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[Sunnie]

I pretty much one-shot all normal dragons with Firestorm, do about 60% damage to the Ice dragon in Hakkon. When you have the right staff and gear bonuses its pretty much the easy button of the entire game.

[Solas]

You'd think Solas could teach you. Typical Solas tactic to keep all that to himself.

he's such an ass sometimes 

[draken-heart]

Honestly, they all have some merit. Rift mage is powerful, but you would think that KE would make more sense as you are not just the anchor-mage, but also the inquisitor, who is the leader of the inquisition, so it would make sense for someone with ledership skills would want a kind of leadership spec. After all, KE is used by those in the highest echelons of the Circle and by the guards of the Divine.

 

Honestly, If I am an elf, I feel more morally obligated to take the KE Specialization, and do a disservice to her (my inky's) race if not.

[dragonflight288]

Think about it. Your Trainer LITERALLY broke her mind to rapid-learn that specialization for you, paying a very heavy cost. For the rest of her life she will be mentally deficient and lacking in intelligence, not even knowing her own name or who her loved ones are or anything. And then you go pick someone else? She pretty much gave herself brain damage all for you, and you just walk over there to that knight enchanter or necromancer like you don't even care? You @sshols!... Or at least that's what I feel like about myself. My first playthrough I chose knight enchanter, but I did feel really guilty for it knowing I made Your Trainer's sacrifice completely and utterly meaningless. She gives up everything all for her sake, and you thank her by ignoring her. I can just imagine her committing suicide not long after because of how awful that has to feel for her. Well, if she still even has the mental function to even know how to kill herself.

 

Anyone else feel this way? Every other specialist in the game merely wasted a trip if you turn them down, but she wasted countless apprentices and mental function and time and probably even her actual life... Plus the trip, of course. I feel like such a complete dick picking another specialization, since it means I didn't even appreciate what she sacrificed for me.

 

Not really.

 

I mean, I do feel bad for her. If you take the time to read the bit on rift magic in the book, you'll see how much the Breach and the rifts have changed the known rules of magic so that once where you had to be careful, now there's far more danger where there never was. Like a bit of magic that was hard to use and thus required more effort, but thanks to the Breach, when you use the same amount of effort previously now you find yourself opening a floodgate and killing yourself.

 

Which is what Your Trainer's mentor ended up doing. It's written in the book. 

 

But yeah, more often than not, I actually find myself less inclined to learn from her because of her mental instability. Not sure how to trust that she'd teach me competently as a result. 

[MikeJW]

Look on the bright side. If you don't take her specialization it's not like she's going to remember.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Honestly, they all have some merit. Rift mage is powerful, but you would think that KE would make more sense as you are not just the anchor-mage, but also the inquisitor, who is the leader of the inquisition, so it would make sense for someone with ledership skills would want a kind of leadership spec. After all, KE is used by those in the highest echelons of the Circle and by the guards of the Divine.

Honestly, If I am an elf, I feel more morally obligated to take the KE Specialization, and do a disservice to her (my inky's) race if not.

See to me, having the Inquisition lead by someone who is essentially an elite special forces trooper makes less sense than by someone who stands back and controls flow of the battle.

Talking about historical roles of Knight Enchanters is fine but you've no elite rift mages to compare against as the techniques are so new to anyone who isn't Solas.

Still, whatever works for you...

[draken-heart]

See to me, having the Inquisition lead by someone who is essentially an elite special forces trooper makes less sense than by someone who stands back and controls flow of the battle.

Talking about historical roles of Knight Enchanters is fine but you've no elite rift mages to compare against as the techniques are so new to anyone who isn't Solas.

Still, whatever works for you...

 

I can understand. Still, it would make sense if a warrior or militaristic person was in charge of the inquisition, not a mage that people would be afraid of.

[Gervaise]

I tend to base my choice off how I role play my Inquisitor.   My elf mage who was romancing Solas took Rift Mage because she had been observing his use of it and thought she would like to learn.    She was also fascinated by the Fade, her own mark and the connection with the Rift Mage spec.  (It also helped that we still had use of Rift Mage after Solas went off). 

 

My other elf mage took Knight Enchanter because he liked the idea of being at the forefront in battle.   It was a bonus when Solas told him it had resemblances to Arcane Warrior.   I enjoyed using Knight Enchanter since he was romancing Cassandra and between them they could pretty much deal with anything thrown at them, but particularly dragons.    It didn't matter if the rest of the team got knocked out during the fight since we could handle it but if things did get dodgy, then I simply used my focus power to revive them.

 

I've yet to use Necromancer since I've not been able to come up with a good reason why my mages would choose it.   I'm currently playing a Trevelyan mage total believer and I can't see him regarding it as compatible with his faith, so likely I'll go with Knight Enchanter again.

 

I never considered I had a moral obligation to chose any spec because of the effort the trainers had put in to learn it.    That was their own choice.

[YourFunnyUncle]

I've yet to use Necromancer since I've not been able to come up with a good reason why my mages would choose it. I'm currently playing a Trevelyan mage total believer and I can't see him regarding it as compatible with his faith, so likely I'll go with Knight Enchanter again.

Yeah I have problems imagining a Trevelyan or Lavellan wanting to be a Necromancer. Maybe an Adaar who wanted to live up to people's prejudices and scare the crap out of them still further...

[dragonflight288]

Yeah I have problems imagining a Trevelyan or Lavellan wanting to be a Necromancer. Maybe an Adaar who wanted to live up to people's prejudices and scare the crap out of them still further...

 

My Adaar became a Necromancer, and I had a lot of fun with the spec.

 

I roleplayed him of wanting to do it because he had a wicked sense of humor. Choose the mage option for him when Josephine asks how he earned a reputation, and it's quite funny.

 

"I got some bandits to surrender. I threatened that if they did not I would feed them to pet demons. I summoned some wisps and they couldn't drop their weapons fast enough." 

 

That told me he's not afraid to play up the scare tactics as his own personal joke, and being a Necromancer gave him plenty of opportunities to do something similar. If only gameplay actually allowed it though, but it made me laugh. 

[Forsythia77]

I only ever feel obligated to pick KE as my specialization.  Mostly because I like to melee and have magic.  I miss Origins Battle Mage specialization.  KE allows me to have my proverbial cake and eat it too.

 

Also, it is always easiest for me to find the needed stuff for KE.  The one time I wanted to go Necromancer in a game I couldn't get those damn skulls to drop for me.  So then I was all fine, I'll go rift mage and I had the same issue - couldn't get those stupid books to drop.  It was like fate wants me to KE, so I KE. 

 

Fate also wants me to leave Vivienne on her balcony to rot, apparently.

[draken-heart]

Honestly, I feel morally responsible only when a character fits the specialization I want. I may choose Rift mage for my current mage simply because she likes to learn, and it is a "relatively" new specialization.

 

Not to mention that I am thinking of going more CC mage, so Rift Mage just seems to fit that.

[Uccio]

Why would you care about that random npc? Her choice, no one forced her. I took necromancy since it is closest to blood magic.

[Uccio]

I always thought it was a better fit too, storywise. And I liked the trainer more. But I picked KE instead. Melee didn't turn out as cool as I'd hoped though. Might do Rift next time, if I decide to play again. 

 

 

How so? It's spirit and fade based.. and doesn't drain life or control minds. Or do you mean it's got some "evil" motif about it?

 

Something like that, thought there was nothing evil in it in the end. You could not even get a undead henchman, just some spirit who would not fight for you most cases. Mostly it just attacked the random fox or what ever that was, screaming of victory in the process. After the battle.