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[DextroDNA]

So the title is slightly misleading - I think we all know the Reaper threat won't be returning in this new game, their story was done in the original trilogy. BUT... that doesn't mean that they might not feature in some way in ME:A.

 

I'm basing this all around the one part in the E3 trailer when we heard the signature Reaper "gurgling" noises. Bioware knows we'd associate these sounds with the Reapers, so they wouldn't use them for anything else unless they wanted to just throw us off with that part of the trailer. But those sounds are definitely Reaper sounds - which leads me to think the Reapers, or more specifically their legacy, may be involved in the plot of ME:A.

 

There may be absolutely no Reapers in ME:A at all, but who knows if at some point some Reapers travelled to Andromeda for a scouting mission - similar to what we're likely doing in this game. Their legacy may remain in Andromeda, they may even have built Mass Relays there to try and set up an extinction cycle like they did in the Milky Way.

 

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure one of the earliest leaks that involved the question "What does N7 mean to you" made reference to 2 new races, one if which was described as a Reaper-like golem. These could be one of our new enemies and a legacy of the Reapers. If that leak was true, then I think it would be cool if we found one remaining Reaper in Andromeda, almost dead, who became our squadmate by transferring itself into one of these golems. I dunno, I think that would be cool, but that's kinda irrelevant to the post.

 

Anyway, what are your thoughts on the Reaper's legacy affecting Andromeda?

[N7Jamaican]

It did sound like a reaper.  Or it could have been just a random sound effect that just so happens resemble reaper.  Regardless, there are theories that the reapers went to Andromeda and did the cycle their as well.  I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if BioWare went with this.

 

However, I believe we will have a new threat that outshines the reapers.

[DextroDNA]

It did sound like a reaper.  Or it could have been just a random sound effect that just so happens resemble reaper.  Regardless, there are theories that the reapers went to Andromeda and did the cycle their as well.  I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if BioWare went with this.

 

However, I believe we will have a new threat that outshines the reapers.

I don't think they'd choose to put a random sound effect that sounds like a Reaper in the trailer, they know we'd associate it with the Reapers - so they must have done it purposely.

[MorriganFate]

Good god. If they bring the reapers into this I have no doubt there will be riots. We had the reapers for what? Seven years? More if you still play their games. Good Riddance. Let them be gone for good. If I hear a peep about anything even remotely reaperesque, I will not buy this game as much as I might want to. Nope. Reapers = run like hell in the other direction.

 

It might just be lazy sound effects. It's cheap to just take a sound and manipulate it. Hell, dragon's dogma was so cheap that they take about two base voices per gender and change the pitch so you have something like six or twelve.

[DextroDNA]

Good god. If they bring the reapers into this I have no doubt there will be riots. We had the reapers for what? Seven years? More if you still play their games. Good Riddance. Let them be gone for good. If I hear a peep about anything even remotely reaperesque, I will not buy this game as much as I might want to. Nope. Reapers = run like hell in the other direction.

 

It might just be lazy sound effects. It's cheap to just take a sound and manipulate it. Hell, dragon's dogma was so cheap that they take about two base voices per gender and change the pitch so you have something like six or twelve.

I doubt it's just laziness, people identify those sounds with the Reapers so they wouldn't have put them in unless they meant something. But I agree somewhat, I don't want the Reapers to be a major focus or to feature too heavily, but having the remnants of their legacy play a small part in events could be interesting. They just need to do it right.

[Spacepunk01]

However, I believe we will have a new threat that outshines the reapers.

 

That would be a big mistake. The Reapers treat galaxies like crop fields. They have designed, indoctrinated and "guided" organic civilizations for millions of years. They are the equivalent of a Type III Civilization. I don't know how something is suppose to outshine a galactic threat of that magnitude.

 

We don't need something extraordinary. We need something ordinary, something we can relate to. Planetary and/or Interplanetary conflicts are more than enough.

[DextroDNA]

That would be a big mistake. The Reapers treat galaxies like crop fields. They have designed, indoctrinated and "guided" organic civilizations for millions of years. They are the equivalent of a Type III Civilization. I don't know how something is suppose to outshine a galactic threat of that magnitude.

 

We don't need something extraordinary. We need something ordinary, something we can relate to. Planetary and/or Interplanetary conflicts are more than enough.

It could still be something extraordinary, just not something as massive as the Reapers

[GnusmasTHX]

I don't identify those sounds with Reapers, it all sounds like sci-fi dubsteppy garbage to me, like in Transformers or Man of Steel or what have you...

 

And yeah, Reapers are boring.

[UKStory135]

Considering that they only come to the Milky Way every 50,000 years and it would only take them 230 to get to Andromeda Galaxy, having some reapers there isn't as crazy as many think.

[The Night Haunter]

Personally I think the Andromeda story will start with the refugees from the Milky Way fleeing the Reapers. Probably the remnants of one of the human fleets that we (Shepard/Anderson/Citadel) lost contact with decides to retreat instead of fighting, picking up as many survivors as they can as they flee to the edge of the galaxy then begin the long journey to Andromeda. Potentially with aliens (Krogan we know of, maybe others) tagging along for the ride, or simply having the same idea and fleeing concurrently yet separately.

 

This would provide an awesome Battlestar Galactica / Oregon Trail / Homeworld feel to the game, that pretty much every scifi fan loves (who doesn't like at least one of the iterations of BSG?). It also provides a clean slate for Bioware to reinvent the ME franchise. Most importantly it expands ME to something beyond Shepard's Story.

