Why? Normal consumers don't preorder any other kind of product, so why preorder a game according to a few cherry-picked vertical slices are shown to the public and will probably be subject to cuts and changes?
Is there a problem with me preordering the game when it becomes available?
I'm not thrilled at the idea either but I'm willing to keep an open mind and be convinced to the contrary. I suggest you do too.
Personally, the things I like the most about Mass Effect are the overarching lore (before the events of the games threw a wrench in things), the species that populate the galaxy and their histories, and the aesthetic. And I was always super interested in discovering new species/planets/whatever.
I'm comfortable saying with 100% certainty that we're going to have krogan, asari, turians with us, no matter what. They're going to bring their history and culture with them, unless millennia on an "ark ship" or whatever changes it. They're going to fly around *a* galaxy finding cool stuff. And it's still going to look like Mass Effect (the aesthetic).
I'm happy. Happy and excited.
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I can't imagine what else you'd be attached to, in that case. ME2 and ME3 brought the whole thing crashing down. This is not a controversial position.
IMHO ME1 was by far the worst game of the series, mainly because of the horribad combat and the worse than horribad Mako. (In fact, these days I use the console to give myself maximum XP from the start so I don't have to explore to get it. I can't STAND driving around in that... gas filled mastodont). Story wise it was good, but survived more on atmosphere than actual story quality.
I list the games like this:
ME3 (including EC and Leviathan)
ME2
ME1
AS for what I am attached to I already listed it. The races, the worlds... I want to visit the Turians again, specifically. By far my favorite race. And again, Bioware has only shown us 3% of the Milky Way. And now we will never see the rest. 
Why? Normal consumers don't preorder any other kind of product, so why preorder a game according to a few cherry-picked vertical slices are shown to the public and will probably be subject to cuts and changes?
Because if someone's going to buy it the day it comes out, they might as well preorder it for a few small bonus goodies.
IAS for what I am attached to I already listed it. The races, the worlds... I want to visit the Turians again, specifically. By far my favorite race. And again, Bioware has only shown us 3% of the Milky Way. And now we will never see the rest.
I'd be very surprised if Turians aren't in MEA.
If the gameplay is good enough, I will pick it up as mindless entertainment, not for the story.
The main point, however is that this was one of the options I have 0% interesting in from a story perspective; I was one of those who considered the first rumors of this simple trolling, because it seemed so ridiculous to me. And then it turns out to be true....
Fair enough, but what if the story is really good? I think that there is a good reason that they have moved galaxies and it has a little to do with ME3. Had they delivered on the promise that we'd all get a unique conclusion, based upon our in game experience, then it would be just about impossible to do a sequel in any way shape or form. Even if you consider how much of the Milky Way is unexplored, we have to assume that all the surviving races of ME3 are the most advanced. You cannot create a race that went unnoticed by the Reapers that represent a threat or challenge to humans or any other species that was seen in the previous games. Whether they address the consequences of the ending is immaterial at this point. We know so little about the game, just that it allows for a lot more freedom than setting it in the Milky Way. Choices may or may not matter in this entry, but you have to keep an open mind until you know more.
Human masterrace, that's why.
Is there a problem with me preordering the game when it becomes available?
No problem with pre-order. The only time I did regret doing it was with DA2, which I detest, and consider completely wasted money.
I will most definitely pre-order Fallout 4. The only game in the foreseeable future I care about anymore (yes I am fully on the hype train!!!)
IMHO ME1 was by far the worst game of the series, mainly because of the horribad combat and the worse than horribad Mako. (In fact, these days I use the console to give myself maximum XP from the start so I don't have to explore to get it. I can't STAND driving around in that... gas filled mastodont). Story wise it was good, but survived more on atmosphere than actual story quality.
I list the games like this:
ME3 (including EC and Leviathan)
ME2
ME1
AS for what I am attached to I already listed it. The races, the worlds... I want to visit the Turians again, specifically. By far my favorite race. And again, Bioware has only shown us 3% of the Milky Way. And now we will never see the rest.
I completely agree with almost everything you've said here. I'm super excited because of that.
Turians, asari, krogan are all gonna be coming with us one way or another, I guarantee it.
Thans goodness you posted this! For the last several days I found so hard to sleep, eat and concentrate on things. I sat most of the day thinking "I wonder what Avilan II thinks about the new Andromeda setting? Does he likes it?" I was so desperate to know, but now that you have told us I can finally die in peace knowing what Avilan II thinks about the new setting.
*dies in peace*
Well you obviously liked the opposite of the things I liked. I liked the worlds, the races, the characters and the whole setting.
All of that is now gone. Period.
Or to put it another way... would you be interested in Episode VII if it was set in a different galaxy and none of the original characters will be around?
I lost interest in Star Wars VII when they said the old characters are returning and as far as the locations I don't care one way or the other for going to new locations means new information to learn about and if I want to keep rehashing all the old information I can just rewatch the old movies.
