DLC survey
#176
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 03:28
#177
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 03:33
The qunari aspect makes this seem likely since I remember months ago digging around in the game files via the Mod Tools, somebody found a DLC file that had Qunari character models listed.
Although, I know they've been hinting at some Deep Roads / Darkspawn DLC. But as much I would want to see something like that, why would that sort of thing suit the Inquisitor? Like, why not leave the Inquisitor doing stuff that only the Inquisitor should deal with, like Solas, and leave Darkspawn/Deep Roads stuff to a Grey Warden Player Character, somebody more suited to that?
Everybody is rebuilding and Inquisition is possibly the only power that is not just pretty much left intact, but growing. IQ is basically an unofficial arbiter in matters of of Southern Thedas.
Therefore I wouldn't be surprised that if any new threat arose (like Darkspawn pouring out of Deeproads, for example), everybody would be looking at Inquisition and be like "What are you waiting for? Save us again, Herald!" (and in the meantime hope that it will weaken Inquisition or shift its attention from some of their shadier things happening in the background... or something).
....Or, it might be that Inquisitor would have an interesting lead (concerning, say, Solas) that will eventually land him/her in Deep Roads.
#178
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 03:49
Everybody is rebuilding and Inquisition is possibly the only power that is not just pretty much left intact, but growing. IQ is basically an unofficial arbiter in matters of of Southern Thedas.
Therefore I wouldn't be surprised that if any new threat arose (like Darkspawn pouring out of Deeproads, for example), everybody would be looking at Inquisition and be like "What are you waiting for? Save us again, Herald!" (and in the meantime hope that it will weaken Inquisition or shift its attention from some of their shadier things happening in the background... or something).
....Or, it might be that Inquisitor would have an interesting lead (concerning, say, Solas) that will eventually land him/her in Deep Roads.
Especially if you absorb the Orlesian Wardens. I mean, the rest of them are being all suspicious and gone.
#179
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 03:55
Sounds fake to me. The plot doesn't add up at all.
#180
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 04:01
Sounds fake to me. The plot doesn't add up at all.
Have you caught up on the thread? The general consensus seems to be that the details of the plot are made-up/irrelevant. They're looking for what people want in terms of scope vs cost.
#181
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 04:07
New abilities trees for all classes? Nature spells and Virtuoso in SP?
New potions, tonics and grenades?
If yes, I am in.
#182
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 04:29
If anyone is still doubting the legitimacy of the survey, I got it as well.
For what it is worth....
#183
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 06:01
If anyone is still doubting the legitimacy of the survey, I got it as well.
Spoiler
For what it is worth....
I wonder why I didn't get it... ![]()
#184
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 06:11
So... then I guess we are done with DAI story content?
#185
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 06:13
So... then I guess we are done with DAI story content?
Only if you assume this survey is for the next DLC. I don't see why it would be, since they're mostly done/fully done the second.
#186
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 08:49
So... then I guess we are done with DAI story content?
Doubtful, they’ve most likely been working on the second DLC, possibly deep roads related, since the beginning of the year so if this survey were to be for that DLC then it’s a little late to be of any use to say the least. This survey is most likely just a way for them to gage what people see as value for money, and while some of the story details mentioned may carry forward into some future mega DLC don’t be surprised if this is just a mashup of various plots they have running around to try gage interest in said plots as well. Right now most people just want to know what a certain elf is up to, stuff relating to the Qunari could be teased but isn’t a big deal to most.
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#187
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 09:13
Though it seems to refer to confronting Solas (which was cut from the main game)
#188
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 10:34
It will be exactly like WH a poorly written and conclusive DLC(only difference the eluvian will be bigger the one at the ending) in which you have the following options:- kiss & follow him (romance only)- leave him- stab him
There might be a version of 'slap, slap, kiss' there...possibly followed up by another slap...OR a balled up fist. Depends on how little Lavellan is feeling that day. If she doesn't brain him with her staff or blast him with magic.
#189
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 10:37
Seems interesting but slightly generic.. Would still buy though.
#190
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 01:44
This survey wouldn’t exist unless they have serious doubts this is financially worth it.
Regarding the speculations that there’s a ‘middle’ second major 15 dollar DLC that is being developed now, could be. It’s possible EA BioWare analysed JoH sales figures after they started work on the second DLC, which made them decide to put out a survey first to see if it made any sense making a third one.
