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[LPPrince]

Got binoculars? You'll be able to find Andromeda and see it yourself.

 

[LPPrince]

NASA believes we're not far off from discovering alien life exists/existed elsewhere, and if it does/did in the Milky Way it very well could be/could have in Andromeda.

 

http://www.space.com...-2025-nasa.html

[LPPrince]

 

Hopefully with this next game that won't be an issue. It would be awesome if for example the game sent you to some lifeless frozen world, but off in the distance there was an active cryovolcano.

 

Besides interesting rock or ice formations, there is lots of cool and weird stuff in space that could make the barren worlds interesting.

 

How about an ice planet that burns, but the pressure is so strong that evaporation isn't allowed so ice and fire can live together?

 

Apparently this is already a thing for one planet in reality. Eh? Eh?

[shepskisaac]

Great thread. Love astronomy. 

 

That is one thing I'll really miss in ME though. With the previous games in the Milky Way, we were able to visit places we know, like certain stars or nebulae. In Andromeda, everything is going to be fictional.

Sans the Solar System all the planets were made up. Stars we can't land on hardly make a big difference between MW and Andromeda settings

[LPPrince]

Sans the Solar System all the planets were made up. Stars we can't land on hardly make a big difference between MW and Andromeda settings

 

I still want Pluto classified as a planet again.

 

Poor little guy.

[shepskisaac]

I still want Pluto classified as a planet again.

 

Poor little guy.

Well, at least New Horizons got launched before downgradeaton happened. We'll be getting HQ Pluto pics this month, just few weeks left to arrival after 9 year mission! http://www.nasa.gov/...main/index.html

[LPPrince]

Well, at least New Horizons got launched before downgradeaton happened. We'll be getting HQ Pluto pics this month, just few weeks left to arrival after 9 year mission! http://www.nasa.gov/...main/index.html

 

Hopefully Pluto will take its rightful place amongst its brethren again. And even more hopefully no Andromeda planets are downgraded once we get there. hahaha

[Oni Changas]

So given the next game in the Mass Effect franchise takes place in our neighboring galaxy of Andromeda, I figured we could talk about the real thing a bit.

 

 

Also known as M31, the galaxy is named after the Andromeda known to Greek mythology. Daughter of King Cepheus and his wife Cassiopeia, her mother's claim that she was more beautiful than the Nereids led Poseidon(inspired by Hades) to send a sea monster named Cetus to ravage Aethiopia(where she hailed from). Andromeda was stripped naked and chained to a rock to satiate the monster as a sacrifice but was saved by the hero Perseus, who she later married and had seven children with. Upon her death, Athena placed her among the stars.

 

Andromeda(pronunciation)-

 

And(And here we go again)

 

Ro(Raw, like the meat you didn't cook properly that Gordon Ramsay is gonna have a word with you about)

 

Me(Meshuggah)

 

Da(Da *expletive* is he explaining how to pronounce it for?)

 

is the nearest major galaxy to the Milky Way;the actual closest galaxy is Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy, also known as Canis Major Overdensity.

 

Andromeda is a spiral galaxy and happens to be the largest galaxy in the Local Group which contains The Milky Way and a few dozen other galaxies. The Milky Way is estimated to have something between 200 billion to 400 billion stars while Andromeda is estimated to contain around one trillion. 

 

Andromeda was formed something around 5 to 9 billion years ago upon the collision of two smaller galaxies. So happens that Andromeda and The Milky Way are expected to collide in less than 4 billion years, creating either a giant elliptical galaxy or large disk galaxy. The fate of Earth and our Solar System if this occurs is currently unknown.

 

Turns out there's a massive halo of hot gas surrounding Andromeda that is estimated to contain half the mass of all the stars in Andromeda itself. The halo is nearly invisible, stretches about a million light years away from Andromeda, and is halfway to our own Milky Way. Its halo ring includes dark matter.

 

The halo ring(yeah yeah, we know)-

 

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And now, for some more images.

 

Andromeda with a hydrogen-alpha filter

 

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With wide-field infrared

 

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Ultraviolet

 

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Another in infrared

 

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An image we have of Andromeda's core

 

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https://upload.wikim...alaxy_(M31).tif

 

An artist's concept of Andromeda's core, featuring young blue stars surrounding a supermassive black hole

 

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So, wondering what the extent of real information will be used for Andromeda? Expecting it to be entirely fantastical with no regard for actual facts? Do you have a preference? Hoping for anything in particular? Sound off.

Would you say this thread is a... Rational Gaze at the Andromeda galaxy? \M/

[LPPrince]

By the way, here's the high definition photo of a portion of Andromeda, taken by the Hubble telescope, that Han posted via video earlier. Click it to expand it properly.

