Who knows, there may be alien life there in reality and we just haven't found them yet.
Probably...though we may not have to go that far afield to find it. It may even exist elsewhere in our own solar system, though not the kind that would be pondering the nature of its existence or wondering whether it was alone.
Probably...though we may not have to go that far afield to find it. It may even exist elsewhere in our own solar system, though not the kind that would be pondering the nature of its existence or wondering whether it was alone.
Europa? If not in our solar system, Kepler 22b? Yeah, we definitely don't have to go Andromeda far to find life, assuming it exists.
Hell, Kepler 22b is what, 600 lightyears away? Thats a hell of a lot closer than 2.5 million. But who knows.
I'll agree to this. That'd be cool. I'd like all celestial bodies of note to have descriptions of history, purpose, and other such tidbits.
Milky Way view from Andromeda made me think of us seeing the RBG endings flickering off lol. Bad thought there and I know ME:A won't be touching the ME3 ending with a 10ft steel pole, but still the thought lol
Milky Way view from Andromeda made me think of us seeing the RBG endings flickering off lol. Bad thought there and I know ME:A won't be touching the ME3 ending with a 10ft steel pole, but still the thought lol
Impossible. Andromeda is 2.5 million lightyears away from The Milky Way. If we're in Andromeda, we're seeing The Milky Way of 2.5 million years past. In order for the events of the Mass Effect 3 endings to be seen from Andromeda we'd need to go forward in time 2.5 million years.
Impossible. Andromeda is 2.5 million lightyears away from The Milky Way. If we're in Andromeda, we're seeing The Milky Way of 2.5 million years past. In order for the events of the Mass Effect 3 endings to be seen from Andromeda we'd need to go forward in time 2.5 million years.
Well, to be fair the pulses went a lot faster than the speed of light, covering the galaxy in a few seconds rather than the 100,000 years it would take if it was traveling at light speed.
You mean astronomers named an entire galaxy after the next Mass Effect game?!?
Well, to be fair the pulses went a lot faster than the speed of light, covering the galaxy in a few seconds rather than the 100,000 years it would take if it was traveling at light speed.
Right, but light before the beams were activated was traveling at normal speed. The beams don't go off until 2186;in Andromeda it'd have to be the year 2,502,186 before the beams even began to light up the Milky Way.
Actually wait, no I've got that wrong. Hold on, do we know what speed the light from the beams was moving?
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You mean astronomers named an entire galaxy after the next Mass Effect game?!?
Sure.
Europa? If not in our solar system, Kepler 22b? Yeah, we definitely don't have to go Andromeda far to find life, assuming it exists.
Hell, Kepler 22b is what, 600 lightyears away? Thats a hell of a lot closer than 2.5 million. But who knows.
Europa is as good a candidate as any. On that note a couple of Jupiter and Saturn's moons are potential candidates for life. Titan would be the most interesting because instead of oceans of water it has lakes of ethane and methane. Any life there would be truly alien.
Europa is as good a candidate as any. On that note a couple of Jupiter and Saturn's moons are potential candidates for life. Titan would be the most interesting because instead of oceans of water it has lakes of ethane and methane. Any life there would be truly alien.
Do me a solid and look over my response to Hanako and tell me if I'm missing something.
As for ethane and methane life, oh man. That'd be...well, impossible to initially comprehend. We'd have to completely change the way we look for alien life.
Right, but light before the beams were activated was traveling at normal speed. The beams don't go off until 2186;in Andromeda it'd have to be the year 2,502,186 before the beams even began to light up the Milky Way.
Actually wait, no I've got that wrong. Hold on, do we know what speed the light from the beams was moving?
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Well, the scene of the galaxy being lit up is about 11 seconds long, so the light was going about 286,690,909,091 times the speed of light. So it would take about 279.18 seconds for Andromeda to see it. So the light from the endings would beat us by centuries unless we get to Andromeda instantaneously.
But then Bioware hasn't always been accurate on how fast something should go, like the Reaper Dreadnoughts falling to the ground in about 3 seconds when in reality it should take slightly over 20 seconds.
Well, the scene of the galaxy being lit up is about 11 seconds, so the light was going about 286,690,909,091 times the speed of light. So it would take about 279.18 seconds for Andromeda to see it. So the light from the endings would beat us by centuries unless we get to Andromeda instantaneously.
If it was going that fast, how did we even see it?
If it was going that fast, how did we even see it?
We were a long way away when watching that scene, so it appeared to be going slower. Just like how a plane seems to be going slow when you watch it on the ground but it is actually going a few hundred miles an hour.
But more likely, because it is a game.
But more likely, because it is a game.
Ahh, the cutoff between reality and convenience. Yeah.
That's actually real?