EA/Bioware has endured a degree of flap over the timed release nature of Jaws of Hakkon, with some fans getting access far earlier than most customers. The reasons that were proffered over why that was necessary are quite valid from a business perspective, but certainly some degree of slight was still going to be felt by those who were forced to wait on JoH after the early access crowd had already been playing the dlc.
Mr. Laidlaw and others have implied that more story-centric content was being prepped, and it is never easy for fans to guesstimate the intentions of a company survey, as there could be a number of behind the scenes concerns (not just financial viability of a planned product) over something like this being solicited?
I'm not sure if this could be categorized as "middle" second major,as I'm hoping for more dlc than say, three for something as sizable as DA:I actually proved to be. Time will tell!
#191
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 02:51
Sounds focused on the wrong things. Again.
Explore new areas and fetch quests? Thanks, I've done Hinterlands. Thrice.
A new optional hard mode? Sorry, I'm playing for the story.
Qunari army? Again, there's no story, and "hey, here's an army, have at it" doesn't cut it.
Secrets of the Fade? Oh, no, wait, wait, let me guess - that gods are spirits? No, it can't be!
Sigh. Anyway, any post-game DLC that has no word of Solas has no chance with me.
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#192
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 04:22
Sounds focused on the wrong things. Again.
Explore new areas and fetch quests? Thanks, I've done Hinterlands. Thrice.
A new optional hard mode? Sorry, I'm playing for the story.
Qunari army? Again, there's no story, and "hey, here's an army, have at it" doesn't cut it.
Secrets of the Fade? Oh, no, wait, wait, let me guess - that gods are spirits? No, it can't be!
Sigh. Anyway, any post-game DLC that has no word of Solas has no chance with me.
From the synopsis, it seems pretty clear that 'confront the one who started it all' means Solas. It's not just me who thinks that, right? I don't see who else it could be unless they're planning on dragging Cory out of the fade for one last outing.
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#193
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 04:55
From the synopsis, it seems pretty clear that 'confront the one who started it all' means Solas. It's not just me who thinks that, right? I don't see who else it could be unless they're planning on dragging Cory out of the fade for one last outing.
Don't know.
I mean on one hand , problem with the Fade and the"one who started it all" (if it's about DAI full story and not just the DLC plot), sounds like Solas.
But on the other hand , there's talk of "great evil"...Doesn't really fit Solas , and what they wanted to do with him imho.
Now of course it's marketing and you want catchy phrases .
But Gosh it would be bad.(well the reaction on the BSN would probably be hilarious )
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#194
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 05:23
Yeah, I have to admit the 'great evil' thing has me a tad concerned too, I certainly hope Solas isn't reduced to that. I guess I was assuming (hoping) that the great evil and the one who started it all are two different individuals, with Solas being the latter. Many tears and much fan rage if he's the former or both!Don't know.
I mean on one hand , problem with the Fade and the"one who started it all" (if it's about DAI full story and not just the DLC plot), sounds like Solas.
But on the other hand , there's talk of "great evil"...Doesn't really fit Solas , and what they wanted to do with him imho.
Now of course it's marketing and you want catchy phrases .
But Gosh it would be bad.(well the reaction on the BSN would probably be hilarious )
Edit: or yes, that it's just marketing speak.
#195
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 06:44
Yeah, I have to admit the 'great evil' thing has me a tad concerned too, I certainly hope Solas isn't reduced to that. I guess I was assuming (hoping) that the great evil and the one who started it all are two different individuals, with Solas being the latter. Many tears and much fan rage if he's the former or both!
Edit: or yes, that it's just marketing speak.
Since we already know that there are TWO gods (well, WERE two gods) roaming around Thedas, there's nothing stopping them from introducing another. I mean, what if the intention of Solas was actually to stop someone (or a group of someones), even if it means doing something morally dubious by himself?
We don't know that yet.... Might as well that he's forced to do something by someone else, be it through some form of earlier bargain or binding. That's a possibility too, even if remote.
There might be a version of 'slap, slap, kiss' there...possibly followed up by another slap...OR a balled up fist. Depends on how little Lavellan is feeling that day. If she doesn't brain him with her staff or blast him with magic.
Ahahahaha.... why do I have a feeling that "slap! then kiss" would be a preferred choice of a large chunk of gamers? ![]()
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#196
Posté 19 juin 2015 - 07:02
Since we already know that there are TWO gods (were, WERE two gods) roaming around Thedas, there's nothing stopping them form introducing another. I mean, what if the intention of Solas was actually to stop someone (or a group of someones), even if it means doing something morally dubious by himself?
