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#101
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Why would one Reaper that had nothing to do with the story negatively affect the game? You just seem really prejudiced against anything from the original games

 

Not without cause.

 

One reaper wouldn't be bad, maybe. I hope it's a cuttlefish reaper, if so. The baby terminator reaper has me convinced that there's no way any other reaper wouldn't be completely stupid.



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The "inception horn" is the sound the Reapers make when they're firing their laser, that's not even the sound I'm talking about - it's not in the trailer.

 

The digitized stuttering is used in other franchises, but you seem to fail to realise that in THIS franchise it is a sound used by the geth and the Reapers. In Mass Effect, that's who we associate the sounds with. So Bioware, obviously knowing that, wouldn't just throw the sound we associate with the geth and Reapers into the trailer for no good reason.

 

I seriously doubt they're so lazy that they're going to reuse the sound assets for old bad guys for their new bad guys.



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Dude, it pretty much it is. Comparison.

Firstly, I am not saying it isn't.  It very well could be.  It could just as easily not be.  Reusing assets is far from unheard of in games.  They could be reusing it to show there is some other reaper stuff happening, or they could just be reusing it for so many other reasons that border from simple oversight to something just being reaper tech without it actually being a reaper.  

 

Hard to tell but it's worth discussion :)

 

My guess, there will be some tie ins with the previous games concerning reapers but likely nothing to substantial.  I mean it's hard to have a giant galactic war with an enemy and then have nothing left of them afterwards.  


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Not without cause.

 

One reaper wouldn't be bad, maybe. I hope it's a cuttlefish reaper, if so. The baby terminator reaper has me convinced that there's no way any other reaper wouldn't be completely stupid.

Yeah, that's what I've been saying. Just one Reaper, Andromeda's vanguard that was left to die after hundreds or thousands of years. I don't want the Reapers back as villains, nobody does.


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For the last time, it sounds like what it is- a modified Inception horn followed by a modified digitized stuttering like every other scifi machine for the past eight years or so:

 

Transformers

 

Transformers Age of Extinction

 

Terminator Salvation

 

It's significance is zero, apart from hinting that we're going to be fighting high-tech machines or machine-assisted things

 

Further reading:

 

http://hitfilm.com/b...inception-horn/

 

http://www.news.com....w-1227036024695

 

I'd find you articles about the stuttering sound but it doesn't have as catchy a name.

Maybe I should show him a spectrogram?



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If reapers aren't in this game, then I expect something similar


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Firstly, I am not saying it isn't.  It very well could be.  It could just as easily not be.  Reusing assets is far from unheard of in games.  They could be reusing it to show there is some other reaper stuff happening, or they could just be reusing it for so many other reasons that border from simple oversight to something just being reaper tech without it actually being a reaper.  

 

Hard to tell but it's worth discussion :)

 

My guess, there will be some tie ins with the previous games concerning reapers but likely nothing to substantial.  I mean it's hard to have a giant galactic war with an enemy and then have nothing left of them afterwards.  

Again, this is what I'm talking about in the OP. It doesn't have to be a Reaper, just something related to them, their legacy. I find it very hard to believe a force as massive as the Reapers never thought about other galaxies.


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Maybe I should show him a spectrogram?

I don't see how a spectrogram of the Inception horn is going to prove that the Reapers or Reaper-tech won't feature in ME:A in some capacity. Especially seeing as I never claimed the inception horn was in the trailer. Refer to my other post in regards to the "digitised stuttering".



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I don't see how a spectrogram of the Inception horn is going to prove that the Reapers or Reaper-tech won't feature in ME:A in some capacity. Especially seeing as I never claimed the inception horn was in the trailer. Refer to my other post in regards to the "digitised stuttering".

I wasn't talking about that.  I was talking about the links you provided.  The frequencies aren't the same.  It's not a matter of opinion, it is fact.  



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I wasn't talking about that.  I was talking about the links you provided.  The frequencies aren't the same.  It's not a matter of opinion, it is fact.  

Who cares if the frequencies aren't the same? They're obviously similar sounds. They don't have to be identical to be similar. The flange effect on Garrus' voice was different in ME1, 2 and 3 - but it was obviously the same thing.

 

If you're not interested in discussing Reapers potentially being in ME:A, leave.



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Who cares if the frequencies aren't the same? They're obviously similar sounds. They don't have to be identical to be similar. The flange effect on Garrus' voice was different in ME1, 2 and 3 - but it was obviously the same thing.

 

If you're not interested in discussing Reapers potentially being in ME:A, leave.

Why?  Because being wrong about it hurts your feelings?  



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The digitized stuttering is used in other franchises, but you seem to fail to realise that in THIS franchise it is a sound used by the geth and the Reapers. In Mass Effect, that's who we associate the sounds with. So Bioware, obviously knowing that, wouldn't just throw the sound we associate with the geth and Reapers into the trailer for no good reason.

 

I seriously doubt they're so lazy that they're going to reuse the sound assets for old bad guys for their new bad guys.

Again, yes they are. The trailer is not just geared at returning Mass Effect fans, it's geared towards new players as well. New players who don't have any expectation beyond "digital stuttering=high tech robots".

