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#26
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Aren´t you people a little tired of games that aren´t old and still look quite decent receiving remastered versions?

 

Come on...

 

A game from 15 or 20 years ago? All right.

 

 

Or maybe a situation in which one generation looks way better than the earlier, like the Super Mario Bros games being remastered in the Super Nintendo. Or the megaman nes games being remastered on the mega drive/genesis.

 

The lack of backwards compatibility (or it´s bad implementation)  in consoles is one of the main reasons why I abandoned the ship and decide to go only with PC gaming. Soon I´ll be replacing my GTX 650 for a much better hardware, as well as migrate to directx12 and windows 10. And you know what? Full retro-compatibility is to be expected. And if it does not happen, it will soon be fixed. 

 

But do you people who play on consoles really want to play a remasted version? 

 

I think I can offer you a suggestion: Grab a gaming pc. The requirements for ME3 are very low nowadays. This game is from the beginning of 2012. 

 

 

There are many, many talented modders out there who produced some very interesting stuff. There´s even a big project that revamped most of the visuals in ME1, using 4k textures. I gave it a try, and it´s most impressive. The alliance uniforms now look just like in ME2 and 3. 

 

Just take a look at the mods available for all 3 games. And all the mods are free. 

 

You can wait until the trilogy is on sale (from time to time you can purchase it for a small amount). The only problem are the DLCs, since most of them need to be purchased separated. But since you people were willing to repurchase the series with console prices and love it so much in order to replay it, I guess money is not an issue.

 

Seriously, take a look, give it a try. It´not just juvenile perverted stuff like leaving the females naked. There are many excellent mods for faces, hair, weapons, armors, Anything you can imagine. If you ask kindly and you happen to have the good fortune of meeting a charitable modder, he or she may even take your suggestion for something that could be added. 

 

And I don´t mean just Mass Effect. Dragon Age and several other games allow you to tweak with a lot of things, like accessing discarded content. 

 

You can even toy around in ME2 and use the squad-mates from the second wave (legion, tali, thane, samara and morinth) in the first wave of missions. With some tweaks, you can even turn Liara into a permanent squad-mate in ME2 (as long as you have LOTSB). 

 

There´s a game within the game when you discover the wonders of the command console. Toying around with the variables can be a lot of fun, specially if you´´re curious, like to try discarded content, or if you´re in a hurry, want to experience the game from a pure story perspective (turning invincible and causing enormous damage) or is simply looking for a new way to enjoy the game after beating it 20 times. 

 

It´s a whole new universe with almost endless possibilities waiting for you. But only on PC. 

 

You don´t have to depend on Bioware, EA, Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft. 

 

While you people dream with a (at least for the time being) discarded remastered trilogy, on PC you could be experimenting a remastered trilogy (of sorts) at this very moment,

 

It´s totally within your reach. You just have to grasp it. 

 

The PC community will be happy to embrace you. 



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But personally I can see it would be unwise for bioware to release a remastered trilogy right now.

 

They´re way too busy with a new IP, ME4, DAI and Star Wars. 

 

The games aren´t that old. They still look good. ME1 is the only one by now that looks dated, But it´s still pleasant to look at.

 

If they tried to re-release the games as close to the original trilogy, there would be a lot of discussion among the entitled fans.

 

Some people would argue that ME1 should have sections re-worked and combat re-done in order to be brought closer to ME2 and 3. And some purists would fight back demanding that the original game be respected and preserved.

 

Fixing the bugs like conrad verner in ME2 could also cause controversy. Some people could argue that the original experience should be maintained. 

 

And there are also the many errors and contractions. People would expect that they be fixed, demanding extra work. 

 

And of course, the ending. A remastered trilogy could spark a whole new drama with the ending (again) with people demanding epilogues for races and characters, or maybe even that the entire mission on earth be re-done. 

 

Why re-open old wounds?

 

The original trilogy can still be played on 360, xbox one (soon), ps3, ps4 (probably in the future via streaming) and computers. In need of a visual re-vamp? Read my previous post, and try mods for pc. 


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Well it would've been nice but thanks to backwards compatibility I am taken care of anyway.  Will still be able to enjoy the trilogy on my xbox one and it's not like the 360 visuals aren't good.



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I'm not bothered either. I think a lot of people have this idea that a remaster would have meant patching up all the flaws with the games, which isn't even what a remaster would've been for. The endings were not going to change, and 2's main plot was still going to be a glorified sidequest. Sorry to the people who wanted it, really, but imo the nonexistence of a remaster is no big loss. Easy for me to say being a PC player, I guess, but yeah. Never saw the point in a remaster, at least not at this stage.

