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MP is all drama. Anyone else thinks that Bioware should focus on the SP first?


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I didn't expect to like the MP in Mass Effect 3, so I gave it a wide berth until I got curious; then I got hooked.  To be fair, a lot of the > 1400 hours I spent in MEMP was because I met some good friends.  That said,

 

And I hope devs would not commit again the error to connect MP and SP again.

 

...seconded.


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There are separate teams, so there's no reason they can't work on both at the same time. I'm sure singleplayer will be the primary focus, though.

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I really don't like MP. And I hope devs would not commit again the error to connect MP and SP again. It was really a low blow in ME3.  <_<

You have to thank the MP for currying the SP. If you are referring to both modes during release, then yes, both were bland at best and grinding in MP was a problem. That is no longer the case, whatsoever. 



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You have to thank the MP for currying the SP. If you are referring to both modes during release, then yes, both were bland at best and grinding in MP was a problem. That is no longer the case, however. 

 

I don't know what are talking about. I have nothing to "thanks" MP for. I never got to play a Turian or a Quarian in SP. I never got to use swords or whips, or others cool weapons. Nor powerful fun abilities. Nor I had maps with climatic effects. I had banal scraps of lazy maps. That's all. -_-

And I was forced to play MP to get the "better" ending (that was just a few second clip with no sense).

No. I have nothing to thanks MP.


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Absolutely not. They should focus on MP exclusively, and only give SP what remains of the budget, if any.ù

 

I mean, it's been the opposite for one game and we've had no MP whatsoever for two: it's time to even out!


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mp in me3 was succesful because of the grat sp story that began in me1, if me had mp since me1, it wouldn't be that great

 

and yes, sp should be the priority


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Sadly Bioware has lately been trying to appeal to a wider audience with both DA:I and now ME:A so multiplayer will probably come up soon. But I do agree that the story and characters should be the main focus. After all that's why I like Mass Effect in the first place.


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DAI and ME3 were both single player first with a free secondary multiplayer mode. I've got no reason to suspect that MEA will be different.


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It's nice you guys believe that.

I'll add that ME3 and DAI MP both feed into SP because they're useful for trying out powers and classes you might not be sold on in SP.

The game's documentation should tell you everything there is to know about every ability in the game before you even create a character.

There should be no need to try things out.

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The game's documentation should tell you everything there is to know about every ability in the game before you even create a character.

There should be no need to try things out.

 

 

Documentation is a poor substitute for demonstration. There's simply no way for me to get a feel for the abilities in practice and which end up being my favorite. An example: archers in Origins sound fairly decent from the number of abilities available, but I utterly loathe them in combat. I find them more boring than listening to First Enchanter Irving recite an entire plumbing manual. 


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I didn't expect to enjoy ME3 MP... and I didn't. But the fact remains that it was highly successful with the player base as a whole and quite profitable indeed. It will absolutely be a vital element in creation of Andromeda, from the ground up, and there's really nothing that can be done about that, so we can merely hope the developers do a fine job with the single-player regardless.


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I would never buy MEA if SP only, MP only I would


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I really hope that they create a MP subforum soon....

 

See this is that elitist filth that is the reason SP is so much drama.

 

General Discussion should be all ours because we are SP gamers and I don't like MP.  Go put them in a corner and give me everything.

 

Once they put the MP gamers in their little corner then 100% of your time can be focused on trashing Bioware's decisions and the upcoming game.


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Give each equal love.  SP team and a MP team.


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See this is that elitist filth that is the reason SP is so much drama.

 

General Discussion should be all ours because we are SP gamers and I don't like MP.  Go put them in a corner and give me everything.

 

Once they put the MP gamers in their little corner then 100% of your time can be focused on trashing Bioware's decisions and the upcoming game.

 

Actually, I rarely trash BioWare's decisions. So, That's that. Secondly, The place for story and intellectual discussions shouldn't be the same place for multiplayer discussions as the two have different mentalities. And they both look for different things in a game.


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The game's documentation should tell you everything there is to know about every ability in the game before you even create a character.

There should be no need to try things out.

 

I don't think that's a feasible assessment given that the game's documentation does not inform you of every ability/resistance your opponent will have access to. Likewise with the PC's own weapons and armor. 



