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[Avilan II]

...Wouldn't there be at least one civilization that is about 1000000 years more advanced than the humans coming to visit?

 

Alternatively, would´t AIs have conquered and killed everything?

 

Just going by the ME lore, here...

[CrutchCricket]

...Wouldn't there be at least one civilization that is about 1000000 years more advanced than the humans coming to visit?

Not necessarily. The circumstances for life arising are not as widespread as these games would have you believe. And civilizations can fall on their own just fine without giant robot cuttlefish there to assist them.
 

Alternatively, would´t AIs have conquered and killed everything?

No, because that's dumb.

[Avilan II]

Not necessarily. The circumstances for life arising are not as widespread as these games would have you believe. And civilizations can fall on their own just fine without giant robot cuttlefish there to assist them.
 

No, because that's dumb.

 

Not being 100% serious, but on the other hand... using iRL logic is not good either. Your arguments are based on IRL logic, not well... the ME trilogy... 

[The Elder King]

Not necessarily. Species rise and fall .
Plus, that's assuming the Catalyst was correct in its assumption.

I guess, howewer, that If They focus on one region of Andromeda instead the while galaxy they might leave themselves room to write different advanced species in the galaxy without mentioning them.

[In Exile]

...Wouldn't there be at least one civilization that is about 1000000 years more advanced than the humans coming to visit?

Alternatively, would´t AIs have conquered and killed everything?

Just going by the ME lore, here...

Well, the AI thing is just complete nonsense and I think Bioware now understands that bit. Which is why they went with insane AI in the end.

Beyond that, no. Look at planet Earth. It's got a few hundred million years of life uninterrupted. Where did that get it?

[Avilan II]

Well, the AI thing is just complete nonsense and I think Bioware now understands that bit. Which is why they went with insane AI in the end.

Beyond that, no. Look at planet Earth. It's got a few hundred million years of life uninterrupted. Where did that get it?

 

Hey in the ME setting there is an apex race that was fully civilized and had FTL travel millions of years ago. IF they hadn´t been harvested they would have continued to advance.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Was it confirmed the Reapers never went to Andromeda? 

[dreamgazer]

...Wouldn't there be at least one civilization that is about 1000000 years more advanced than the humans coming to visit?

Incredibly likely. Unchecked physical and technological evolution will be a massive hurdle for ME: Andromeda.
 

Alternatively, would´t AIs have conquered and killed everything?

Depends on how smart Andromeda's folks were with programming Asimov's Laws of Robotics into their creations, or whether the Reapers visited Andromeda in the past. 

[aerisblight]

didnt Liara say it would take several hundred years to wipe out all advanced life? Maybe the reapers didnt visit Andromeda yet.

[The Elder King]

Was it confirmed the Reapers never went to Andromeda?

Not so far.

[alienatedflea]

...Wouldn't there be at least one civilization that is about 1000000 years more advanced than the humans coming to visit?

 

Alternatively, would´t AIs have conquered and killed everything?

 

Just going by the ME lore, here...

Well civilizations do have a life span, too.  A general rise and fall which in turn a new civilization emerges.  Civilizations usually do not stay stagnant for a very long time and they usually die by their own doings like the Leviathans.  

 

There is nothing to suggest but what if there was a splinter group of reapers that didn't want to continue the cycle.  Maybe Reapers had an infighting.  I mean clearly I think the only possible civilization that could remain stagnant are robotic/Non organic civilizations.

[NM_Che56]

...Wouldn't there be at least one civilization that is about 1000000 years more advanced than the humans coming to visit?

 

Alternatively, would´t AIs have conquered and killed everything?

 

Just going by the ME lore, here...

What lore? I am not aware of any lore as it relates to Andromeda. 

[NM_Che56]

Was it confirmed the Reapers never went to Andromeda? 

 

 

Honestly, I can't think of any mention of Andromeda in the whole game so the answer would be "no" by default.  Which means you really can't rule it out.

[Avilan II]

Was it confirmed the Reapers never went to Andromeda? 

The Reapers was a "local"* phenomenon. So was the blue, green and red endings. Remember that, the green fusion of stupid and ridiculous only happened in the Milky Way. Nowhere else in the other 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the universe.

*http://tvtropes.org/...eNoSenseOfScale

[rashie]

Honestly, I think that's what their banking on, new civilizations that are either hostile or friendly provides a wealth of opportunities for new storylines beyond just the "exploration" theme, now that the galactic genocide plotline is out of the way.