 

As a person with a Jacob avatar, you should be ashamed :P

 

A remaster could have included his epic screaming on Earth.

 


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Well, thank you to the mod community for giving me the opportunity to play better looking Origin PC versions of ME2 and 3 + their DLC packs through the use of mods and a couple of cracks/hacks, because that's what I'll be doing since EA and Bioware have flaked on supporting their most popular franchise's first three games.


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^ Yeah, It feels like they're running from it like the plague.


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This is bullshit!!! The best trilogy of all time is not getting a remaster while other shitty games are. They could let another studio do this.

All about the money at this point. How many people are going to buy a remastered game when backward compatibility is coming? 



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All about the money at this point. How many people are going to buy a remastered game when backward compatibility is coming? 

 

I still would if it was really noticeable. 

 

Like the difference in the Tomb Raider remaster (or the new Halos). edit: Granted, some of those used the original Xbox graphics, so the remaster is a huge generational leap



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Bioware confirms that there will be no ME remastered trilogy. :(

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Not quite correct.

 

1) It wasn't Bioware.  It was EA. 

2) The guy didn't actually say that.  He basically said it wasn't a priority.  Also, he talks about how Bioware should spend it's time.  That doesn't rule out a porting studio (e.g. BluePoint) from doing it. 

3) The author interpreted this to mean that there are no plans, but Aaryn Flynn himself has posted that BIOWARE has been looking into it and solicited some feedback on GAF.  Minds can change and maybe Bioware can make a convincing case to EA to port this over based on perceived demand.

 

 

 

Pipe dream? Not really.  Remember when Microsoft said the do not foresee ever selling an Xbox One without Kinect...low and behold we've been seeing Kinectless SKUs for a while now.  Things do change. ;) 



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Well that was a real let down, hope they remaster it later



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All about the money at this point. How many people are going to buy a remastered game when backward compatibility is coming? 

I would , and even more so if it was mass effect being remastered



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Bioware confirms that there will be no ME remastered trilogy. :(

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I'm okay with it if BioWare/EA permits Microsoft to flip the backwards compatibility switch on for these titles.

 

Microsoft has said that decision is up to the publishers.  The XB360 version of the original Mass Effect was actually published by Microsoft, so they could do that one by granting the permission themselves.  But ME2 and ME3 will require BioWare/EA to permit them.  (Apparently that's all that's required, and Microsoft will do the rest of the work themselves.  If they are to be believed.)

 

So, EA/BioWare: tell us that you're giving Microsoft permission to make 2 & 3 available by backwards compatibility and it's all cool.  Otherwise, I shall be sad.



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At the end of the day, the desire for a remaster has as much to do with gameplay as with graphical updates. The reality is I happen to think that in many ways, ME2/ME3 look better than DA:I does. Part of this may be my general distaste with DA (I just didn't care for the first, gave up on the third, and really suffered hard to get through the second one), but I still think that Mass Effect is the "quintessential" BioWare experience.

 

The first ME had issues. It didn't look great in comparison to its two sequels, the Mako was nightmarish for being such an integral part of the exploration part of the game, and the nightmare of the different types of ammunition (an assertion I'm certain is going to be poorly received by shooter enthusiasts) almost made me give up on it.

 

It isn't to say ME 2and 3 didn't have their own issues. ME2, while a great game, only really hit its stride with Lair of the Shadow Broker (which was in large part a demo for the melee for ME3). Planet-scanning for resources was nightmarish, and towards the end of the game, if you weren't more assiduous about it throughout the playthrough, could really bring things to a grinding halt as you tried to quickly make up for lost time to acquire resources for upgrading the Normandy for its assault on the Collectors' base.  But it was otherwise a radical smoothing-out of all the things that were clunky in ME1, and I liked the characters: Garrus was truly badass once you found him, I liked Miranda, and Mordin was very, very cool. The only one who didn't really click with me was Jacob.

 

ME3 to me was the pinnacle of the trilogy. I know there were a lot of people who were unhappy with the ending; I wasn't one of them, and to this day maintain BioWare's response to the complaints should have been, "This was the ending you were given, if you don't like it, don't buy the next game." They chose to be more diplomatic, and the added content from the Director's Cut ending was appreciated, as was that DLC being free for as large as it was at the time. ME3 had its issues (like the face importing issue at release; I only did one subsequent playthrough, which was a trilogy playthrough with a male Commander Shepherd just so I could romance Ashley and Miranda instead of taking one of the relatively undesirable lesbian or bisexual options present in the trilogy; because of the face-importing issue, I didn't go through ME3 with the "real" version of my Femshep, but an approximation that I got as close to her ME1/2 appearance as I could), but in general it was still an absolutely phenomenal game.

