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[Avilan II]

Seriously, no matter who we fight in the game, aren´t we the foreign invaders? Even if we settle an empty planet and other races discover it later, don´t they have a bigger claim on the planet since well, we are not even from the same galaxy?

[Steelcan]

 

 

CARING ABOUT PRIMITIVES!?

[WittyUsername]

When discussing nations, "bad" and "good" becomes irrelevant, really. War is war, it's not about who is right and wrong, it's about ownership.

[MGW7]

Black and red suits, giant starships, guns, giant unstoppable shock troopers.

 

Huh, never even thought about that.

[GnusmasTHX]

Technically, yes. Historically, no one has ever cared. For real though, when I first heard about the premise of this game I thought about this exact thing. Wondering if there will be pro-colonize anti-colonize subplot going on in the game, should be interesting if there was.

[themikefest]

Maybe have The First Contact War in Andromeda. After about 20-30 years we're buddy-buddy. 

[Abraham_uk]

 

If you consistently subscribe to the idea that all protagonists must be good guys than you cannot possibly enjoy Breaking Bad.

Yes. You will be the bad guys. To be honest I'm bored of being the good guy. Let's mix things up.

If nothing else you can at least be a nuanced bad guy with a moral compass. You just have to work harder to rationalise bad deeds.

[OhNoWhyHow]

Seriously, no matter who we fight in the game, aren´t we the foreign invaders? Even if we settle an empty planet and other races discover it later, don´t they have a bigger claim on the planet since well, we are not even from the same galaxy?

 

Not really.  This is like claiming humans have dibs on the whole Milky Way because we evolved on Earth.  We have dibs on Earth and whatever uncolonized stuff we get to first.  That is all.  You can hardly steal a planet when nobody lives on it or uses it for anything. 

[laudable11]

Well, Dragon Age: Inquisition was very imperialistic. The writers will probably have us stumble upon some genocidal race of bad guys or something.

[Avilan II]

Black and red suits, giant starships, guns, giant unstoppable shock troopers.

 

Huh, never even thought about that.

 

Are we the baddies?

https://www.youtube....h?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

 

 

 

If you consistently subscribe to the idea that all protagonists must be good guys than you cannot possibly enjoy Breaking Bad.

Yes. You will be the bad guys. To be honest I'm bored of being the good guy. Let's mix things up.

If nothing else you can at least be a nuanced bad guy with a moral compass. You just have to work harder to rationalise bad deeds.

 

I hate Breaking Bad. So you're right there.

[azarhal]

Indeed, we are playing the invaders and Bioware will make it look like we are righteous while we murder the natives because "Humanity is The Best and Cerberus was Right!"

[Steelcan]

"We will spread across the galaxy in a sea of blood!"

[Emissary of the Collectors]

Yup, just like Naboo in Phantom Menace, we are actually the instigating @sshats who start all the trouble for no reason other than entitlement...enjoy

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Let's ask Arnie:

 

 

I believe his position on the matter is clear. SALLY FORTH

[NuclearTech76]

Good and bad do not matter when the stakes are for survival. The best of us will do whatever it takes to protect ourselves and those that we hold most dear. So yeah you could consider us bad for invading other worlds/civilizations but we'll do what is necessary. 

[Draining Dragon]

Do they have a flag?

No flag, no country. Can't have one.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Let's ask Ash:

 

 

We seem to be building a consensus...

[Steelcan]

[Saul Iscariot]

Indeed, we are playing the invaders and Bioware will make it look like we are righteous while we murder the natives because "Humanity is The Best and Cerberus was Right!"

Oddly that is a parallel I see with the one's that wanted their Shepard to save everything and not have to make a sacrifice.

[AlanC9]

Whatever. I'm an American of mostly Anglo-Saxon and German ancestry. My people have been invading stuff since, well, always.

[Saul Iscariot]

Whatever. I'm an American of mostly Anglo-Saxon and German ancestry. My people have been invading stuff since, well, always.

I am of such a mixed raced I found out I'm related to a vegetable due to a mix up on what my dad ordered one meal. 

[ndw542]

First, we know very, very little about the context of the setting at this point. Unless you're coming from the viewpoint that simply traveling to another galaxy is an aggressive act, nothing we've seen to date indicates the Milky Wayers have done anything wrong. The fact that they're fighting a war in another galaxy doesn't mean they started that war.

Second, arbitrarily extending a given species' sovereignty or claim of rightful possession to its entire galaxy of origin is ridiculous. I can easily see an argument that a sapient species should have territorial rights over its home planet, since it will have evolved there as an integrated component of its native biome. Beyond that any limit is silly; presuming a species has natural sovereignty over a galaxy doesn't make any more or less sense than setting the limit as its solar system, local cluster of stars, local cluster of galaxies (e.g. the Local Cluster to which the Milky Way belongs), or an imaginary bubble 1,529,470 ly in diameter.

[Saul Iscariot]

Bloody commies.

[Wulfram]

There is the potential for some moral ambiguity here, and that's no bad thing, but a bunch of people showing up looking for a home aren't inherently the "baddies". Particularly if they're refugees from a genocidal war.

Realistically, any population arriving in the new galaxy can't really be big enough that they couldn't be accommodated. I mean, the Quarians had the largest fleet and were only 16,000,000 people.

I mean, bioware could certainly write a story where there was some real ambiguity, and that could be cool if Bioware are doing it deliberately, but it's not inherent in the premise.

[Joseph Warrick]

Forget Andromeda, it should be Mass Effect: Manifest Destiny.