it was something that was passed to him).
#64
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:21
Everything seems on board except for the Qunari bit. What if you aligned with the Qunari, eh?
It wasn't a big deal anyway. It was background semi-assistance during the fight against Cory. Inquisitor wasn't a part of it except to establish the 'alliance'. A temporary and fragile one.
It could hypothetically even just be brushed of with a single line of dialogue. It was personal protagonist+companion RP, not solid world/faction canon being established.
#65
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:22
.... I just hope this "survey" won't blow people's expectations out of proportion.
#66
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:23
I predict a "That was the Ben-Hassrath, not the Antaam" excuse.It wasn't a big deal anyway. It was background semi-assistance during the fight against Cory. Inquisitor wasn't a part of it except to establish the 'alliance'. A temporary and fragile one.
It could hypothetically even just be brushed of with a single line of dialogue. It was personal protagonist+companion RP, not solid world/faction canon being established.
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#67
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:24
Depends. Am I going to get any character content this time, unlike JOH? That's what I sold my soul to you for, Bioware.
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#68
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:27
You know that saying that goes like "If it's too good to be true, it's probably not true."?
Yeah, that applies here as well. The description sounds ah-may-zing and very exciting, sounds like a lot of content too.
But for 15 dollars? Pfffft, yeah right, BW/EA can't possibly finance the right scope of the DLC with such a low pricetag.
It's either fake or blown out of proportion. And that makes me sad because I actually like the concept of the pseudo-DLC itself.
Sometimes costs are absorbed. The price of one thing doesn't need to be as high as it could actually be. There's benefits to a relatively lower price.
MP shop sales gives BW more money to justify doing what they're doing. A successful MP can mean a more free BW to decide what they otherwise want to create and monetize.
Smaller vanity DLC like the recent Avvar one also gives BW more money to justify setting these sales up with story content (Hakkon-Avvar story material, material that gets players wanting to spend $5 on silly chairs and beds and clothing).
A price can be lower on one thing in an appeal to maximize people exposed to that thing, so they can buy other things.
BTW I'm not talking down to you - you could be right and I could be wrong. I'm only saying that I think there's reason for something like this to be $15 and not $20. Prices don't need to be as high as they could be - especially if they're 'franchise boosting' content, IMO. A DLC like this survey seems to describe, would be one to promote the next Dragon Age game - not just sell itself as only a DLC.
#69
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 10:30
If this is true, then they suck at surveys. Who makes one partway through development of their second DLC? Try doing it earlier
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#70
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 11:03
I'd guess this is NOT the second DLC. From the sounds of things lately coming from Bioware, the second DLC is in the middle of being worked on at the moment (perhaps close to completion). This survey would be coming in way too late for that.
#71
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Posté 17 juin 2015 - 11:23
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We need Arl Foreshadow to clear things up! After all, he did predict DAI in DAO.
#72
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 11:35
It sounds like the anchor is affecting the Inquisitor in some way too
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#73
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 11:37
I'd guess this is NOT the second DLC. From the sounds of things lately coming from Bioware, the second DLC is in the middle of being worked on at the moment (perhaps close to completion). This survey would be coming in way too late for that.
That's what I meant. It would seem odd to have a survey only for the third DLC, when they were confident enough in their previous two. In addition, all the info they need in terms of what people want is here on this forum, and otherwise on the internet.
#74
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 11:38
#75
Posté 17 juin 2015 - 11:46
I took that survey yesterday, it seemed like it came from Marketing, mainly concerned about whether the 15 buck price point is too high, and how to advertise both Jaws of Hakkon and that future DLC.
It would have been nice if we could have provided some written feedback, because I would have been like HAIR NEW HAIR I WILL PAY FIFTEEN DOLLARS FOR DECENT LADY HAIR, but it was all radial buttons. =(
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