 

We want a remaster because: 

 

1. Up until E3, we had no real reason to think that Xbox One would be backwards compatible (I'm surprised Sony hasn't done it, to be honest; their game library is already digitized, and all the XB1 "compatibility" is is a software emulator running on the OS), which locked away any 360 or PS3 copies of the trilogy;

 

2. The idea of possibly having all existing DLC in one place promised the "definitive" experience (one reason I dislike post-release DLC is because it breaks story immersion for me; I've already finished the story, so going back just to play a new mission that in theory took place before the end, particularly with an ending like Commander Shepherd got, feels jarring). I'd love to take care of all the stuff in ME3 before I go to the Citadel for the final time to deal with the Illusive Man and the Starchild and close out Shepherd's story. I'd like to not have to do another entire replay to maintain that story immersion.

 

3. The notion of a "seamless experience", where I don't have to load up a new game and import from the previous one, would be nice.

 

I realize those are all based on conjectures from questions Casey Hudson asked in the online poll (before he moved on from BioWare entirely), but all of that plus the possibility of 1080p just put icing on the cake. It would be THE definitive Mass Effect experience to get peoples' appetite prepped for Andromeda.

 

Sure, we could replay it all on PC, or wait til this Fall and play it on the 360 if we're console gamers... but for me, I've left PC gaming behind. I got my Xbox One, and found it's just nicer sitting in the living room on a giant television with a controller than it is in my bedroom with a 24-inch monitor and a PC that I have to update every two years either to maintain current-era gaming ability or just to replace worn-out parts. To me, as much as I love the years I put into being an exclusive PC gamer, the reality is the gaming industry is moving past PC games. The biggest titles now always come out on console as well, with full functionality (as a PS4 or XB1 is just a PC at this point with a dedicated graphics processor and tweaked OS). Go into Gamestop, and you might find a wire half-rack of poorly-organized PC titles, most of which are just going to send you to Steam, Origin or GOG to download the game anyway.

 

I have hopes BioWare might choose to do something the EA executive thought they shouldn't do, or that the might willingly let a porting studio handle this.  I CAN wait til this Fall and buy the 360 version of the ME trilogy, hope my existing DLC purchases from PC translate over to the console via an attachment to my Origin account, and call it good.

 

But I'd be willing to drop $60 on an experience customized for the Xbox One, with all the DLC, in shiny 1080p.

 

And I don't think I'm the only one.


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Very disappointed I would have bough a well made remaster in a heartbeat


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This is bullshit!!! The best trilogy of all time is not getting a remaster while other shitty games are. They could let another studio do this.

Agreed mate, the lamest games were remastered but not the ME Trilogy? screw this


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Bioware confirms that there will be no ME remastered trilogy. :(

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Guess I'll never be able to play Mass Effect 3 again.  :crying:



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A true major letdown for me :( 

I was really hoping for it to come to the ps4



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For me it's VERY disappointing.

I heard a rumour around March about ME Trilogy HD remaster being released in September this year... It was just a rumour but I was kinda hyped.

I looked forward to playing all games HD on my Xbox ONE...

 

Also, especially after I moved from PC where I had all DLCs bought... and they don't transfer to the console, which is a real crap. :/

 

Oh well... At least we get to experience and play it with Backwards Compatibility, especially being Preview member so we get to test it.

But, can't even import my old save because the "Bring down the sky" DLC is not available to XboxONE.



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Nothing is confirmed, except that a remaster isn't currently happening, but 2016 is way, way, way far, until then, anything can happen.

As for ME1, I almost proceeded with a playthrough on the XBOX One, but then I remembered there's no DLC yet, got me bummed, gotta stick with the 360 for now.

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I am a little disappointed for those that were looking forward to the chance of something like this happening, but I was always skeptical.  To me there was more then just money involved in this decision by how people would react to the new editions with a backlash in PR. I am always left wondering what some of the expectations of a remastered game is something that is making BioWare and/or EA nervous of even trying.



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I am always baffled to hear people complain about graphics on a good game. They could've released the games with the graphics of Knights of the Old Republic, and I wouldn't care, as long as they were still as fun to play

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They don't do this type of thing until like 15-20 years later. It was never going to happen anytime soon.
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Easy for me to say being a PC player, I guess, but yeah. 

