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So, apparently there's backlash over the new Deus Ex's choice of words for the term "Mechanical Apartheid"


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People shouldn't be so afraid of words that remind them of something they would rather forget.

 

I doubt most of them were even born when Apartheid was around. Or lived in South Africa. And the ones who were are too mature to trivialize it like this.

 

It's just an opportunity to be outraged... about something.


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I doubt most of them were even born when Apartheid was around. Or lived in South Africa. And the ones who were are too mature to trivialize it like this.

 

It's just an opportunity to be outraged... about something.

 

Unfortunately, you're probably right.


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Considering how Bioware handles their games, I can't help but be surprised what all these people above are even doing at a Bioware forum. I guess these are the very same people who endlessly whine here about everything and anything connected to Bioware, despite still obviously playing their games and wasting their lifetimes on their forum.  ^_^

I've been trying to go ghost since this forum is wack as hell with its saving grace being some dope people on it. Thanks for making me log in to tell you that you must be high or something.


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Square Enix should immediately apologise and fire those devs. After all, the market has shown that SJW are the main gamer demographic.... right?



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Just people looking for excuses to get upset over something.

 

Still, SJW tears go well with the morning coffee.


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This is obviously a stupid complaint. It would be one thing if they went for the metaphor and made, I donno, some weirdly racist game. But using some expy like technology as a metaphor for race (and discrimination) is par for the course in fiction. I mean it's really on the nose - not even District 9, that's painfully and obviously about apartheid - doesn't go that far. 

 

That aside, mechanical apartheid does sound kinda stupid. 


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I haven't gotten my marching orders from the SJW Collective yet myself, but I can personally say I didn't find it offensive so much as sublimely hamfisted.
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This is weird, SJWs love when games explore real life issues in a fantasy universe but get uppity when the developers use real life terms. 


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If only.  :(

 

Part of the reason they have such a strong voice in the media nowadays is because people ignored them and left them to their devices for years, rather than confronting their craziness head on.

Sometimes the best thing to deal with crazy is to sit down, have yourself a pint, and let them be angry and pound at your door at 2 in the morning until they get tired or arrested.



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Eidos never asked for this.

Respect to the development team.
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Eidos Montreal's lead narrative designer, Mary DeMerle has commented on the backlash.

http://www.destructo...sy-294325.phtml

 

People are so ****** sensitive. Let up, and shake your body or something, and get off them soapboxes >:-(

This is what political correctness has done to our society.



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This is weird, SJWs love when games explore real life issues in a fantasy universe but get uppity when the developers use real life terms. 

 

Well, only if it's about a real group of people apparently. Otherwise, we get up in arms. 

 

Even if this mechanical apartheid is about a non-existent group, it doesn't mean it can't have real life parallels to our own history. 



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This is why me must continue the fight and push the degenerate filth of SJWs back to whence they came.

The long fight goes on, but once they are rendered impotent whereby they are regarded with scorn and ignored, we can rest easy that devs will not be cowed by professional victims and offence takers into compromise. Never should we compromise with these degenerates.

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Should have put a trigger warning for fictional racism at the beginning.



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It's the future form of KKK aka KaKtus Klan.



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Eidos never asked for this.

 

You are too Infogrames for this discussion.



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If only.  :(

 

Part of the reason they have such a strong voice in the media nowadays is because people ignored them and left them to their devices for years, rather than confronting their craziness head on.

 

I'm of the opinion that the reason they have a voice in the media is because the media actually listens to them, instead of ignoring them.



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I doubt most of them were even born when Apartheid was around. Or lived in South Africa. And the ones who were are too mature to trivialize it like this.

 

It's just an opportunity to be outraged... about something.

 

 

Indeed. At this point, some people are simply trying hard to find something that could be remotely offensive. Little more than attention seeking.



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I'm of the opinion that the reason they have a voice in the media is because the media actually listens to them, instead of ignoring them.


And there in lies the problem, they bought to the SJW mindset or are SJWs themselves so they gleefully jumped on the bandwagon.

What they didn't realise was that we'd come at them like a ****** battering ram, now most of them are terrified of printing anything inflammatory, with the notable exceptions of the hard left places and the trash that is polygon and kotaku, and even kotaku is tiptoeing around subjects.
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Boohoo. Big deal.

I'll just go back to GTA V and run over more people with my tank.

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I'm of the opinion that the reason they have a voice in the media is because the media actually listens to them, instead of ignoring them.


People who rage over content like this hide behind a perfectly understandable and important practice. Often, these people adopt the language tied to a real and cogent academic viewpoint while largely misunderstanding everything about it.

The problem seems to be that people don't think critically about what's being said. Getting up in ire about metaphors in fiction is silly.

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And there in lies the problem, they bought to the SJW mindset or are SJWs themselves so they gleefully jumped on the bandwagon.

What they didn't realise was that we'd come at them like a ****** battering ram, now most of them are terrified of printing anything inflammatory, with the notable exceptions of the hard left places and the trash that is polygon and kotaku, and even kotaku is tiptoeing around subjects.

 

In the 1980s, Andrea Dworkin was regularly interviewed, and her brand of feminism was treated as legitimate by the media, because she was being given a voice and reaching many people.

 

Eventually, after she was constantly moving goalposts, backtracking, and complaining any time an interviewer tried to question her about her statements, news and media outlets gradually stopped interviewing her. She still wrote books, and still spoke publicly, but the reduced media attention severely limited her impact. By the nineties, they weren't even reporting about her, anymore. Most people didn't know who she was, and her brand of feminism, while it didn't disappear, was given so little traction that it contracted. It was barely present in the media for the better part of two decades, until media outlets started paying attention to Anita Sarkeesian et al. And now, it's back.

 

People can argue about whatever they want, online, I don't really care. But when mainstream news outlets give crazy bigots a voice to reach the people, problems arise. When they stop, those problems shrink, even if they don't disappear entirely.


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Boohoo. Big deal.

I'll just go back to GTA V and run over more people with my tank.

 

You're doing it wrong.

 

You should do "explosions".



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I doubt most of them were even born when Apartheid was around. Or lived in South Africa. And the ones who were are too mature to trivialize it like this.

 

It's just an opportunity to be outraged... about something.

They wouldn't know two shits about it. They are usually middle class white dudes that want to be extra progressive.

 

Apartheid was crazy in South Africa and it still resonates till today. People are still feeling the effects of it.


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SJWs are useful puppets of the Illuminati. Deus Ex Mankind Divided is a game that seeks to expose the Illuminati and in order to combat this, the Illuminati are using SJWs to demonize them game. 

 

#proxywarfare #sjwilluminatipuppets

 

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