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[Malanek]

Do it simple. At end of ME3 the crucible fires releasing a massive amount of energy, which is incidentally exactly what a wormhole needs. Opens up, swallows a bunch of ships that were engaging the reapers, wormhole closes leaving them stranded in Andromeda. Simple, clean, lore friendly, playing descendants of heroes rather than cowards, and a one way trip leaves the galaxies completely isolated.

[Felya87]

Make the male Quarian romancable, and we can talk....

[Guanxii]

No, to be quite honest. I am a die hard Mass Effect fan, Andromeda hater and proud. Using wormholes to explain yourself out of this f--king mess is just the cherry on top. Without Drew this franchise fell apart worse than any other in living memory.

 

Doing the right thing by this franchise would have been to draw a line under ME3 and hit the hard reset button and not let the corrosive crap which has derailed this franchise continue. Now the series is exiled to Andromeda for reasons which defy common sense and logic and you're happy with this?

[DanAxe]

I wouldn't worry about anyone who has expressed disdain over ME:A. It's in such early stages, there isn't anything substantial to like or dislike.

 

 

This, and this and so much more this! If the forums are already flooded with complaints, I cant imagine when real info starts coming haha. This year and a half is gonna be a hell of a rollercoaster here in the ME forums

 

/buys popcorn to last 18months

[DanAxe]

There are too many good games coming out to waste your popcorn on that.

 

Cant play games at work, but can check the forums, and sure can eat popcorn

[Catastrophy]

Appeasement is not an option. I want the raw, unique and original experience.

[SofaJockey]

If folk hate the game.

They shouldn't buy it and certainly shouldn't spend their life on forums arguing about it.

Because the premise won't change.

[Guanxii]

If folk hate the game.

They shouldn't buy it and certainly shouldn't spend their life on forums arguing about it.

Because the premise won't change.

How to explain this. Hrm. I love Mass Effect like a childhood friend. It goes off and joins a cult. I still love it even though it's doing crazy things to itself and I wish it would stop. Like a sucker I still believe it can pull through even though things look pretty bleak.

[Saul Iscariot]

Guanxii, that is quite a reasonable position to take. And I do not wish to speak on behalf of Sofajockey, but I think he/she wouldn't regard you as a hater? But there are plenty of people who are quite clearly still upset about the end to ME 3. They say that they won't bother with the game, they want it in the Milky Way and they want their choices to matter. They are clearly bent on ignoring whatever choices others may have made, they just want a game tailored to them. They're the haters.

[Guanxii]

Guanxii, that is quite a reasonable position to take. And I do not wish to speak on behalf of Sofajockey, but I think he/she wouldn't regard you as a hater? But there are plenty of people who are quite clearly still upset about the end to ME 3. They say that they won't bother with the game, they want it in the Milky Way and they want their choices to matter. They are clearly bent on ignoring whatever choices others may have made, they just want a game tailored to them. They're the haters.

I don't want to hate what they are doing to this franchise but I do. This whole journey from the Mass Effect 3 ending to Andromeda to me feels like that episode of the Simpsons when Homer is desperately trying to convince himself that his spit-roasted pig isn't ruined despite everything that keeps on happening to it. "it's just a little... dirty/slimy/airborne it's still good it's still good..., etc."

[Darth_Atreyu]

It has begun, people making stuff up about an "ARK" and when it turns out to not be what they thought, they get irrationally angry. How about we all wait and see what the game will be like before wildly extrapolating out of thin air.

[Jester]

I'm not an Andromeda hater (far from it, I'm pretty enthusiastic), but this scenario is so improbable and silly, that it would discourage me from buying the game.

Arguments were pretty much already mentioned by people earlier, those are the most important:

 

- It would be impossible to keep it a secret. Thousands of people and a wormhole, and the Shadow Broker, Cerberus or other governments didn't notice it?

- A wormhole would need to be accessible from both sides (they send scouts there, before sending tens of thousands of people, right?), so there would be no reason not to give the player ability to return to Milky Way (if the wormhole closes after ME3, then we have a sin of convenience, on top of already having a sin of convenience).