 

You are right, that is easy for you to say.

 

Regardless. The original trilogy was made for the previous generation of consoles AND PCs, they could have made it just for the PC and sell a lot less BUT make it much prettier. That would have meant that only the newest PC owners would have been able to play the games.. but they could have done it.

 

That is always the problem. They compromise. With the previous generation they compromised on the consoles (which will always be the weakest link in the eternal struggle between the console peasants and the PC Master Race) which also meant that they took a dump on YOUR graphics. Luckily this suited me just fine because my laptop was not all that good and has not improved since. Not everyone can afford the best and consoles are relatively cheap and within reach of many.

 

Oh well.

 

Maybe after the next game is released

 

That actually makes sense, it would be great.

 

Aren´t you people a little tired of games that aren´t old and still look quite decent receiving remastered versions?

 

Come on...

 

A game from 15 or 20 years ago? All right.

 

 

Or maybe a situation in which one generation looks way better than the earlier, like the Super Mario Bros games being remastered in the Super Nintendo. Or the megaman nes games being remastered on the mega drive/genesis.

 

But do you people who play on consoles really want to play a remasted version? 

 

I think I can offer you a suggestion: Grab a gaming pc. The requirements for ME3 are very low nowadays. This game is from the beginning of 2012. 

 

There are many, many talented modders out there who produced some very interesting stuff. There´s even a big project that revamped most of the visuals in ME1, using 4k textures. I gave it a try, and it´s most impressive. The alliance uniforms now look just like in ME2 and 3. 

 

Just take a look at the mods available for all 3 games. And all the mods are free. 

 

You can wait until the trilogy is on sale (from time to time you can purchase it for a small amount). The only problem are the DLCs, since most of them need to be purchased separated. But since you people were willing to repurchase the series with console prices and love it so much in order to replay it, I guess money is not an issue.

 

Seriously, take a look, give it a try. It´not just juvenile perverted stuff like leaving the females naked. There are many excellent mods for faces, hair, weapons, armors, Anything you can imagine. If you ask kindly and you happen to have the good fortune of meeting a charitable modder, he or she may even take your suggestion for something that could be added. 

 

You can even toy around in ME2 and use the squad-mates from the second wave (legion, tali, thane, samara and morinth) in the first wave of missions. With some tweaks, you can even turn Liara into a permanent squad-mate in ME2 (as long as you have LOTSB). 

 

There´s a game within the game when you discover the wonders of the command console. Toying around with the variables can be a lot of fun, specially if you´´re curious, like to try discarded content, or if you´re in a hurry, want to experience the game from a pure story perspective (turning invincible and causing enormous damage) or is simply looking for a new way to enjoy the game after beating it 20 times. 

 

It´s a whole new universe with almost endless possibilities waiting for you. But only on PC. 

 

You don´t have to depend on Bioware, EA, Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft. 

 

While you people dream with a (at least for the time being) discarded remastered trilogy, on PC you could be experimenting a remastered trilogy (of sorts) at this very moment,

 

It´s totally within your reach. You just have to grasp it. 

 

The PC community will be happy to embrace you. 

 

Actually when you buy a PC you do very much depend on microsoft.. 

 

Not everyone can afford a sweet gaming pc. I can only speak for myself and say I have never had that kind of money lying around and saving would take me over a year. Nobody buys a gaming pc for old games, you wanna buy current games and want to be able to play games released later, too.

 

How would a remaster help super mario or pong? There is only so much that can be pimped and for a simple 2d game to remain that same simple 2d game, you do not have so many options. With games having become more complicated and sophisticated, remasters might do wonders for games that are old-ish but not really old. You just have to look at GTA5, 360 and ps3 first, got shiny and pretty for xbone and ps4 and a year later it got even more awesome for the pc!  That is what a remaster can do. If you hook up your NES to your gigantic tv (if you even can), the animations will just be much bigger. Would duck hunt be much improved if they changed those graphics? With the same amount of ducks? 

 

It is nice to see that there are lots of mods for the pc games, that is very interesting. Nekkid ladies in games never interested me much, they serve no point but to engorge the young gamers that can somehow not find porn on the internet. It is nice to see we agree on this :)

 

More? Hmm.. just that I am disappointed by the lack of a remaster. Perhaps in the future.



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The dude is walking on the hall of elitists with someone's else computer and call others peasants...

Every PC fanboy ever.

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Then can we get the terminus weapon and armor, the collector armor and the dr pepper items as dlc for mass effect 2