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[AngryFrozenWater]

Neil deGrasse Tyson talks about the possibility of inter-galactic space travel.

 

He takes Andromeda as an example. How to get there with current technology and with Star Trek's "warp technology" (which is effectively a wormhole).

 

This gentleman is an astrophysicist and cosmologist. So he generally knows what he is talking about.

 

Kip Thorne, a theoretical physicist (specialized in gravitational physics and astrophysics), was the executive producer and scientific consultant of the SF movie Interstellar, in which humans traveled to a distant galaxy. The movie was inspired by his work. Neil deGrasse Tyson has also contributed to the movie. The following documentary shows the science behind that movie:

 

The Science Of Interstellar.

[LPPrince]

Han Shot First already mentioned intergalactic space, where in between galaxies stars are to be found. That may be important for "our" journey to Andromeda. Here's a short video about how these stars got there.

 

Intergalactic space may actually be full of stars.

 

 

Neil deGrasse Tyson talks about the possibility of inter-galactic space travel.

 

He takes Andromeda as an example. How to get there with current technology and with Star Trek's "warp technology" (which is effectively a wormhole).

 

This gentleman is an astrophysicist and cosmologist. So he generally knows what he is talking about.

 

[LPPrince]

A documentary on intergalactic space travel(since we'll be doing it to get to Andromeda, though keep in mind we're doing it in a fictional setting with fictional events having taken place instead of building off of where we are in reality)

 

[LPPrince]

Another documentary on the future of intergalactic space travel

 

[FlyingSquirrel]

Not likely. The Andromeda/Milky Way collision is to occur close to 4 billion years from now. Only way there's a plot to prevent it is if something in-game hastens it and it means doom for the Helios cluster.

 

They'd also probably have to take "space magic" to absurd extremes to create a situation where civilizations at the level we've seen in the MEU somehow have the power and know-how to prevent two *galaxies* from colliding.

 

Also, my understanding is that it's really going to be as much a merger as it is a collision - it won't wipe the two galaxies out or destroy all the solar systems. If we're talking in terms of the Mass Effect universe, it would be much more practical to relocate species that are likely to suffer any adverse effects than to try to invent a way to change the trajectory of an entire galaxy.

[LPPrince]

They'd also probably have to take "space magic" to absurd extremes to create a situation where civilizations at the level we've seen in the MEU somehow have the power and know-how to prevent two *galaxies* from colliding.

 

Also, my understanding is that it's really going to be as much a merger as it is a collision - it won't wipe the two galaxies out or destroy all the solar systems. If we're talking in terms of the Mass Effect universe, it would be much more practical to relocate species that are likely to suffer any adverse effects than to try to invent a way to change the trajectory of an entire galaxy.

 

Yeah, its more of a merging than an actual collision. Well things will certainly collide but not colossal solid objects anyway.

[LPPrince]

An article on what it would be like if alien life in Andromeda learned about us rather than the expected other way around

 

http://www.dailygala...e-on-earth.html

[LPPrince]

NASA announced they've found another Earth like planet out in The Milky Way, a cousin(if you will) of Earth's currently named Kepler 452-b that resides in the habitable life zone of its star(where liquid water could pool on its surface). Makes you wonder if there will be an Earth-like planet or more to settle in Andromeda.

 

http://www.nasa.gov/...cousin-to-earth

 

[MrFob]

Makes you wonder if there will be an Earth-like planet or more to settle in Andromeda.

 
I'd say, given that our methods for finding and analyzing exo-planets are still pretty crappy at the moment, given that we we only looked at a couple of thousand stars in our relative vicinity so far, given that we already found a really good candidate and given that Andromeda consists of even more stars than the Milky Way does, I'd say our chances are not too shabby.

[LPPrince]

 
I'd say, given that our methods for finding and analyzing exo-planets are still pretty crappy at the moment, given that we we only looked at a couple of thousand stars in our relative vicinity so far, given that we already found a really good candidate and given that Andromeda consists of even more stars than the Milky Way does, I'd say our chances are not too shabby.

 

Such potential for the new game to have top notch lore that hopefully lives up to the potential that exists in real life.