 

As such I think the Reapers will play a very important role in the game, at least from a psychological perspective. This fragment of humanity literally fled the galaxy to escape the Reapers, so their culture and psyche will no doubt have an impact from that, but I doubt we will see an actual Reaper. It was highly hinted that Reapers just sat outside the galaxy conserving power and doing nothing while waiting for the next event rather than trying to go from galaxy to galaxy exterminating all intelligent advanced life everywhere.

 

It is possible some technology may tie in to the Milky Way galaxy (after all, Humans can't have been the first species with the bright idea of running away rather than fighting and dieing kinda pointlessly). Maybe we will meet more Protheans.

[CrutchCricket]

I don't identify those sounds with Reapers, it all sounds like sci-fi dubsteppy garbage to me, like in Transformers or Man of Steel or what have you...

Exactly. Before they were "Reaper sounds" they were Transformers sounds, Terminator: Salvation sounds, Man of Steel sounds etc. In fact you can thank Transformers for making all sci-fi machines after 2007 have that digital stuttering sound like you can thank Inception for everything having BWONNG! horns (including Reapers). And inception can thank the 2004 War of the Worlds for its BWONG.

 

Sounds get changed and recycled. It means nothing.

[DextroDNA]

Exactly. Before they were "Reaper sounds" they were Transformers sounds, Terminator: Salvation sounds, Man of Steel sounds etc. In fact you can thank Transformers for making all sci-fi machines after 2007 have that digital stuttering sound like you can thank Inception for everything having BWONNG! horns (including Reapers). And inception can thank the 2004 War of the Worlds for its BWONG.

 

Sounds get changed and recycled. It means nothing.

And in the Mass Effect Universe, they're distinct Reaper sounds. They're not going to recycle one of the most iconic sound tied to their most iconic bad guys are they?

[N7Jamaican]

The reaper sound originated from a garbage can lid being opened and closed.  

[Broganisity]

Leviathans in Andromeda...?

[N7Jamaican]

If BioWare made the origins of the reapers a mystery and didn't do a crappy DLC -- this ME:A could have been an awesome way to tie into the reapers IF the reapers are in ME:A.

[CrutchCricket]

And in the Mass Effect Universe, they're distinct Reaper sounds. They're not going to recycle one of the most iconic sound tied to their most iconic bad guys are they?

Yes they are. This is a trailer, meant to get our attention, or more specifically the attention of new potential players. I won't go so far as to say sounds like these are expected. But people are used to them.

 

I didn't even think of Reapers when I heard them and I've been playing for four years. I saw changing (transforming, if you will) futuristic machinery, I heard that sound I thought "yep, that's right, that's what that sounds like." Because that's what all futuristic configuring machines sound like these days.

[Absafraginlootly]

The robot fart of doom can be heard in pretty much every dramatic trailer since inception so I don't think we can assume it means reapers.

[AsheraII]

I'd find it odd if there were no Reapers. They were able to go outside our galaxy and hide in dark space, so why, with all the time they had, couldn't they send scouts to other nearby galaxies?

[WittyUsername]

The only problem I have with the Reapers reaping the Andromeda Galaxy is their method of attack has been using the Citadel as a surprise attack relay to wipe out the governments of the galaxy.

So unless they built a Citadel there, I'm not sure. I'm also not sure if Catalyst needs to be part of the Citadel for any particular reason.

[guntar74]

Only way i want to see a reaper in the new games, is if it is secretly the ship that takes us out of the milky way to avoid the harvest, rogue reaper could be kinda interesting. But ya i def don't want to see them as bad guys again

[Dunmer of Redoran]

They might as well make it a Reaper. Bury Shepard even more by explaining that Shepard didn't actually vanquish the Reaper threat.

 

 

 

And then we'll find out Shepard's not even a real N7 and stole the ID from some guy who's been dead for a bajillion years. But the new N7 is a better N7 and can N7 better than Shepard ever could! WHAT A HERO

[DextroDNA]

Yes they are. This is a trailer, meant to get our attention, or more specifically the attention of new potential players. I won't go so far as to say sounds like these are expected. But people are used to them.

 

I didn't even think of Reapers when I heard them and I've been playing for four years. I saw changing (transforming, if you will) futuristic machinery, I heard that sound I thought "yep, that's right, that's what that sounds like." Because that's what all futuristic configuring machines sound like these days.

If you didn't instantly recognise that noise as the Reaper sounds, then you can't be much of an ME fan. The transforming towers weren't even showing when the sounds played, they played as the guy was looking out over the cliff.

[DextroDNA]

The robot fart of doom can be heard in pretty much every dramatic trailer since inception so I don't think we can assume it means reapers.

It wasn't the robot fart of doom though, it was the weird gurgling noises the Reapers make before they fire their lasorz.

[guntar74]

If you didn't instantly recognise that noise as the Reaper sounds, then you can't be much of an ME fan. The transforming towers weren't even showing when the sounds played, they played as the guy was looking out over the cliff.

 

Honestly it actually sounds more like some of Mass Effect 1's geth sound effects to me...

[Linkenski]

There would be so many things wrong with reusing the Reapers as an enemy force, even if they're just on the periphery for this Andromedan adventure. One of the major concerns you saw with the fanbase for the trilogy was that the Reaper threat was simply too huge and proplematic for BIoware to handle with graceful writing and bringing them back in, not only after we closed off that entire story, would be insanely cheap and a disservice to the trilogy story.