 

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[LPPrince]

Would you say this thread is a... Rational Gaze at the Andromeda galaxy? \M/

 

I see what you did there. 

 

Trying to get some information out there on the real thing. Also, I think this is a great escape from the usual thread subjects that are more focused on in-game mechanics and features. This is meant to teach and create an understanding.

[DarthSliver]

Sans the Solar System all the planets were made up. Stars we can't land on hardly make a big difference between MW and Andromeda settings

 

You must've not heard then, North Korea has landed on the sun recently. It probably was a hot landing. 

[DarthSliver]

Hopefully Pluto will take its rightful place amongst its brethren again. And even more hopefully no Andromeda planets are downgraded once we get there. hahaha

unless you can extend your lifespan like in Jupiter's Ascending movie, I doubt you will have to worry too much about this lol. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Sans the Solar System all the planets were made up. Stars we can't land on hardly make a big difference between MW and Andromeda settings

The fact we went to actual places, like the Horsehead Nebula, made a big difference for me. 

[LPPrince]

unless you can extend your lifespan like in Jupiter's Ascending movie, I doubt you will have to worry too much about this lol. 

 

Hey, I'm looking out for future generations here.

[LPPrince]

The fact we went to actual places, like the Horsehead Nebula, made a big difference for me. 

 

Well, at least they didn't fabricate a whole new galaxy. They could've put us in one we supposedly just discovered and then had no link to reality.

[Undead Han]

One of the fan theories on the means to getting to the Andromeda galaxy is an ark making the long journey at FTL. The only obstacles to this method are that as of the start of Mass Effect 3, the Council species did not have a means travelling at FTL without needing to eventually drive discharge or refuel, two problems that the Reapers' had overcome. This has led to some speculation that perhaps during the course of Mass Effect 3 the Council races manage to reverse engineer Reaper or Collector tech that allows their ark to make the journey without needing to refuel or drive discharging, much like the Reapers.

 

But could an ark instead make the journey even if the Council species had not managed to duplicate some Reaper technology? The dark space between the Milky Way and Andromeda is in fact not entirely dark. There are stars and remnants of stars, and presumably orbiting planets as well, that have been ejected by either the Milky Way or Andromeda. Could an ark zig zag between those, using those intergalactic pit stops to drive discharge and skim fuel from gas clouds or gas giants? It would probably greatly lengthen the amount of time it takes to reach Andromeda, but that might also be why the next game is described as taking place long after the events of ME3.

 

 

Between Galaxies: Lonely Supernovae
By: Anne McGovern | June 10, 2015

 

Researchers confirm that three solitary stars have gone supernovae in intergalactic space.

 

The space between a cluster’s galaxies is not entirely empty — sometimes there are stars. These intracluster stars have been ejected from their host galaxies and left to drift alone in intergalactic space. Though they’re solitary, they’re still important for understanding how much mass the universe contains, and where that mass is.

 

But there’s a catch. Although it’s possible to make out a star in relatively nearby Andromeda Galaxy, it’s not so easy to see individual stars beyond our local universe. This is why astronomers have turned to supernovae, which are much brighter and easier to spot, to map normal matter between more distant galaxies.

 

Several years ago, researchers using the Canada France Hawaii Telescope (CFHT) conducted a survey of Type Ia supernovae in and near distant galaxy clusters. They discovered four of these exploding white dwarfs floating in the mostly empty space between galaxies, but back then, they couldn’t resolve the images clearly enough to confirm the explosions’ solitude. Now, using images from the Hubble Space Telescope, Melissa Graham (University of California, Berkeley) and colleagues have the evidence in hand.

 

Read the rest here

[Golden_Persona]

The absolute best part about going to a new galaxy is that Earth won't be the mery stue planet that it was in ME3. It will actually feel refreshing to play in a place where humans don't have much of a presence at all. Maybe the Andromeda races will bring the special humans down a few notches in the special department.

[LPPrince]

One of the fan theories on the means to getting to the Andromeda galaxy is an ark making the long journey at FTL. The only obstacles to this method are that as of the start of Mass Effect 3, the Council species did not have a means travelling at FTL without needing to eventually drive discharge or refuel, two problems that the Reapers' had overcome. This has led to some speculation that perhaps during the course of Mass Effect 3 the Council races manage to reverse engineer Reaper or Collector tech that allows their ark to make the journey without needing to refuel or drive discharging, much like the Reapers.

 

But could an ark instead make the journey even if the Council species had not managed to duplicate some Reaper technology? The dark space between the Milky Way and Andromeda is in fact not entirely dark. There are stars and remnants of stars, and presumably orbiting planets as well, that have been ejected by either the Milky Way or Andromeda. Could an ark zig zag between those, using those intergalactic pit stops to drive discharge and skim fuel from gas clouds or gas giants? It would probably greatly lengthen the amount of time it takes to reach Andromeda, but that might also be why the next game is described as taking place long after the events of ME3.