[LPPrince]

Remain hopeful. If it can happen here,

 

http://www.space.com...ml?cmpid=514648

 

[Arcian]

So given the next game in the Mass Effect franchise takes place in our neighboring galaxy of Andromeda, I figured we could talk about the real thing a bit.

 

-snip-

Dude I came here to be mad and complain about the game, not to read really interesting threads about our galaxy's biggest cosmic neighbour.

[LPPrince]

Dude I came here to be mad and complain about the game, not to read really interesting threads about our galaxy's biggest cosmic neighbour.

 

Sowwy(not sowwy) hahaha

 

Glad to have created a change of pace for folks.

[Dar'Nara]

Love whats goin on here, heck i can say i've learnt quite a bit! Thanks!

[LPPrince]

Love whats goin on here, heck i can say i've learnt quite a bit! Thanks!

 

We'll learn even more in 2016 when the Gaia space probe gives us information on around a billion stars in the Milky Way. A VERY small fraction of the total in our galaxy and of course nowhere close to our neighbor Andromeda, but it'll give us more to analyze and understand.

 

And thats freaking cool.

[Kabooooom]

You're welcome.

They are referring to the constellation Andromeda, not the Andromeda Galaxy.

We are nowhere near capable of detecting planets in other galaxies. We can barely detect them in our own, the ones we have are all very big and orbit relatively close stars.

Not true. Many terrestrial exoplanets have been found recently. Most are super Earths, but I wouldn't call these "very big", as they are very tiny compared to the typical "hot Jupiter" Pegasid worlds which were previously found in abundance not because they are abundant per se but because they are easier to detect. It is much harder to detect terrestrial worlds, but it has been done, and with the next gen telescopes they will become the norm.

It's also worth noting that literally just today a terrestrial exoplanet was discovered within the habitable zone of its G-type star.

EDIT: ninja'd by the OP, lol. He actually had the decency to link the article. Not me, too lazy.

[LPPrince]

Not true. Many terrestrial exoplanets have been found recently. Most are super Earths, but I wouldn't call these "very big", as they are very tiny compared to the typical "hot Jupiter" Pegasid worlds which were previously found in abundance not because they are abundant per se but because they are easier to detect. It is much harder to detect terrestrial worlds, but it has been done, and with the next gen telescopes they will become the norm.

It's also worth noting that literally just today a terrestrial exoplanet was discovered within the habitable zone of its G-type star.

 

And Gaia will help us learn more about around a thousand exoplanets next year.

[LPPrince]

EDIT: ninja'd by the OP, lol. He actually had the decency to link the article. Not me, too lazy.

 

AHAHAHAHAHA

 

*puffs chest triumphantly*

[Kabooooom]

And Gaia will help us learn more about around a thousand exoplanets next year.

The real deal will be when the James Webb Space Telescope is up and running. It has the power to directly image exoplanets AND spectroscopically examine their atmosphere. Including the presence of significant quantities of oxygen on terrestrial worlds in habitable zones. Which is mind blowing enough, but the very next step from that, which will be a rather small technological leap, will be to detect the telltale signals of photosynthetic pigments on exoplanets. Which is important, because our current understanding of the biology of it does not depend on a given planet - it is universally true - we can predict with certainty which spectra photosynthesizing life can absorb based on maxima of solar output wavelengths.

So eventually, this technology will literally allow us to detect alien life directly, from light years away, as evolution will cause some life to adapt to take advantage of solar energy no matter which planet that life emerges on. And probably within my lifetime too, this method will identify alien life, as by the time the tech is available we will have identified thousands of terrestrial exoplanets and prioritized them by which are most likely to have life. So people will already know where to focus the search.

We live in exciting times for astronomy.

[Kabooooom]

Also, this thread is good and you should feel good for making it.

In a sea of mindless "herp in Andromeda, derp?" and "I need x love interest to satisfy my virgin nerdgasm fantasy" and "Biower make a half eskimo half Nordic half bearpig preset plz" and "I hate x about Andromeda BC of y nerd reasons but I will still buy the game on day 1 because I am a hypocritical annoying douchebag" threads...this is one of the few shining examples of intelligent discussion in a sea of BSN idiocy.