- The sin of convenience. Wormhole opening just at this moment? Really? Who opened it, and why did they do it a this moment in time?

- Why would the Council invest a lot of resources to fund, organise and keep a secret a last resort operation like this, instead of... I don't know, preparing for the Reaper invasion for those 3 years?

- You assume Anderson (being on the Council) wouldn't tell Shepard about it, or that other members of the Council would somehow keep it a secret from him. 

- This pretty much means, that entire plot of previous trilogy was unnecessary, because most of the civilization could have escaped through the wormhole (why only one Arc?), instead of billions being murdered by the Reapers. 

 

So, yeah... If they made up someting like this as an explanation, that would make me very dubious about the rest of the story.

[The Elder King]

It has begun, people making stuff up about an "ARK" and when it turns out to not be what they thought, they get irrationally angry. How about we all wait and see what the game will be like before wildly extrapolating out of thin air.

While I do agree that one shouldn't get too attached to a theory, there Are reasons to At least considering a bit AT. The leak At this point has high chances To be correct, and it mentioned the PC being a Pathfinder. Which name was first shown by a dev on his/her shirt with ah emblem, and the words 'Pathfinder Initiative' and 'ARKCON'.
Granted, I do believe that this isn't enough to be sure About the theory, but it is enough to speculate.

But this debate is a rehash of Andromeda/MW. No matter what Bioware will say, someone will be disappointed.

[katamuro]

No it would make everything worse. 

A) its a huge inclusion into already established role, much larger than anything they have done so far

the premise is thin, and if you are the admiral then the whole gameplay time you are going to spend on some ship or other giving orders and doing paperwork and basically being bored while some other guy in a rank appropriate for action would go out and do it.

 

Also I see a lot of negative about people who didnt like the direction its going, and it seems that people are using it as a pretext to simply sweep away the problems of ME3 ending. Lets all agree here that the way it was handled was quite far from optimal and it introduced huge problems into the possible continuations of the franchise. Indeed the only real option that they had was to do exactly what they did. Not that it was a good option. 

 

But lets be clear, I am not saying that the game itself will be bad, crap or anything like that, it could be brilliant. What most of us dont like is that in order to continue with the game series they had to literally run out of the galaxy to make something that could be considered good enough.

[eyezonlyii]

Do it simple. At end of ME3 the crucible fires releasing a massive amount of energy, which is incidentally exactly what a wormhole needs. Opens up, swallows a bunch of ships that were engaging the reapers, wormhole closes leaving them stranded in Andromeda. Simple, clean, lore friendly, playing descendants of heroes rather than cowards, and a one way trip leaves the galaxies completely isolated.

Isn't there a black whole somewhere in the Serpent Nebula (the former address of the Citadel) anyway? maybe the hole opened there, and some of the straggling ships (or a backup contingent or something) where pulled through?

[mickey111]

how can you hate a thing which does not yet exist? 

[Steppenwolf]

Make the male Quarian romancable, and we can talk....

 

No dice.

[Felya87]

No dice.

 

Pretty please?

[Steppenwolf]

No. 

[Jehuty]

There is no way the haters will be appeased since they think they're being cool by boarding the hate train. If anything screw them, they just hate on the game since it may be different and people can't accept change. 

[Saul Iscariot]

Impulse Melan, whilst I think you are entirely right I'd hope that most people keep an open mind. They are the people that matter. I have no problem with people saying they don't like the idea of ME A, as long as we can be civil when I say why I still do.

[Lady Artifice]

Lady Artifice, if they 'fixed' the ending then they'd pee off people like me that enjoyed it.

 

There's also that. I didn't like the ending, but it didn't ruin the trilogy for me the way it did for some people. I've made peace with it...mostly through the employment of head canon. 

 

To try to make stay in the milky way would mean resolving that choice with a consistent world state for this game to take place in. I don't think it can be done. I don't think the writer's have any choice but to distance themselves from the Milky Way, after that ending whether we liked it or not. 

[N7Jamaican]

I really don't like the Ark theory...  If a wormhole opened up in near the citadel don't you think everyone would know about it?