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Débuté par Significative , juin 19 2015 12:22

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Posté 24 juin 2015 - 10:21

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*snip*

 

In some cases it is the narm charm that makes the work so enjoyable you cannot honestly say you did not enjoy it even if you do not consider it good the way it was likely intended.  

 

As an example, the "Mortal Kombat: Konquest" live-action TV series: The characters are not that bright, their plans not all that good, their actions not all that sensible and as Phelous says, it punishes you for paying attention especially to continuity but sometimes there are these moments that you consider absolutely wonderful and you somehow end up considering your time watching an episode well-spent. Take the actor of Quan Chi who took a look at the script, read it and realised there was no saving the character through serious acting so he decided to set a new definition for camp and it makes every moment with the character on-screen so joyous that I cannot help but love the show for introducing this version of the character.


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Posté 24 juin 2015 - 10:40

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In some cases it is the narm charm that makes the work so enjoyable you cannot honestly say you did not enjoy it even if you do not consider it good the way it was likely intended.

As an example, the "Mortal Kombat: Konquest" live-action TV series: The characters are not that bright, their plans not all that good, their actions not all that sensible and as Phelous says, it punishes you for paying attention especially to continuity but sometimes there are these moments that you consider absolutely wonderful and you somehow end up considering your time watching an episode well-spent. Take the actor of Quan Chi who took a look at the script, read it and realised there was no saving the character through serious acting so he decided to set a new definition for camp and it makes every moment with the character on-screen so joyous that I cannot help but love the show for introducing this version of the character.


I nearly choked on lukewarm coffee when Sera told me to hold it right there and to stand still for her.. Suddenly a bow and arrow drawn on me. I did have an up and down roller-coaster with the game.

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Posté 25 juin 2015 - 04:31

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DA:I may be many things - positive and negative. Low Quality would not be one of them...


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#54
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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 07:33

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Oh, but it is low quality. From combat, through char development, to quests.

 

Unless you're talking about visuals. Visuals are top-notch.


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 12:18

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Oh, but it is low quality. From combat, through char development, to quests.

 

Unless you're talking about visuals. Visuals are top-notch.

Have to say I agree with this and the OP, too bad really, so much potential that in my opinion was never realized leaving so much on the table


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 12:30

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The voice acting was great.

The companions were very good.

The banter within the party was great.

Exploration was good.

The areas were visually stunning.

 

 

That were the good parts of the game.

I disagree about exploration but the rest yes those things were pretty good

I would add Save Import to that list

 

Apart from that DA:I (at least for me) failed in every way (story, side quests, open world, protagonist, villian etc.)


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 12:33

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You don't have to do them though. I just pick the ones I want to do and leave the rest, still make it to the end at max level. My last play-through I didn't even set foot in Hissing Wastes until after finishing the main plot, and never went to Oasis at all. Skipped a bunch of stuff in all the other areas also. Just à la carte what you do and it becomes much more enjoyable. 43393.gif

So just skip half the content just because Bioware was lazy when they designed the zones? Seems legit


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 12:36

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So a game should force you to do every quest every time or it is not worth the money?

DA:I is about 70% "exploration" and doing lame fetch quests

The open world is the most important of the game and where they clearly focused on

Sadly that part sucks (in my opinion I'm sure others agree) so they failed to make the open world interesting enough (with meaningful side quests etc.)
and as a result there is no motivation to play through it again

So yes I would say its not worth the money


#59
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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 02:47

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So just skip half the content just because Bioware was lazy when they designed the zones? Seems legit

If it works for some, who are you to...troll? Oh wait...

 

DA:I is about 70% "exploration" and doing lame fetch quests

The open world is the most important of the game and where they clearly focused on

Sadly that part sucks (in my opinion I'm sure others agree) so they failed to make the open world interesting enough (with meaningful side quests etc.)
and as a result there is no motivation to play through it again

So yes I would say its not worth the money

And lets not forget about the part where some people don't agree with you. We all know you hate the game, you don't have to keep saying so in every thread that gets made.


