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[Avilan II]

How many races or galaxies would they go through before getting their asxes kicked?

 

Look, it's all speculation, but the universe just too big, and the Reapers too old to simply hand wave away any expansion of their activities to other galaxies.  It just makes no sense whatsoever.

 

 

Actually your argument works the other way around.

Also, I don't get the whole idea of them spreading outside the galaxy, since the games state they go into dark space to hibernate (I get that some people just don't get that "dark space" isn't some corridor between galaxies, but that the distance between galaxies are unfathomable), to conserve energy between harvests. They are not advanced enough to fly to another galaxy. ALSO, they are not programmed to.

[ruggly]

Cautiously optimistic.

[Pasquale1234]

While that last bit made me smile Benezia only had Liara as far as we know. Liara's father, who's name escapes me, doesn't mention having many siblings either or a lot of children. I mean there is no evidence that they would have a lot of children and considering they lived on a single planet for generations and didn't overpopulate that mother we can imagine that while long lived they likely weren't banging every second of everyday...I die a little inside when I think that...anyway I don't doubt Asari families are big, but because they live long not because each mother has eight kids every ten years.

Not to mention - asari reproduction, as I understand it, is by choice, not chance. Asari engage in a different sort of bonding to produce offspring; Liara tells us in ME1 that physical contact may or may not be part of it. Asari do not conceive children via standard sex as we know it.

Aethyta (Liara's dad) mentioned having a child with a hanar.

On top of all that - as the oldest race in the galaxy, if the asari were all that prolific, they would have overrun the galaxy long before humans came along.

[General TSAR]

I haven't played it nor watched gameplay footage, so I can't judge it yet.

[KotorEffect3]

Being that it is a Mass Effect game I already love it by default however I don't think there are enough details out right now to judge how it will be compared to the games in the Shepard trilogy.  I see alot of speculation and assumptions being posted so far in the forum but not a whole lot of facts.  I think it is best to wait and see what is actually in the game before making any kinds of assumptions.  So far we kow it will take place in the Andromeda galaxy and that is it.

[Maniccc]

Actually your argument works the other way around.

Also, I don't get the whole idea of them spreading outside the galaxy, since the games state they go into dark space to hibernate (I get that some people just don't get that "dark space" isn't some corridor between galaxies, but that the distance between galaxies are unfathomable), to conserve energy between harvests. They are not advanced enough to fly to another galaxy. ALSO, they are not programmed to.

Dark space is not a corridor...who said that?  They live outside of our galaxy....  I have no idea where you get this.  And you say that the distance between galaxies is "unfathomable" but in a billion years they can't doit but we can in the midst of a war where we are starving for resources and throwing everything into making the super weapon.  Right, makes sense.

 

As far as programming, we know that is meaningless, because they have already violated their original programming.

 

Hibernation is a cop out.  The wiki says that, but it also says they hibernate for 50k years at a time.  If you carefully play ME1, you will learn that there is no 50k year cycle, but that they return when the time is right for them to show up to save organics from some synthetic menace.  It was later that they turned it into a 50k year cycle and that they hibernate in the meantime to handwave away any real answer there.  The lore here is inconsistent.  Besides a 50k year cycle makes no sense, since by the time they wake up to reap, all the organics might have been killed by synthetics.  The idea at first was that they monitor the situation somehow, presumably via the Citadel.  This was implied, but never clarified, though it was suggested at the time that those critters on the Citadel that ran around repairing and maintaining it were the ones doing the monitoring.  There was a lot of missed opportunity story wise there, by the way.

 

So no, sorry, it makes no sense.  The story, the lore, all of it is inconsistent.  There are several loose threads, false starts, dead end plotlines in the whole thing.  It is some of the sloppiest most incompetent writing in all of fiction.

[Valkyrja]

So no, sorry, it makes no sense.  The story, the lore, all of it is inconsistent.  There are several loose threads, false starts, dead end plotlines in the whole thing.  It is some of the sloppiest most incompetent writing in all of fiction.

 

Taking videogame storytelling this seriously.

 

[Zatche]

I can't say for sure yet, but chances are my experience with MEA will be a lot like my experience with other Bioware games.

