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[Tootles FTW]

Though I can't help but feel that DAI is the last game where we'll see Qunari as outright aliens/outsiders/enemies. I think one of the major writing tasks of the next game may be to give us enough information about Qunari that many of us may actually 'side' (whatever that may mean; it could mean a lot of things) with the Qunari in matters. And after the next game, things could settle down for the Qunari-subject a lot.

 

Just a feeling.

 

Really?  I was thinking that the Qunari were being saved for DA4 or even DA5 as a major player/antagonist, perhaps alongside Tevinter.

 

EDIT - also, there was a lot of anti-Qunari stuff in DAI with Solas, and even Iron Bull is an example of how it doesn't work.

[Owlfruit Potion]

I'm sure they could comment that it's fake if they wished to, why wouldn't they be able to?

If they commented on one fake thing, then everyone would assume every fake thing they didn't bother to comment on was legit. (and every legit leak they didn't comment on would effectively be confirmed, which is just as bad.)

 

As for the "expansion" thing, I've often seen that term used to refer to any story DLC, regardless of size (I think I saw it applied to JoH by several articles). But I agree with those who are skeptical of all those threads being satisfyingly resolved in something that costs $15 (assuming that means it's JoH-sized). Assuming that would be a third DLC, coming after JoH and whatever the Deep Roads thing is, I would LOVE to see an Awakening-sized expansion with that description. I guess the Citadel analogy is heartening, at least.

[Tootles FTW]

It wasn't a big deal anyway. It was background semi-assistance during the fight against Cory. Inquisitor wasn't a part of it except to establish the 'alliance'. A temporary and fragile one.

 

It could hypothetically even just be brushed of with a single line of dialogue. It was personal protagonist+companion RP, not solid world/faction canon being established.

 

If I sacrificed the Chargers for their alliance I would hope it results in something more than a hand-wave mention, though granted I agree that in-game the alliance led to nothing but off-screen "allies".  Probably why I never side with the Qunari.  

[Asch Lavigne]

So the Qunari are behind the Breach in a preemptive attack on Thedas? Don't buy it. Qunari have nothing to do with DAI's plot.

 

Also, how can I go on one last quest with my crew after the main game when I have Solas missing?

 

"One last quest," so this is the last DLC? Nope,  don't buy it.

 

Fake.

[syllogi]

So the Qunari are behind the Breach in a preemptive attack on Thedas? Don't buy it. Qunari have nothing to do with DAI's plot.

 

Also, how can I go on one last quest with my crew after the main game when I have Solas missing?

 

"One last quest," so this is the last DLC? Nope,  don't buy it.

 

Fake.

 

My post got buried on the bottom of the last page, but no, this survey is not fake, I took it, it asks players about Jaws of Hakkon and this future DLC.

 

It's possible that they are purposefully being vague and/or mixing up details in order to keep spoilers at a minimum, but it seemed like the survey was intended to gauge whether 15 dollars is a decent price point for DLC.

[Uirebhiril]

 

It's possible that they are purposefully being vague and/or mixing up details in order to keep spoilers at a minimum, but it seemed like the survey was intended to gauge whether 15 dollars is a decent price point for DLC.

 

$15 is a fair price point for a good DLC that is a continuation of DAI story. If it includes real companion interaction, answers to some (but not all) big questions, a bit of romance content, and makes good use of the open space like they did with JoH but failed a bit with the main game... sure, I'd pay $15.

 

Just don't give me a 5-6 hour single quest line with only a handful of new schematics and an extra line or two of companion banter as the wrap-up to Inquisition. The story seriously does not feel like it even got fully started. If it's already over I'm going to be really disappointed.

[Heimdall]

My post got buried on the bottom of the last page, but no, this survey is not fake, I took it, it asks players about Jaws of Hakkon and this future DLC.

 

It's possible that they are purposefully being vague and/or mixing up details in order to keep spoilers at a minimum, but it seemed like the survey was intended to gauge whether 15 dollars is a decent price point for DLC.

Well... Good to know.

 

I'm wondering how much of this is accurate.and how much has been slapped together for the sake of figuring out the price point.

[midnight tea]

$15 is a fair price point for a good DLC that is a continuation of DAI story. If it includes real companion interaction, answers to some (but not all) big questions, a bit of romance content, and makes good use of the open space like they did with JoH but failed a bit with the main game... sure, I'd pay $15.

 

Just don't give me a 5-6 hour single quest line with only a handful of new schematics and an extra line or two of companion banter as the wrap-up to Inquisition. The story seriously does not feel like it even got fully started. If it's already over I'm going to be really disappointed.