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 03:09

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DA:I is about 70% "exploration" and doing lame fetch quests

The open world is the most important of the game and where they clearly focused on

Sadly that part sucks (in my opinion I'm sure others agree) so they failed to make the open world interesting enough (with meaningful side quests etc.)
and as a result there is no motivation to play through it again

So yes I would say its not worth the money

 

So, a game that more or less forces you to skip, lets say 50 % of the content, is a bad game? A low quality game?


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 03:10

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If it works for some, who are you to...troll? Oh wait...

 

And lets not forget about the part where some people don't agree with you. We all know you hate the game, you don't have to keep saying so in every thread that gets made.

This thread is called "A low quality game" and I shouldn't post here because fanboys get crazy lol?

No one's forcing you to come here

 

I wonder who the troll is, I never said that everyone agrees with me


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 03:11

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So, a game that more or less forces you to skip, lets say 50 % of the content, is a bad game? A low quality game?

Yes it means they didn't do their job right with the side content

 

There are always some collectibles or fetch quests (even DA:O had those) but that should be a small part of the game

Most of the side missions should be meaningful and encourage the players to do them


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 03:22

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I've always got the impression that DAI is a parody of itself with all of its fetch quests and lack of high quality content. To be honest, I've never played an rpg with so many fetch quests inside. It felt ssooo wrong (sorry).


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#64
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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 03:31

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Some posts talk about why they feel the game is low quality which I think is fair. I don't think it's right to say that it's low quality for everyone however.. I request if people are to post that the game is bad.. Maybe offer suggestions and elaborate how certain decisions impacted their enjoyment with the game?

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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 03:32

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Yes it means they didn't do their job right with the side content

 

There are always some collectibles or fetch quests (even DA:O had those) but that should be a small part of the game

Most of the side missions should be meaningful and encourage the players to do them

 

So since you outlevel at least 50 % of the side content in TW3 and thus makes it, if not impossible but truly a drudge to wade through, - TW3 is a low quality game?


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 03:34

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This thread is called "A low quality game" and I shouldn't post here because fanboys get crazy lol?

No one's forcing you to come here

 

I wonder who the troll is, I never said that everyone agrees with me

Seeing that I was just trying to help Eternal Dust with her situation with a suggestion, I am not the troll. You on the other hand have been trolling the entire Inq Forums since you figured out you hated the game. Why don't you do us all a huge favor and just go live on the CDPR forums where you can spew your vitriol, and leave us in peace?


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 04:00

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It has its issues, sure, but overall?  Inquisition certainly isn't a low quality game.

 

I can't help but think the people who say that haven't played enough games.


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 04:17

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Seeing that I was just trying to help Eternal Dust with her situation with a suggestion, I am not the troll. You on the other hand have been trolling the entire Inq Forums since you figured out you hated the game. Why don't you do us all a huge favor and just go live on the CDPR forums where you can spew your vitriol, and leave us in peace?

Trolling=someone who doesn't like the game pls try harder and tone that fanboyism down

Especially since this thread was made to talk about DA:I being a low quality game or not

 

If you can't deal with any criticism and can't be at peace when someone hates on the game then don't post here (maybe go to the Twitter thread or story and characters forum? just a suggestion too :rolleyes: ) its as simple as that

 

This isn't a fanboy forum so no I'm not going to leave (besides I'm looking forward to ME:A)


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 04:19

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So since you outlevel at least 50 % of the side content in TW3 and thus makes it, if not impossible but truly a drudge to wade through, - TW3 is a low quality game?

I play RPG's for the story and characters so no its not a low quality game for me

It has (mostly) meaningful side quest and the open world is terrific I can deal with the level problem just fine


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 04:23

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Some posts talk about why they feel the game is low quality which I think is fair. I don't think it's right to say that it's low quality for everyone however.. I request if people are to post that the game is bad.. Maybe offer suggestions and elaborate how certain decisions impacted their enjoyment with the game?

Never said that it was low quality for everyone (good for those who enjoy it), fanboys just can't deal with any sort of criticism here and get defensive

Its automatically trolling if one hates DA:I 

 

I already posted this in another thread but here we go again (copy and pasting it), btw I'm a huge fan of DA:O and I also liked DA2

DA:I does have a few good points:

 

-the Save Import (especially after playing TW3 its clear Bioware is better in this regard)

 

-some new companions were awesome (Dorian, Cassandra, Solas, Blackwall) and I liked how they integrated the recurring characters

(except Hawke, Leliana and Morrigan had good roles)

 

-there are some good story moments (Haven attack, Warden arc)

 

 

But sadly it has way more negative points:

 

-terrible generic Villian (Cory was actually interesting in Legacy), who gets owned at every mission, not threatening at all

 

-bland protagonist (Inquisitor is easily the worst Bioware protag), no interesting RP possibilities, no origin stories in any form (lame war table missions don't count), races don't matter, the Inquisitor always sounds bored (would rather have a mute protag back) and is always neutral

 

-short and unsatisfying story (especially hate how they resolved the Mage Templar war already in Act1 after all the build up just lazy, same with the Breach, instead of sequel baiting we should have focused on Cory and the Breach

 

-probably my biggest gripe: the crazy amount of fetch quests (basically the main point of the game), instead of interesting NPC's to talk to, choices to make etc. we have lame letters to read with zero cutscenes (especially after playing TW3, DA:I looks cheap in this regard, hell this is a huge step back from DA:O and DA2 too

 

-the lifeless open world, no villiages, no cities just pretty but artifical looking landscapes with a few rifts to close here and there, again no interesting NPC's to talk too etc.

 

-sanitized in certain aspects, DA was always High Fantasy but it still had its dark moments, DA:I is a Fairy tale in artstyle and atmosphere (example: Demons are pouring out of the sky and instead of seeing them attacking villiages for an example we walk through beautiful countrysides with lame rifts and zero people, everything is too safe)

 

I think there are more but these are my major gripes with the game

DA:I overall is a terrible and very disappointing game

 

And for the question of why I don't just move on? Well first of I'm waiting for ME:A and hope Bioware redeems themselves, if not I will log out permanently (fanboys rejoice! not you)

 

But don't mind me apparently I'm troll because I hate the game (lol)


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 04:57

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Not to your taste =/= low quality


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 05:18

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I play RPG's for the story and characters so no its not a low quality game for me

It has (mostly) meaningful side quest and the open world is terrific I can deal with the level problem just fine

 

So it is just the usual double standards then?


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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 05:22

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I wasn't directing the comment necessarily at you Shepherd. Your post had positives and negatives. I see some others in the forums making posts that are just flat out "Bw is bad cdpr is Good" in such ways that makes me wonder if they are trying to flame bait.

I don't always agree with some defenders but it's kind of hard not to feel for some posters that genuinely feel upset at specific posters.

But it does go both ways... I saw someone jump on another poster that was fairly balanced in their plus and negative for DAI in a nasty way. Glad some mods are watching the threads carefully let's just put it that way.

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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 05:34

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I disagree about exploration but the rest yes those things were pretty good

I would add Save Import to that list

 

Apart from that DA:I (at least for me) failed in every way (story, side quests, open world, protagonist, villian etc.)

 

Maybe I should have called Exploration "Sight-seeing" instead. It was fun to walk around and seeing the open areas. Whoever designed them did a tremendous job.


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#75
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Posté 26 juin 2015 - 05:36

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Seeing that I was just trying to help Eternal Dust with her situation with a suggestion, I am not the troll. You on the other hand have been trolling the entire Inq Forums since you figured out you hated the game. Why don't you do us all a huge favor and just go live on the CDPR forums where you can spew your vitriol, and leave us in peace?

 

He is not trolling. Not by a long shot.


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