 

I will probably:

• get a kick out of character creation
• enjoy interacting with interesting characters (If they can do it the Milky Way, I'm sure they can do it in Andromeda)
• really really like some gameplay mechanics (I'm hoping the combat is like ME3)
• find other design decisions kind of puzzling, but bearable
• not pay too much attention as to whether the overarching plot is any good

[DanishViking]

Well here is my take on it

 

im happy we got a name and date

 

but im dissapointed with how fare that release date is and also they dident really show us anything

 

they are fare along in making of the game so i expected more like gameplay.

 

and it dident help that fallout 4 did the same thing but with a release date that's in 2015.

 

so im kinda both

 

happy/dissapointed.

[Vespervin]

How can I make a decision if I haven't even played the game yet?

[The Elder King]

I'm Interested, with concerns about the galaxy voyage and the plot of the game. Though To be fair I'd feeling the same with a game in the MW too, regardless If sequel, prequel or reboot.

[KaiserShep]

Not to mention - asari reproduction, as I understand it, is by choice, not chance. Asari engage in a different sort of bonding to produce offspring; Liara tells us in ME1 that physical contact may or may not be part of it. Asari do not conceive children via standard sex as we know it.

Aethyta (Liara's dad) mentioned having a child with a hanar.

On top of all that - as the oldest race in the galaxy, if the asari were all that prolific, they would have overrun the galaxy long before humans came along.

 

I imagine if humans were able to actively block pregnancy with just a thought regardless of how active they were, our population would be ridiculously lower than it is now.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

So I've noticed a lot of people already criticizing the game before we have any kind of details of this game.  Aside from the leak, which the only thing to be factual as of yet is that it takes place in the Andromeda galaxy and that we will have a Krogan squadmate (possibly female).

 

But why do you already dislike the game?  

 

The ME trilogy was like a reflection of the difficulty I was going through then (I had no life, my life was poured, focused on the care of another for ten years), it was the gateway through which I entered a different world where I could forget and "live" with the protagonist's struggles and triumphs. When they took her out in such a ridiculous ill conceived conclusion, they took the heart out of me. They took hope from me.

 

My burden is now gone, she is finally at peace and I'm slowly retaking my life back. The games I play now are for enjoyment and entertainment. Looking at ME now, it is a reminder of those years. I recalled it with affection and remembered Shepard, who she was, what she represented and what she had meant to me. Nothing can take her place. Hence, I looked at ME4 with a jaundiced eye. They would have done themselves a better service to distance it from the Shepard era and not even bring humans into it. The asari were the first pathfiners of the CE era and were the most logical choice for protagonist. If not asari, then other races or introduced a new playable alien race.

[N7BlackDahlia]

I love it with a fervent passion, as is my initial reaction to most things with "Bioware" on it.

Pretty much.

[Fast Jimmy]

I imagine if humans were able to actively block pregnancy with just a thought regardless of how active they were, our population would be ridiculously lower than it is now.

I disagree. Aside from today's societal norms of sex for relationship and pleasure, for the majority of humanity's history, the goal was often to have as many children as possible, especially in agrarian societies, where more children meant more help to farm the land. It wasn't until the 20th century's introduction of refrigeration and other means of preserving food that there was enough food to feed more mouths than were needed for most industrialized countries that led to farming life as a minority and the concept of NOT wanting as many kids as possible really became a concern. Essentially, when having a child meant significant more cost than they would bring in field labor, people stopped wanting to have them, at least in large numbers.

So if humanity had evolved with this ability, I don't see it reducing our drive for population growth until quite recently. And even then, you still have a number of people who try to have children but are unable to, indicating many people would gladly want an On/Off switch for reproduction to work for them to have more kids, not less.

[Medhia_Nox]

I've only played it for a few hours... but I'm loving what I've seen!

[SmilesJA]

It's best to start fresh, after debacle that was the ending.

[Danny Boy 7]

Dark space is not a corridor...who said that?  They live outside of our galaxy....  I have no idea where you get this.  And you say that the distance between galaxies is "unfathomable" but in a billion years they can't doit but we can in the midst of a war where we are starving for resources and throwing everything into making the super weapon.  Right, makes sense.