 

To be fair, it might not be over - we're yet to find out how Inquisition will be treated in DA4 or any other future game.

 

I mean, this survey - if it actually reveals anything that will happen in this upcoming DLC - only says that "this will determine the future of Inquisition" (I suppose we'll find out whether the organization will doom or save Thedas in the long run).

[BansheeOwnage]

$15 is a fair price point for a good DLC that is a continuation of DAI story. If it includes real companion interaction, answers to some (but not all) big questions, a bit of romance content, and makes good use of the open space like they did with JoH but failed a bit with the main game... sure, I'd pay $15.

 

Just don't give me a 5-6 hour single quest line with only a handful of new schematics and an extra line or two of companion banter as the wrap-up to Inquisition. The story seriously does not feel like it even got fully started. If it's already over I'm going to be really disappointed.

Couldn't have said it better. Personally, I liked Jaws of Hakkon (even if I'd like story/character DLC infinitely more) but I didn't think it was worth $15. A great story/character DLC for $15? Sure.

[PCThug]

My interest is definitely piqued. I've been hoping they'd deal with the Inquisitor's mark in a DLC.

[Uirebhiril]

To be fair, it might not be over - we're yet to find out how Inquisition will be treated in DA4 or any other future game.

 

 

I'm just going on the idea that DA4 will see us with a new protagonist. If it's the Inquisitor for that game too, it's all good, but I doubt that will be the case.

[Scofield]

Tbh i have wondered since i first completed the game if BioWare would leave the Inquisition standing or have it "heroically" fall before the end of the games DLC life, hopefully i get to find out

[midnight tea]

I'm just going on the idea that DA4 will see us with a new protagonist. If it's the Inquisitor for that game too, it's all good, but I doubt that will be the case.

 

I didn't say anything about protagonist - but Inquisition/Inquisitor can always exist in the background.... or some new hero would have to deal with consequences stemming from actions of Inquisition. Might even be an enemy faction in new DA4 (not necessarily "evil" one) - might be interesting

[FemShem]

Well, the only thing I think of that makes any sort of serious hint about Qunari Invasion and possibility of it happening during the reign of the Inquisition is Iron Bull's tarot card (after we side with the Qun). But even that is a stretch.

 

Spoiler

@ Tea...How I've missed your cards!  Pull out the magic pen;)

[BansheeOwnage]

Tbh i have wondered since i first completed the game if BioWare would leave the Inquisition standing or have it "heroically" fall before the end of the games DLC life, hopefully i get to find out

There must be a reason why you can't retire after the game, and the Inquisition has to be fully functional, and even growing. Either it's for DLC, or the next game. Or... no reason? That would be weird though.

[midnight tea]

@ Tea...How I've missed your cards!  Pull out the magic pen;)

 

..... You asked for it.

 

 

That'll happen if Iron Bull ends up as a double agent, mark my words!

"In the middle of marching on Thedas Iron Bull pulls his Badass Dawnstone Greatsword Of Magnificence out of nowhere, yells "F**k you boys, Viva La Inquisition!" and takes as many of them as he can before meeting his glorious end."

 

(at this point I suspect the gate of Heavens open and he's taken home by 47 Not-So-Virgins)

[Sunnie]

The good and bad thing about surveys like this is that anyone can crap them out and call em anything they want.

[Toasted Llama]

Sometimes costs are absorbed. The price of one thing doesn't need to be as high as it could actually be. There's benefits to a relatively lower price.

 

MP shop sales gives BW more money to justify doing what they're doing. A successful MP can mean a more free BW to decide what they otherwise want to create and monetize.

 

Smaller vanity DLC like the recent Avvar one also gives BW more money to justify setting these sales up with story content (Hakkon-Avvar story material, material that gets players wanting to spend $5 on silly chairs and beds and clothing).

 

A price can be lower on one thing in an appeal to maximize people exposed to that thing, so they can buy other things.

 

BTW I'm not talking down to you - you could be right and I could be wrong. I'm only saying that I think there's reason for something like this to be $15 and not $20. Prices don't need to be as high as they could be - especially if they're 'franchise boosting' content, IMO. A DLC like this survey seems to describe, would be one to promote the next Dragon Age game - not just sell itself as only a DLC.

You make some valid points and I could see that work for a DLC that's approx twice the size of Jaws of Hakkon, something you'd normally buy for 20-30 bucks, but the description of the DLC in the survey seems to be way, way, way bigger than Jaws of Hakkon, like Awakening-sized, worthy of 40 bucks at least. "Uncovering secrets of the fade that will change the world as you know it" sounds like some seriously important lore stuff, "test your mettle against the full force of the (...) qunari army" sounds like an entirely new war and "explore diverse, new areas (...) across all of Thedas" sounds like you'd be getting several maps in the nothern half of Thedas; maybe even half of what Inquisition currently has.