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Actually, I rarely trash BioWare's decisions. So, That's that. Secondly, The place for story and intellectual discussions shouldn't be the same place for multiplayer discussions as the two have different mentalities. And they both look for different things in a game.

 

I was wrong and I apologize for singling you out.  I should have changed the way I said that.  That doesn't change the fact that many people of the same mind as you do trash them constantly and act like I stated.   If you read over this forum and don't click on a thread about MP then you will see this over and over.

 

I am not aware of any thread about MP that does not state so in the title for those that do not wish to click it.

 

This is not the place for story and intellectual discussions.  This is General Discussion and you have no right to try to strong arm it to your will.  There will be a section called..."Story, campaign, and characters" Among many other divisions, but right now we have "General" general means "affecting or concerning all or most people, places, or things; widespread" and MP gamers fall into that and we are not here for war.  We want the best game as well.

 

I don't like Romance threads.  They are overdone.  People take them too seriously, and there is a new one every couple seconds it seems.  I don't click them.


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Documentation is a poor substitute for demonstration.

Then it's lousy documentation.

 

I'm looking for tabletop-quality mechanical descriptions.



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I don't think that's a feasible assessment given that the game's documentation does not inform you of every ability/resistance your opponent will have access to. Likewise with the PC's own weapons and armor. 

Again, I would describe that as inadequate documentation.

 

No combination of mechanical features should ever produce an undocumented result.



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On topic: I don't think Bioware ever focused on MP for any of their games.

Actually I'd rather they put more effort on MP to provide better online experience, ME3MP is a great achievement for Bioware, yet there are still lots of bugs unaddressed in ME3MP long after support ended (some ability evos not working as described, incendiary glitch, etc.), and even now DAIMP isn't a working product for many players.

Of course the SP will always be Bioware's priority (and I believe they SHOULD). Blame EA for mandatory online component, but as long as MP mode is included, they'd better make it good.


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Again, I would describe that as inadequate documentation.

 

No combination of mechanical features should ever produce an undocumented result.

 

In theory, it's possible. If they gave us every variable from Shepard's run speed, to his dodge animation, etc. Though I think for many people they'll have a bit more fun actively play-testing their character builds to see how they hold up instead of writing out the math as per a DnD rule book. 



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Then it's lousy documentation.

 

I'm looking for tabletop-quality mechanical descriptions.

 

Well, that depends. No amount of mechanical descriptions will really sell me on whether or not it's fun, because simply reading about the math of the abilities in a document rather than testing it out firsthand is, to me, flat-out boring, because I don't gravitate towards certain things simply based on numbers. Heck, I'll roll inferior armor just because I hate the way the "better" stuff looks.



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I was wrong and I apologize for singling you out.  I should have changed the way I said that.  That doesn't change the fact that many people of the same mind as you do trash them constantly and act like I stated.   If you read over this forum and don't click on a thread about MP then you will see this over and over.

 

I am not aware of any thread about MP that does not state so in the title for those that do not wish to click it.

 

This is not the place for story and intellectual discussions.  This is General Discussion and you have no right to try to strong arm it to your will.  There will be a section called..."Story, campaign, and characters" Among many other divisions, but right now we have "General" general means "affecting or concerning all or most people, places, or things; widespread" and MP gamers fall into that and we are not here for war.  We want the best game as well.

 

I don't like Romance threads.  They are overdone.  People take them too seriously, and there is a new one every couple seconds it seems.  I don't click them.

 

No problem. :) Anyways, I never said that "This" in specific is a place for story and intellectual discussions, I just said that the two shouldn't be mixed out. My snarky attitude was just a response to many MP fans who did the same thing on this thread, It was never meant to trash anyone.


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Bioware isn't gong to abandon SP, and focus solely on MP. That would be dumb. And it won't be the other way around because lets face it EA is EA. Bioware won't abandon their core SP audience, but they will give time to the MP crowd.


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Well, that depends. No amount of mechanical descriptions will really sell me on whether or not it's fun, because simply reading about the math of the abilities in a document rather than testing it out firsthand is, to me, flat-out boring, because I don't gravitate towards certain things simply based on numbers. Heck, I'll roll inferior armor just because I hate the way the "better" stuff looks.

Whereas, I despise learning by doing, and would much rather run all the numbers in advance.

 

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