 

It's not laziness, well not any more than using that type of sound to begin with.

 

We'll just put aside the fact that assets are reused over and over in video game development and there's still over a year until release. Placeholders should come as no surprise.



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Why?  Because being wrong about it hurts your feelings?  

Being wrong about what? You don't think they're the same sound, but myself and others do. Looks like it is opinion.

 

My feelings aren't hurt, you're just going to derail the thread and get it locked which I'd rather you didn't



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Again, yes they are. The trailer is not just geared at returning Mass Effect fans, it's geared towards new players as well. New players who don't have any expectation beyond "digital stuttering=high tech robots".

 

It's not laziness, well not any more than using that type of sound to begin with.

 

We'll just put aside the fact that assets are reused over and over in video game development and there's still over a year until release. Placeholders should come as no surprise.

This trailer was OBVIOUSLY geared at returning Mass Effect fans, what with the N7 and the Mako and omni-blade. What makes you think new players would recognise any of that stuff?

 

Yeah, assets are reused - but not when your players already identify that sound with a certain character or species within the game universe. We'll just have to wait and see.



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The Mako and N7 logo are iconic identifiers of the series (despite the former looking completely different). The omni-blade also became fairly iconic due to its prominence in ME3 advertising. Your alleged "Reaper sounds" are/did not.



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The Mako and N7 logo are iconic identifiers of the series (despite the former looking completely different). The omni-blade also became fairly iconic due to its prominence in ME3 advertising. Your alleged "Reaper sounds" are/did not.

But anyone who isn't a fan of ME or hasn't heard of the game before isn't going to know what they are? Maybe N7, but definitely not the Mako. This trailer was for the fans.

 

But again, unless you want to discuss the Reapers being in ME:A, drop it



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This trailer was OBVIOUSLY geared at returning Mass Effect fans, what with the N7 and the Mako and omni-blade. What makes you think new players would recognise any of that stuff?

 

Yeah, assets are reused - but not when your players already identify that sound with a certain character or species within the game universe. We'll just have to wait and see.

Straight up, I think you put too much faith in Bioware.  I can easily believe they just threw it in to make it sound all sci fiy and mass effecty without ever realizing we may make a correlation.



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The Mako and N7 logo are iconic identifiers of the series (despite the former looking completely different). The omni-blade also became fairly iconic due to its prominence in ME3 advertising. Your alleged "Reaper sounds" are/did not.

 

The Reaper sound itself is pretty much a standard sci-fi thing now


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Straight up, I think you put too much faith in Bioware.  I can easily believe they just threw it in to make it sound all sci fiy and mass effecty without ever realizing we may make a correlation.

I do have some faith in Bioware, we'll just have to see if they did it intentionally or not in the next year.



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But anyone who isn't a fan of ME or hasn't heard of the game before isn't going to know what they are? Maybe N7, but definitely not the Mako. This trailer was for the fans.

 

But again, unless you want to discuss the Reapers being in ME:A, drop it

The Mako was not as prominently featured in the trailer. anyway We know it's the Mako because we're told it's the Mako (or rather, the new Mako). But even though they're in the frame for a comparative period of time the Mako sips in and out over a hill while the N7 is highlighted center screen.

 

What that says is "Mass Effect" and "exploration" -exactly what they're promising.



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No, just...no.

 

That would be a terrible idea.



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Again, this is what I'm talking about in the OP. It doesn't have to be a Reaper, just something related to them, their legacy. I find it very hard to believe a force as massive as the Reapers never thought about other galaxies.

 

I don't. Their programming limited them to the Milky Way. Bringing the reapers, a reaper, or anything to do with the reapers to Andromeda would be a terrible idea. Anyone who hasn't played Mass Effect before can buy and play the old trilogy if they're curious. The old trilogy had a terrible ending and I want to leave it behind. A fresh start is exactly what is needed, and nothing to do with reapers is part of that.

 

Mass Effect Andromeda is the best place to start. I want to forget the reapers and that red, green and blue ending. I want nothing about them and nothing related to their "legacy."


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I don't. Their programming limited them to the Milky Way. Bringing the reapers, a reaper, or anything to do with the reapers to Andromeda would be a terrible idea. Anyone who hasn't played Mass Effect before can buy and play the old trilogy if they're curious. The old trilogy had a terrible ending and I want to leave it behind. A fresh start is exactly what is needed, and nothing to do with reapers is part of that.
 
Mass Effect Andromeda is the best place to start. I want to forget the reapers and that red, green and blue ending. I want nothing about them and nothing related to their "legacy."


Might be a problem since we're probably going to require Reaper tech to get to Andromeda if a wild wormhole doesn't appear.

We'll only be in Andromeda because of the Reapers. ;)

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Might be a problem since we're probably going to require Reaper tech to get to Andromeda if a wild wormhole doesn't appear.

We'll only be in Andromeda because of the Reapers. ;)

 

But it's not a Reaper itself, unless we hijacked one of their bodies and used it as a ship :P



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But it's not a Reaper itself, unless we hijacked one of their bodies and used it as a ship :P


It's part of their legacy, though. Sovereign himself says it. :whistle: