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#126
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ea there whatmore do you need to say they should have stuck to what they can do football and soccer games

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DeadJediJamie

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This doesn't bode well for an imminent release in my view. All this continuous flaffing about and vague promises of telling the consumer "where we stand", means that it might take a while. I don't see any gleam of hope yet.



Seriously, if this is the best they can do for a 45 minutes piece of DLC, then something is terribly wrong.

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DeadJediJamie wrote...

This doesn't bode well for an imminent release in my view. All this continuous flaffing about and vague promises of telling the consumer "where we stand", means that it might take a while. I don't see any gleam of hope yet.

Seriously, if this is the best they can do for a 45 minutes piece of DLC, then something is terribly wrong.


It does make me seriously skeptical about their ability to get Awakening out in March.  Especially since it's not just RtO.  Mass Effect 2 also had some DLC problems that forced them to delay their download ability.

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I told you all a week or so ago that it would come out Groundhog Day.

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Colenda wrote...

We've got the promise of an update, at last. I'm trying out the friendly carrot approach, in the hope of encouraging the community managers to be more forthcoming and actually talk with their customers


Understood, and I can sympathize with that

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Hopefully this announcement wont be delayed as well.

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xCobalt wrote...

Hopefully this announcement wont be delayed as well.


Almost 6pm EST.  I think hope is fading.

Modifié par Kalledon, 27 janvier 2010 - 10:32 .


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Kalledon wrote...

DeadJediJamie wrote...

This doesn't bode well for an imminent release in my view. All this continuous flaffing about and vague promises of telling the consumer "where we stand", means that it might take a while. I don't see any gleam of hope yet.

Seriously, if this is the best they can do for a 45 minutes piece of DLC, then something is terribly wrong.


It does make me seriously skeptical about their ability to get Awakening out in March.  Especially since it's not just RtO.  Mass Effect 2 also had some DLC problems that forced them to delay their download ability.


I agree, the best thing Bioware could do is pull that premature release date. If there is this much furore over a 45 minute piece of DLC, there will be outright pandemonium for the expansion. Not aware of the ME 2 problems because we Europeans (mostly) don't get it until Friday.

What is most alarming is that the two studios who developed DA and ME2 are completely separate. There is definitely some curse with BW and DLC.

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Kalledon wrote...

xCobalt wrote...

Hopefully this announcement wont be delayed as well.


Almost 6pm EST.  I think hope is fading.


I hope you're wrong Kalledon but you might not be and that's just sad :(

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Kalledon wrote...
Almost 6pm EST.  I think hope is fading.


Bioware is in Edmonton, 2 hours behind EST. So they've still got a bit left in their pumpkin yet.

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They probably dont want to say too much because they had to shut down several threads because people were making harsh comments directed at EA. And they dont want to give anyone more false hope or in other words more ammunition for you to use against them. The fact that he said they still dont have a release date means it's likely still pretty far off.

I dont mind if they're improving the quality of the DLC and making it longer as well as fixing the bugs. It's just that I have a few characters waiting to try out some of the new weapons and armor lol. And I want to see what my characters have to say about what happened down there at Ostagar! But, since we can take our gear to Awakening, I guess I can wait as long Awakening doesnt beat RTO out! I also hope the PS3 version of the DLC doesnt take even longer after all this wait.

Modifié par lightstryker, 27 janvier 2010 - 11:25 .


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lightstryker wrote...
I dont mind if they're improving the quality of the DLC and making it longer as well as fixing the bugs. It's just that I have a few characters waiting to try out some of the new weapons and armor lol. And I want to see what my characters have to say about what happened down there at Ostagar! But, since we can take our gear to Awakening, I guess I can wait as long Awakening doesnt beat RTO out!


Its wishful thinking at best but I wouldn't expect them to expand the DLC at all. Simply put, there wouldn't be enough time. 

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DeadJediJamie wrote...

Kalledon wrote...

DeadJediJamie wrote...

This doesn't bode well for an imminent release in my view. All this continuous flaffing about and vague promises of telling the consumer "where we stand", means that it might take a while. I don't see any gleam of hope yet.

Seriously, if this is the best they can do for a 45 minutes piece of DLC, then something is terribly wrong.


It does make me seriously skeptical about their ability to get Awakening out in March.  Especially since it's not just RtO.  Mass Effect 2 also had some DLC problems that forced them to delay their download ability.


I agree, the best thing Bioware could do is pull that premature release date. If there is this much furore over a 45 minute piece of DLC, there will be outright pandemonium for the expansion. Not aware of the ME 2 problems because we Europeans (mostly) don't get it until Friday.

What is most alarming is that the two studios who developed DA and ME2 are completely separate. There is definitely some curse with BW and DLC.


I agree that the smart thing to do is pull the release date of Awakening. That way its a win-win situation, people won't get hyped and enraged if something goes wrong at the last minute and will be pleasantly surprised when the expansion does indeed come out.

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xCobalt wrote...

lightstryker wrote...
I dont mind if they're improving the quality of the DLC and making it longer as well as fixing the bugs. It's just that I have a few characters waiting to try out some of the new weapons and armor lol. And I want to see what my characters have to say about what happened down there at Ostagar! But, since we can take our gear to Awakening, I guess I can wait as long Awakening doesnt beat RTO out!


Its wishful thinking at best but I wouldn't expect them to expand the DLC at all. Simply put, there wouldn't be enough time. 


Yeah, I know. I wish! From the sound of it, RtO will probably be the same length or a maybe a hair longer than Warden's Peak and Stone Prisoner.

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I know a couple of people who have it on the xbox and it took them 45 minutes. No rushing or anything really.

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brask_me wrote...

Kalledon wrote...
Almost 6pm EST.  I think hope is fading.


Bioware is in Edmonton, 2 hours behind EST. So they've still got a bit left in their pumpkin yet.

Damn its 12 am here in ireland.Image IPB

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BW lost SO MUCH MONEY on the way this release of RTO was supposed to go down, beleive me they are NOT happy . And the way i herd ME2 dlc went down , seems to me its not worth it to create this money making scheme On BOTh ends of the spectrum for that matter. I personally am against these 45 min add ons and I IUV exrta content, just release them on a full expantion pack like the good old days.

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they should release it for free in Awakening. Returning to Ostagar would be the playable intro and after you get revenge let the awakenings begin !

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this

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rruffo wrote...

BW lost SO MUCH MONEY on the way this release of RTO was supposed to go down, beleive me they are NOT happy . And the way i herd ME2 dlc went down , seems to me its not worth it to create this money making scheme On BOTh ends of the spectrum for that matter. I personally am against these 45 min add ons and I IUV exrta content, just release them on a full expantion pack like the good old days.

How did they lose money when many pc gamers decided to buy points in anticipation of the release?

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Cataurus wrote...

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Interesting find. I'm not sure what to make of this myself, it looks promising though. Alas, the timing clashing with the release of ME2 is astoundingly bad. I won't make generalisations and say that the majority of people will not buy it simply by virtue of the fact that they're playing ME2, however, in my case it is unlikely that I will even be aware of the DLC release because I'll be playing ME2.

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xCobalt wrote...

How did they lose money when many pc gamers decided to buy points in anticipation of the release?


-Losing share of the DLC market where points are used for non-EA content (XBL, PSN in some way).
-Losing interest in future DLC purchase, including RtO.
-Not everyone buys points ahead of time, and given RtO's issues, doubt many will again.
-Losing momentum (cost, time, and even market hype) in providing other DLC also translates into a financial loss.

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not every pc gamer decided to buy points moment before release , sounds to me that there are many that doubting BW ability to deliver a smooth transaction of dlc . Where there is doubt there is fear, fear of losing or not getting what they want. They lost my money only because ive completed DOA , not goin back until awakinings

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ZeroR3D wrote...

xCobalt wrote...

How did they lose money when many pc gamers decided to buy points in anticipation of the release?


-Losing share of the DLC market where points are used for non-EA content (XBL, PSN in some way).
-Losing interest in future DLC purchase, including RtO.
-Not everyone buys points ahead of time, and given RtO's issues, doubt many will again.
-Losing momentum (cost, time, and even market hype) in providing other DLC also translates into a financial loss.

So, really, nothing tangible? Assumptions =/= Financial Lost. One can form opinions that may have affected the company but when it comes to solid numbers, they have gained some revenue. At this point, I'm not sure if they actually made actual profit given the work they put in. 

Many people who play DA on Xbox have already paid for the DLC and from what I read on the forums, a lot are pissed for purchasing points with nothing to spend it on.

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Thanks for the link Cataurus!



I can't imagine the deciding factor of whether someone is going to buy Return to Ostagar or not would be down to a delay of a few weeks.



I think its more likely that the standard of the content would be the most important. I don't think it looks amazing by any means, but if you asked me was it worth $5 I'd say yes.