 

As far as programming, we know that is meaningless, because they have already violated their original programming.

 

Hibernation is a cop out.  The wiki says that, but it also says they hibernate for 50k years at a time.  If you carefully play ME1, you will learn that there is no 50k year cycle, but that they return when the time is right for them to show up to save organics from some synthetic menace.  It was later that they turned it into a 50k year cycle and that they hibernate in the meantime to handwave away any real answer there.  The lore here is inconsistent.  Besides a 50k year cycle makes no sense, since by the time they wake up to reap, all the organics might have been killed by synthetics.  The idea at first was that they monitor the situation somehow, presumably via the Citadel.  This was implied, but never clarified, though it was suggested at the time that those critters on the Citadel that ran around repairing and maintaining it were the ones doing the monitoring.  There was a lot of missed opportunity story wise there, by the way.

 

So no, sorry, it makes no sense.  The story, the lore, all of it is inconsistent.  There are several loose threads, false starts, dead end plotlines in the whole thing.  It is some of the sloppiest most incompetent writing in all of fiction.

So let me get this straight.

 

Because you speculated that the Reapers "expanded like a plague" it somehow invalidates not only the in game lore, but makes the game's writing sloppy as well. 

 

Really.

[Avilan II]

As far as programming, we know that is meaningless, because they have already violated their original programming.

No they explicitly didnt.
Even the Leviathan you talk to in person says the Intelligence still to this day work as intended.

[Felya87]

I'm frankly still too burned by ME3 ending (and not only) to be really optimistic about MEA.

I'm curious? of course.

I'm exited? No.

Will I buy it? Maybe once I have friends told me (if they buy or spoil the games for themselves) if the ending is as horrible as in ME3. I'm sorry, but for me the end of the journey is as much important as the journey.

And I'm not sure I would buy the game even then, if is another trilogy: I'm not going to spend so many hours of game, many differend run, fall in love with characters and story just to have all destroyed by a retarded ending, killing basically years of waiting.

 

I hate it? no. Not yet. Time will tell.

[Jester]

Simple, there is only one ending as canon. Destroy. 

They will most likely exclude synthesis anyway (because possibility of including it would mean, that our character might be this organic-synthetic hybrid).

Which is actually a bit stupid, because synthesis in the answer to the problem, that Reapers were created in order to solve.

 

After all, the Harvests were only temporary solution and not the final answer. Leviathan claims, that the Reapers have not fullfiled their purpose and that Harvests are basically a continued experiment/research in order to find the answer. The Godkid later claims, that because now they know, that synthesis is possible, reaching it is inevitable - which means that synthesis was the answer that the Reapers were looking for.

 

Of course, it's quite possible, that they will make Synthesis canon. Or that voyage to Andromeda started before ME3 ending and they are not affected by it. 

Who knows.

[fyz306903]

I don't either love or hate it. We've got one teaser, the odd tidbit of info and a leak that might be true. In short we know very little about this. I think it has the potential to be amazing, but why people are saying that they hate when the literally know nothing, and worst of all acting as if this game not containing shepard and being  a kind of spin-off/soft reboot of the original trilogy was some horrible surprise, is a bit stupid! Bioware have been hinting at this since ME3 came out? Were these guys hoping that Bioware would just say that everything they've said between now and 2013 was a joke? 

[AllThatJazz]

I hate the fact that I won't have it until next autumn at the earliest (I'll be 42, ffs!). Does that count?

[Joseph Warrick]

The trailer isn't my favourite because the place looks a lot like the western approach. Add to that 100 planets and see myself playing dragon age inquisition in space - inquisition is the first Bioware game I didn't finish. Not saying it's going to happen, just sharing impressions.

On the other hand I like going to another galaxy and the human-only protagonist could be a tradeoff for improved reactivity. Those are my reasons to be optimistic.

[The Master C]

It's silly to hate a game you have never played. Let alone hate it based on a very few details given about it. 

 

We've only been given the actual context for the game and pure aesthetic evidence as per the Trailer. It's like when people were already judging FO4 based on its in-game not pre-rendered exaggerated graphics. Some people will just complain no matter what. Those people need to thrown out of a window if you ask me.