[LPPrince]

The real deal will be when the James Webb Space Telescope is up and running. It has the power to directly image exoplanets AND spectroscopically examine their atmosphere. Including the presence of significant quantities of oxygen on terrestrial worlds in habitable zones. Which is mind blowing enough, but the very next step from that, which will be a rather small technological leap, will be to detect the telltale signals of photosynthetic pigments on exoplanets. Which is important, because our current understanding of the biology of it does not depend on a given planet - it is universally true - we can predict with certainty which spectra photosynthesizing life can absorb based on maxima of solar output wavelengths.

So eventually, this technology will literally allow us to detect alien life directly, from light years away, as evolution will cause some life to adapt to take advantage of solar energy no matter which planet that life emerges on. And probably within my lifetime too, this method will identify alien life, as by the time the tech is available we will have identified thousands of terrestrial exoplanets and prioritized them by which are most likely to have life. So people will already know where to focus the search.

We live in exciting times for astronomy.

 

Exciting times indeed!

[LPPrince]

Also, this thread is good and you should feel good for making it.

In a sea of mindless "herp in Andromeda, derp?" and "I need x love interest to satisfy my virgin nerdgasm fantasy" and "Biower make a half eskimo half Nordic half bearpig preset plz" and "I hate x about Andromeda BC of y nerd reasons but I will still buy the game on day 1 because I am a hypocritical annoying douchebag" threads...this is one of the few shining examples of intelligent discussion in a sea of BSN idiocy.

 

Alright alright, play nice.

 

And damn right I feel good for making it. I want to see more people discussing the subjects involved here so we can get some thought provoking opinions and ideas going for Andromeda not just in the real world but in-game as well. 

[Kabooooom]

Alright alright, play nice.

And damn right I feel good for making it. I want to see more people discussing the subjects involved here so we can get some thought provoking opinions and ideas going for Andromeda not just in the real world but in-game as well.

Meh, I've been on these forums for a long time. My patience with some of the more derpy of BSN denizens is inversely proportional to the number of posts they make that I see.

More on track, though - I feel that it is worth noting that the second infrared image of Andromeda you posted (the red image), is of particular interest as far as MEA is concerned .

A year ago, a number of us here (myself included) began hypothesizing that the next game would take place in Andromeda, based on several things that everyone knows by now but also a piece of concept art showing a new galaxy map. I was one of the first people to point out that the map appeared to be of a galaxy that was definitely NOT the Milky Way, and while it didn't exactly resemble Andromeda in visible light, it did very closely resemble a view of Andromeda in the infrared if it was viewed from above (which is a vantage point impossible to us here in the MW).

I posted that very same infrared image of Andromeda in that thread to demonstrate this similarity. In retrospect, I am like 99% certain that Bioware put that there as a subtle clue that the next game would take place in Andromeda.

[LPPrince]

Meh, I've been on these forums for a long time. My patience with some of the more derpy of BSN denizens is inversely proportional to the number of posts they make that I see.

More on track, though - I feel that it is worth noting that the second infrared image of Andromeda you posted (the red image), is of particular interest as far as MEA is concerned .

A year ago, a number of us here (myself included) began hypothesizing that the next game would take place in Andromeda, based on several things that everyone knows by now but also a piece of concept art showing a new galaxy map. I was one of the first people to point out that the map appeared to be of a galaxy that was definitely NOT the Milky Way, and while it didn't exactly resemble Andromeda in visible light, it did very closely resemble a view of Andromeda in the infrared if it was viewed from above (which is a vantage point impossible to us here in the MW).

I posted that very same infrared image of Andromeda in that thread to demonstrate this similarity. In retrospect, I am like 99% certain that Bioware put that there as a subtle clue that the next game would take place in Andromeda.

 

Hah! So many ways to show Andromeda through our current imaging processes, good thing we got that one.

[LPPrince]

This video made me realize that the phrase "Once in a Blue Moon" would not have any weight with races native to Andromeda. Makes me wonder what kind of phrases life native to that galaxy might have in its place.