Not the brighteness (assuming you're viewing it with a naked eye). The scale? Yes, that's how big it really is despite being 2.5+ million light years away
Europa?
+ Enceladus, Ganymede. Even Pluto could have subsurface ocean.
Not the brighteness (assuming you're viewing it with a naked eye). The scale? Yes, that's how big it really is despite being 2.5+ million light years away
+ Enceladus, Ganymede. Even Pluto could have subsurface ocean.
Images of Pluto will be coming in soon. We'll learn more in July. *excited*
Assuming Andromeda's dark matter comes into play just as dark matter in The Milky Way did thru ME1-ME3,
NASA is currently live streaming, with a discussion about what its like over on the ISS with photos and videos to watch
http://www.nasa.gov/...satv/index.html
Will give you an appreciation for space travel and might give you new things to think about regarding your characters
I just hope NASA releases HQ pics of Pluto fast, tired of looking at potato shots
I just hope NASA releases HQ pics of Pluto fast, tired of looking at potato shots
And then we wait for images further out.
Let's not forget that a new galaxy makes everything new for everybody. Especially if the Reapers "did" get to the Andromeda galaxy and cleansed it prior to our arrival. (And I really hope this is the case. Finding that the Reapers are actually imperfect at their task... and don't really wipe out the races that compose the civilizations they destroy would be, for me... far FAR more realistic. So sure, bring on the post-apocalyptic survivors of the Andromedian cleansing.)
That means there'll be very little left to explain... and the story is truly forging its own path instead of working in the parameters of some intricate network.
If there's a history behind the new human colony... I'd like to be the one to forge a bit of it, be witness to the rest of it, and when someone says (in ME 5): "Do you remember when X happened." I can say... "Yes, I was there." Not... "Explain that bit of fictional history to me even though my character really SHOULD know it... being an indigenous aspect of this galaxy unlike the player controlling me."
Do we need Reapers to have been in Andromeda? I still maintain its a Milky Way issue that shouldn't make it to any other galaxy.
If you're wondering where other galaxies are besides The Milky Way and Andromeda,
Right, but light before the beams were activated was traveling at normal speed. The beams don't go off until 2186;in Andromeda it'd have to be the year 2,502,186 before the beams even began to light up the Milky Way.
Actually wait, no I've got that wrong. Hold on, do we know what speed the light from the beams was moving?
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This is always the problem with thinking too hard about FTL - because it violates relativity you're gonna run into paradoxes. For instance you can always find an inertial frame of reference where the order of events is reversed (i.e. if i leave earth and travel to the citadel at FTL, someone else will see me arrive before i've left). Then you have to deal with time travel as well.
As for the beams, they're not only crossing the galaxy at FTL speeds, but also exploding at each relay at FTL speeds, so they're clearly not made of ordinary "light", which then begs the question of how we can see them, since our eyes can only detect photons. Only explanation I've got here is that the Space Magic Radiation interacts with the normal matter in the galaxy (e.g. ISM) and causes it to light up in RBG (literally, pick one), which we can then see. This means that in order to see all the explosions at once, as happens in the cutscene, the camera must be positioned at the same distance from all of them (e.g. directly above the center of the milky way), although even then there would be major time differences since not all relays are the same distance from the center. So again.. space magic. And yes, the light from the explosions wouldn't reach Andromeda for 2+Myr, so if we arrive via FTL before then and tell the Andromedans about how our galaxy is fucked and the Reapers are everywhere, they'll just be like 'wtf you on about mate'.
This is always the problem with thinking too hard about FTL - because it violates relativity you're gonna run into paradoxes. For instance you can always find an inertial frame of reference where the order of events is reversed (i.e. if i leave earth and travel to the citadel at FTL, someone else will see me arrive before i've left). Then you have to deal with time travel as well.
As for the beams, they're not only crossing the galaxy at FTL speeds, but also exploding at each relay at FTL speeds, so they're clearly not made of ordinary "light", which then begs the question of how we can see them, since our eyes can only detect photons. Only explanation I've got here is that the Space Magic Radiation interacts with the normal matter in the galaxy (e.g. ISM) and causes it to light up in RBG (literally, pick one), which we can then see. This means that in order to see all the explosions at once, as happens in the cutscene, the camera must be positioned at the same distance from all of them (e.g. directly above the center of the milky way), although even then there would be major time differences since not all relays are the same distance from the center. So again.. space magic. And yes, the light from the explosions wouldn't reach Andromeda for 2+Myr, so if we arrive via FTL before then and tell the Andromedans about how our galaxy is fucked and the Reapers are everywhere, they'll just be like 'wtf you on about mate'.
Thanks. I went mental there trying to figure out if I was right or off base.
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