We don't know that yet.... Might as well that he's forced to do something by someone else, be it some form of earlier bargain or binding. That's a possibility too, even if remote.
Ahahahaha.... why do I have a feeling that "slap! then kiss" would be a preferred choice of large chunk of gamers?
Yes yes, the return of the Elvhen gods (or another one of them anyway) was exactly what I imagined the great evil could be. It's purely selfish, but I do want to see the rest of the pantheon.
#197
Posté 20 juin 2015 - 04:25
There might be a version of 'slap, slap, kiss' there...possibly followed up by another slap...OR a balled up fist. Depends on how little Lavellan is feeling that day. If she doesn't brain him with her staff or blast him with magic.
The best answer is:
*Levellan uses Stonefist* ![]()
Like when Clarel knocks Erimond around with it ![]()
#198
Posté 20 juin 2015 - 04:57
The best answer is:
*Levellan uses Stonefist*
Like when Clarel knocks Erimond around with it
That's a bit harsh
What if Solas uses his (just to counter) and then the universe explodes?
#199
Posté 20 juin 2015 - 08:53
Actually the story could make sense.
First of all, the Inquisition is essentially uniting southern Thedas under its banner as a fresh and powerful organization. It's similar to how the trade, coin and might of the real world Knights Templar eventually made Europe and the Middle East (friends and enemies alike) see them as a major threat due to their huge influence and power. In this regard, the Inquisition is basically the Knights Templar Order of Thedas on steroids with a messiah figure leading it.
In the eyes of the Qun, this could be a serious threat to their plan of taking over Thedas. Not to mention that the Inquisition is a religious multi-national force with ideals directly opposed to the Qun. At some point it has to be dealt with before it gets too strong. The Chantry's Exalted March with mages was enough to stem the Qunari Invasion the first time and force a truce. Imagine what the Inquisition could do? Especially if the "Herald" decides to lead an Exalted March to help Tevinter against them. That would be bad.
Now say a mysterious elf (Solas) goes to the Qunari. An elf that they know was a close confidant of the Inquisitor due to Ironbull reports and other spies. What if this elf was to whisper sweet things in their ear along with troubling news and secrets about Skyhold? It may be enough to convince the Qunari to send a large expeditionary force to southern Thedas to cut off the head of the dragon, being the Inquisitor at Skyhold. It could even be a full scale invasion of Thedas while it's weak from Corypheus' actions.
From the mysterious elf's point of view it makes sense too if the Inquisition will eventually get in his way. After the events of Dragon Age Inquisition, who could be influenced to stand against and defeat the Inquisition?
Orlais and Ferelden? More or less controlled by the Inquisitor in the end. The Inquisition all but controls the Western Approach, the Dales and Western/Southern Ferelden. Possibly holding much of these regions officially.
Tevinter? Too weak and busy with the Qunari and wouldn't risk the religious and political blowback after Corypheus.
Demons? Look how that worked out for Corypheus and I think the mysterious elf is kind of opposed to this ethically (he really likes spirits). The Inquisition will need to be seriously battered before taking such actions.
The Qunari? Perfect. The only reason they aren't invading the rest of Thedas yet is because they're waiting and preparing for the right time. They only need to be convinced that the time is now. They have an enormously huge army that's loyal and don't care about the Herald as a religious figure or savior. If you want to wipe out the Inquisition and the Herald this is the way. Also, the Qun's nature and lack of knowledge about Thedas' secrets would make them blind to any ancient plots by an elven god after the fact.
This all assumes that Solas' plan involves something that he believes the Inquisitor, the Inquisition and most of Thedas (well, Humans anyways) would never accept. It's possible that the ancient evil that started it all may be something and someone completely different. For all we know, the ancient evil could be the Nightmare demon influencing the Arishok or the Triumvirate to attack for reasons. Maybe it was behind Corypheus originally entering the Golden City. Maybe its something we haven't seen yet. Anything is possible. ![]()
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#200
Posté 20 juin 2015 - 09:00
It will be exactly like WH a poorly written and conclusive DLC(only difference the eluvian will be bigger the one at the ending) in which you have the following options:- kiss & follow him (romance only)- leave him- stab him
I gotta be honest, I'd pay good money for a chance to stab that lying SOB of an elven "god" and watch him collapse through an eluvian.





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