Would it really be wise to sell a "dlc" that could be half the size Inquisition was for only a quarter of the price? You think the benefits of new customers would be that big? (genuine question here, btw)

But yeah, you could be right and I could be wrong, although I doubt we'll ever know because I think the DLC in the description is really blown out of proportion I'm suspecting Jaws of Hakkon with slightly less exploration/fetch quests and a few more cutscenes/choices, but still equal size.

[SwobyJ]

You make some valid points and I could see that work for a DLC that's approx twice the size of Jaws of Hakkon, something you'd normally buy for 20-30 bucks, but the description of the DLC in the survey seems to be way, way, way bigger than Jaws of Hakkon, like Awakening-sized, worthy of 40 bucks at least. "Uncovering secrets of the fade that will change the world as you know it" sounds like some seriously important lore stuff, "test your mettle against the full force of the (...) qunari army" sounds like an entirely new war and "explore diverse, new areas (...) across all of Thedas" sounds like you'd be getting several maps in the nothern half of Thedas; maybe even half of what Inquisition currently has.

Would it really be wise to sell a "dlc" that could be half the size Inquisition was for only a quarter of the price? You think the benefits of new customers would be that big? (genuine question here, btw)

But yeah, you could be right and I could be wrong, although I doubt we'll ever know because I think the DLC in the description is really blown out of proportion I'm suspecting Jaws of Hakkon with slightly less exploration/fetch quests and a few more cutscenes/choices, but still equal size.

 

Fade - Possibly a fade level with reused fade assets and really cool story/lore revelations. What of it?

Face full force of Qunari army  - Just means fighting a lot and a scene/setting for that, not a gigantic questline. A big battle, not a new war for the Inquisitor to spend years on.

Explore diverse new areas - this mean more than one or two new areas and each area is rather different from the next. None of these can be 'full zones' like Frostback Basin. Think more Fallow Mire.

 

'Story focused' = not size/exploration/collectables focused (aka not Jaws of Hakkon). A tightened up story chapter that puts the cap on the experience and legend of the Inquisitor.

 

This could be an otherwise $20-25 thing, tuned down just $5-10 to being $15. Tradeoff being 'okay, but as long as you (Bioware) sell a lot of little stuff as $5 vanity packs'. For all we know.

[zambingo]

Everything seems on board except for the Qunari bit. What if you aligned with the Qunari, eh?

The Qun demanded a change.

[Andrew Waples]

The dialogue sounds very familiar to the MEA leak a while back...so maybe? Bioware has made no comment on that leak yet and as it turns out it's called Mass Effect Anodremia (Bioware why you give us a hard title to spell?). So it's possible.

[midnight tea]

The dialogue sounds very familiar to the MEA leak a while back...so maybe? Bioware has made no comment on that leak yet and as it turns out it's called Mass Effect Anodremia (Bioware why you give us a hard title to spell?). So it's possible.

 

I think you mean Andromeda?

[midnight tea]

Fade - Possibly a fade level with reused fade assets and really cool story/lore revelations. What of it?

Face full force of Qunari army  - Just means fighting a lot and a scene/setting for that, not a gigantic questline. A big battle, not a new war for the Inquisitor to spend years on.

Explore diverse new areas - this mean more than one or two new areas and each area is rather different from the next. None of these can be 'full zones' like Frostback Basin. Think more Fallow Mire.

 

'Story focused' = not size/exploration/collectables focused (aka not Jaws of Hakkon). A tightened up story chapter that puts the cap on the experience and legend of the Inquisitor.

 

This could be an otherwise $20-25 thing, tuned down just $5-10 to being $15. Tradeoff being 'okay, but as long as you (Bioware) sell a lot of little stuff as $5 vanity packs'. For all we know.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Fade level. We know that IQ can jump in it through either a sizable rift or eluvian (still in Skyhold), so.... I also suspect that the whole "absorbing memory" mechanic might be used again for exposition purposes.

 

As for Qun... I'm just not convinced that there will be much - maybe we'd encounter Qunari spies or Spec Op group at some point? I just don't see how they can throw even a sizeable battle against the Qunari without diluting the story... Crazy thought, but maybe they'll offer 2 DLCs at once? Or maybe IQ would have to choose - go after Solas and discover mysteries of the Fade, but at the cost of the Qun invading Thedas without Inquisition's help (or vice versa).

Diverse areas - they might be like Fallow Mire or they might as well be dungeons or smaller areas, like Ghilanan's Grove or Cradle of Sulevin.