[Stakrin]

Just to get it out there:

The reapers exist to preserve life, not not from AI, but from each other. Eventfully empires fall and species go extinct. Reapers think they are a good method of preserving them eternally until Shepard proved people will do anything to get rid of them.

Andromeda may give us some insight as to what happens without reapers, and it may also suck. Species that people completely forget about, a new ai that conquered it's planet, and an ancient race who can rule it's system with an iron fist.

[Avilan II]

...Of course maybe Andromeda was (relatively) recently saved from a vicious cycle with big hulking robots called "Harvesters"... And a purple explosion took them out.

[CrutchCricket]

...Of course maybe Andromeda was (relatively) recently saved from a vicious cycle with big hulking robots called "Harvesters"... And a purple explosion took them out.

Bullshit! Someone I know named "CatchCrocket" clearly chose the yellow explosion.

[Guanxii]

It's not a stupid question, I had the same thought myself about a month or so ago. The Prothean AI in ME3 postulates that the Reapers are merely servants of a pattern, not it's true master. The pattern is essentially nature given form and to understand it requires a full understanding of natural laws of the universe. It repeats infinitely in one form or another wherever the is life with or without the Reapers. Reapers merely fine tune the pattern for optimal efficiently (every 50k years). 

 

I suspect any sufficiently advanced species analogous to the Leviathans will have sowed the seeds of their own demise and fallen victim to the pattern hundreds of millennia ago and what remains will be of similar socio-technological advancement to ourselves. Any life sufficiently more advanced than ourselves will likely be synthetic unless the Reapers or equivalent existed in Andromeda to serve the pattern and preserve life another way.

[camphor]

...Wouldn't there be at least one civilization that is about 1000000 years more advanced than the humans coming to visit?

 

Alternatively, would´t AIs have conquered and killed everything?

 

Just going by the ME lore, here...

possibly my guess would be that any that old would either be peaceful or would have wiped themselves out in there own war, or maybe the natural order simply has life force themselves into a new form (4th 5th 6th dimentional who would have 0 reason to mettle in our affairs like man has no use messing with each individual partical of nitrogen) maybe sythetics did wipe everything out but then realised they had no reason for exsistance, maybe the wars between synthetics and organics caused multiiple galactic extinction events i mean theres a ton of possibilities

 

also if the reapers did go to andromeda i would bet anything they immediately had there ass (tentacle?) handed to them by the remenant because thats the way story structure works

[azarhal]

...Of course maybe Andromeda was (relatively) recently saved from a vicious cycle with big hulking robots called "Harvesters"... And a purple explosion took them out.

 

Not Harvesters, Berserkers...although, that might be copyright infringement.

[OhNoWhyHow]

Well, it's entirely possible that the Milky Way races were unusually interconnected and advanced because the Reapers left all this tech laying around for them to use.  It would be a lot harder to create something like the entire relay system from scratch.  I think the squid race that created the Spacebrat were in the top 1% (or even higher - maybe more like .001%) or so of intellectual capacity of most sapient races.  It's entirely possible that Andromeda never developed any species that was close to that level. 

[jstme]

A)...Wouldn't there be at least one civilization that is about 1000000 years more advanced than the humans coming to visit?

 

B Alternatively, would´t AIs have conquered and killed everything?

 

Just going by the ME lore, here...

 

A) Sure there would be,maybe not even one. But the difference in habitat and resources needed,in culture and in development goals that 1000000(....) years of technological advancement will give assures that you will not knowingly encounter those. Just try to imagine Humanity (that managed not to wipe itself of course which is not granted) in a million years.... It will be totally different form of existance.

B No. Because it is both illogical and impossible. ME lore post ME3 ...is not the sharpest knife in a draw,so to speak. 

[OhNoWhyHow]

It's not a stupid question, I had the same thought myself about a month or so ago. The Prothean AI in ME3 postulates that the Reapers are merely servants of a pattern, not it's true master. The pattern is essentially nature given form and to understand it requires a full understanding of natural laws of the universe. It repeats infinitely in one form or another wherever the is life with or without the Reapers. Reapers merely fine tune the pattern for optimal efficiently (every 50k years). 

 

I think he was talking about the Catalyst AI.  He had inferred the presence of an intelligence - a puller of strings behind the pattern.  I think that he was saying that this particular pattern (Reaper harvests) implied the presence of a puppet master.  I don't necessarily think he was referring to some higher "cosmic imperative."

[Saul Iscariot]

What is this talk of Harvesters? I will have you know they do a fine roast dinner, though as it is help yourself it is far too easy to over indulge.