Well you obviously liked the opposite of the things I liked. I liked the worlds, the races, the characters and the whole setting.
All of that is now gone. Period.
Or to put it another way... would you be interested in Episode VII if it was set in a different galaxy and none of the original characters will be around?
I would have preferred we stayed within the milky way. They could have easily done it by just scrapping the synthesis ending and pushing the timeline 200 years later. The Yahg would be the main threat and we'd continue from there. But what can you do, im excited for Andromeda as long as they dont steer too much off the lore. DAI is guilty of this.
I can't imagine what else you'd be attached to, in that case. ME2 and ME3 brought the whole thing crashing down. This is not a controversial position.
In what way? I've regrettably spent probably 400+ hours in the Mass Effect universe and it sure as hell wasn't for Mark Meer's voice acting.
In what way? I've regrettably spent probably 400+ hours in the Mass Effect universe and it sure as hell wasn't for Mark Meer's voice acting.
Meer's VO is not that bad. I enjoyed it.
Meer's VO is not that bad. I enjoyed it.
It...improved. That's the way I'd put it. The way he delivered the last line of Citadel was great though.
There was no option for a story of the scale we saw in ME 1-3, if it would happen in Milky Way.
Reapers were the biggest threat - continuing the story arc of Milky Way would require involving the player with only some conflict between races, corporations or institutions - which would be really underwhelming, when you consider that in previous games you fought 2 km long superdreadnoughts of incomprehensible intelligence, trying to harvest all life, which were several million years old.
After Mass Effect 3 there are hardly any secrets in this galaxy worth knowing. Everything was controlled by the Reapers anyway, and they are either gone, or working for organics (or everyone is a green, organo-synthetic being, including the Reapers).
Rebooting the series and finding a new galaxy, with new secrets, new races and new lore was the only way to go if they were to continue the franchise.
Meer's VO is not that bad. I enjoyed it.
He got a lot better in ME3.
In what way? I've regrettably spent probably 400+ hours in the Mass Effect universe and it sure as hell wasn't for Mark Meer's voice acting.
Well, the brouhaha over the endings is not controversial, though my reasons are probably subjective. I didn't like the direction ME2 took (hated being railroaded into supporting Cerberus), and I wasn't a fan of most of the new companions (of which there were way way too many). I still played it (and ME1, which I lovelovelove in spite of the gameplay most of the time) several times.
ME3... I finished once. It put me off games in general for a good two months and I haven't played the series at all since whenever the last DLC was released (2 years ago now?). The way ME3 ended just made ME2 worse for me and cast a pall over the whole thing.
ME2 and ME3 were brilliant to actually play, though. And the story moment to moment and with the digressions off into companion quest land was usually fine. The big picture just kills me though.
It...improved. That's the way I'd put it. The way he delivered the last line of Citadel was great though.
For me it was great through and through.
While I would like to have a chance to revisit some old stomping grounds from the original trilogy. I'm more looking forward to seeing Bioware start afresh in a new galaxy. They proved to me with their imagining of the Milky Way in the original trilogy that they know how to design a compelling space environment and I don't have any reason to believe that they cannot do so again
I continue to be confused by these threads. Even if they hadn't left the Milky Way, how exactly did some expect all the characters we love be around for the next game as almost all of them can actually die during the first trilogy. As could by the way several of the races. And considering the Reapers were quite effective in wiping out all previous existing civilizations, I am not quite certain what we would expect to find in that remaining 97 % of the Milky Way. More vague remains of long lost civilizations?
Based on most of the things shown so far, I am assuming that the game will focus on the space arcs escaping the Reaper war to another galaxy. This would mean that probably most of the species would still be around, their culture would still be around while allowing for an organic and completely new approach to the game series since, again, the whole Milky Way was so affected by the events and choices of the Reaper War that I do not honestly see how they could have built a game in the same location without ignoring insane amounts of stuff.
Meer has been fine for ages. He was amazing in Overlord and his angry voice is way better than Hale's.
I'm the opposite. ME2 to a lesser degree, but ME3 to a LARGE degree made me want to get away from that galaxy ASAP. I think it's a great way to start a fresh.
ME1 reminded me of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century. I remember watching that show as a kid and somehow it really managed to caprture the feel of being thrust into the future. Mass Effect 1 did that loads. Those atmospheric, barren worlds were superb and full of wonder.
ME:A reminds me a bit of Buck Rogers 2nd series, where you're essentially a Space Cowboy exploring the unknown. It's a great, fresh starting point and - if done well - could really re-invigorate the series from the soulless dross it became.
I just hope, nay pray, that they concentrate on keeping the RPG elements strong and creating that real "Space Cowboy/Explorer" feel.
See ya.
What do you want to be (s)he'll be here on the same sort topic this time next week?
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