 

 

 

Read the rest here

 

I don't think we have enough information on the timeline the game follows and The Ark itself to know anything for certain, but hey, its a theory.

 

I mean, do we know for sure that the travel to Andromeda begins during the events of ME3 and not afterward? The Ark itself;whats it made of and how does it work?

[LPPrince]

The absolute best part about going to a new galaxy is that Earth won't be the mery stue planet that it was in ME3. It will actually feel refreshing to play in a place where humans don't have much of a presence at all. Maybe the Andromeda races will bring the special humans down a few notches in the special department.

 

I really want humanity to be treated as just being one of a number of equal races, no one being better than another or more special. Especially in a new galaxy where humanity isn't derived from that already has its own species.

 

Speaking of, I hope there's plenty of new races in Andromeda. Would be lame if there's only a few and we're predominantly interacting with those we already know from the Milky Way.

[Undead Han]

I don't think we have enough information on the timeline the game follows and The Ark itself to know anything for certain, but hey, its a theory.

 

I mean, do we know for sure that the travel to Andromeda begins during the events of ME3 and not afterward? The Ark itself;whats it made of and how does it work?

 

We don't know for sure, but the colonists departing the Milky Way prior to the endings of Mass Effect 3 is the best guess. The reason for that being assumed by many is that it is suspected the whole reason for this game being set in Andromeda is so the devs wouldn't have to address the diverging ending results of Mass Effect 3. If that is indeed the case, which IMO seems likely, having the colonists set out before the end of ME3 would make them make them unaffected by Shepard's end choice. Geth could still live for example, if they make it aboard the Ark, and no one would be turned into a green, glowy cyborg.

[LPPrince]

We don't know for sure, but the colonists departing the Milky Way prior to the endings of Mass Effect 3 is the best guess. The reason for that being assumed by many is that it is suspected the whole reason for this game being set in Andromeda is so the devs wouldn't have to address the diverging ending results of Mass Effect 3. If that is indeed the case, which IMO seems likely, having the colonists set out before the end of ME3 would make them make them unaffected by Shepard's end choice. Geth could still live for example, if they make it aboard the Ark, and no one would be turned into a green, glowy cyborg.

 

2.5 million light years is a looong way;would a geth unit in Andromeda still have intelligence of some sort? The rest of its kind would be in the Milky Way.

[Baekwan]

Nice thread! Really instructive ^^
I was really into astronomy when I was a kid, so much I wanted to become cosmonaut X)
Mass Effect rekindled my interest for astronomy.
Hope Andromeda would have plenty of captivating planets and cool lore.

[DaemionMoadrin]

When they say that both galaxies are going to collide in the far future, then they aren't talking about an orgy of destruction that annihilates both galaxies. As big as they are and as many stars they contain, they are still mostly made up with empty space. Entire star cluster can pass through each other with only minor influence on each other.

 

Nebulas aren't even visible up close because they are particle clouds that have spread out very far (hundreds of lightyears). They are less dense than a vacuum created on Earth. Don't let yourself be fooled by videos like the Citadel approach.

 

Black holes are a mathematical model, a theory. It is very likely they exist but so far we haven't found one yet. We assume there are one or several massive black holes in the center of the galaxy but so far we only found black hole candidates, not actual ones. Despite their depiction in popular media a black hole wouldn't be an invisible object that can only be detected by the bending light around it... it would be one of the brightest objects in space because about 40% of the matter it attracts would be transformed into energy/radiation, so the black hole would light up the entire spectrum.

 

Oh... and don't think space has all those cool colours the NASA photos show. Those were added later. All "photos" of space are black&white. That means the actual objects in space will look different. Most will be more drab (black, white, grey, brown), because NASA adds colours to highlight features, for example areas with different temperatures, which would not be visible to the human eye.

[LPPrince]

Nice thread! Really instructive ^^
I was really into astronomy when I was a kid, so much I wanted to become cosmonaut X)
Mass Effect rekindled my interest for astronomy.
Hope Andromeda would have plenty of captivating planets and cool lore.

 

Glad I could help! Hopefully the Andromeda team creates some really deep lore for the region. There's nothing to base it on so it could either be real awesome or a real letdown but I hope for the best.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well, at least they didn't fabricate a whole new galaxy. They could've put us in one we supposedly just discovered and then had no link to reality.

They may as well have, with how we know next to nothing about Andromeda. 

 

 

Glad I could help! Hopefully the Andromeda team creates some really deep lore for the region. There's nothing to base it on so it could either be real awesome or a real letdown but I hope for the best.

You should assume the worst. That way you won't be disappointed.