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We're not talking about full on sequels here, we're talking about spin-off games. 
 
Still, I suppose it falls into that same mentality. All characters in ME that would make great protagonists for their own game - Mordin, Wrex, Samara, Thane - and who is the one companion who actually starred in his own game? Jacob. The least interesting of the human squadmates.

I Know You were talking about spioff games. My post about resources was about MEA specifically.

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Oh come on, the guy is a meth dealer. Vermin. Shoot the creep and get it over with.

 Uhhh huh. Sure.



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 Uhhh huh. Sure.

 

What is factually wrong with that?



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What is factually wrong with that?

 hmm nothing. You don't watch it because he's a meth dealer. Got it.

 

 

No need to bother with context or any of that nonsense. The why and how...irrelevant 



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 hmm nothing. You don't watch it because he's a meth dealer. Got it.

 

 

No need to bother with context or any of that nonsense. The why and how...irrelevant 

 

Actually it is. Guy gets cancer, can't afford bills for some reason, starts cooking meth to support his family. Also sells a vile illegal substance, gets involved in the violence associated with the trade... aka he becomes vermin. Society is better without him. Which is why there are laws against dealing meth.

 

Anyway yes, context is irrelevant. You don't excuse a bank robber that shoots a few people doing his job because he needs money for  rent. He gets life anyway. Unless it's on TV, when he becomes a hero of sorts. Apparently.



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Actually it is. Guy gets cancer, can't afford bills for some reason, starts cooking meth to support his family. Also sells a vile illegal substance, gets involved in the violence associated with the trade... aka he becomes vermin. Society is better without him. Which is why there are laws against dealing meth.

 

Anyway yes, context is irrelevant. You don't excuse a bank robber that shoots a few people doing his job because he needs money for  rent. He gets life anyway. Unless it's on TV, when he becomes a hero of sorts. Apparently.

 Walter White never became a hero of any sort. But okay.

 

 

Clearly, what draws millions of people to watch it and also call it one of the best television shows of all time didn't draw you. It's okay to be in the minority. 



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Actually it is. Guy gets cancer, can't afford bills for some reason, starts cooking meth to support his family. Also sells a vile illegal substance, gets involved in the violence associated with the trade... aka he becomes vermin. Society is better without him. Which is why there are laws against dealing meth.

 

Anyway yes, context is irrelevant. You don't excuse a bank robber that shoots a few people doing his job because he needs money for  rent. He gets life anyway. Unless it's on TV, when he becomes a hero of sorts. Apparently.

 

I haven't seen the show, but I do understand what you're saying. 3000 Miles to Graceland is an all around terrible movie, but the thing I hated most was that Kurt Russel is the movie's hero and by the end the filmakers apparently forget, or want the audience to, that he starts the movie robbing a casino where his group murders dozens of people. I guess they think it's ok because he doesn't kill anyone himself.

 

 

 

 Walter White never became a hero of any sort. But okay.

 

 

Clearly, what draws millions of people to watch it and also call it one of the best television shows of all time didn't draw you. It's okay to be in the minority. 

 

I notice you never say what makes it good or what does draw people. What would that be?



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I notice you never say what makes it good or what does draw people. What would that be?

 It's different things to different people. Though most agree on certain aspects. Expecting an individual such as myself to sum up in a forum post why millions of different people view it as one of the best television shows ever, is quite unrealistic. Fear not, you can always consult your favorite search engine

 

 

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http://www.forbes.co...-on-television/

 

http://www.businessi...king-bad-2013-8

 

http://www.rottentom...eaking-bad/s05/

 

http://www.hollywood...ss-world-622475

 

http://www.metacriti...ng-bad/season-4


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 It's different things to different people. Though most agree on certain aspects. Expecting an individual such as myself to sum up in a forum post why millions of different people view it as one of the best television shows ever, is quite unrealistic. Fear not, you can always consult your favorite search engine

 

 

So you criticize someone's reason for saying it's bad yet can't tell me why it's good. Got it. At least you link to other people's praise.



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Actually it is. Guy gets cancer, can't afford bills for some reason, starts cooking meth to support his family. Also sells a vile illegal substance, gets involved in the violence associated with the trade... aka he becomes vermin. Society is better without him. Which is why there are laws against dealing meth.

 

Anyway yes, context is irrelevant. You don't excuse a bank robber that shoots a few people doing his job because he needs money for  rent. He gets life anyway. Unless it's on TV, when he becomes a hero of sorts. Apparently.

That's not the point. Can you only enjoy stories where the protagonist is perfectly moral? And here I thought shades of grey added nuance (if someone makes a fifty shades joke, that thing you feel falling on your keyboard is foam from my mouth making its way through the web).


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So you criticize someone's reason for saying it's bad yet can't tell me why it's good. Got it. At least you link to other people's praise.

 please, go ahead and point out where I criticized anybody. I would wait, but then I'd be sitting here forever since you'll find no such thing.

 

Why's it good? Because it has qualities that make good tv shows. Good writing, good acting, good pacing etc etc.

 

So, you lack both a sense of sarcasm and common sense. Got it.

 

 

 

Next time you jump into a discussion you clearly don't grasp the context in which it began, it'd be best to bite your tongue or risk winding up in the predicament you're in now. Without a leg to stand on.



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That's not the point. Can you only enjoy stories where the protagonist is perfectly moral? And here I thought shades of grey added nuance (if someone makes a fifty shades joke, that thing you feel falling on your keyboard is foam from my mouth making its way through the web).

 

There's a difference between goodie two-shoes, a troubled hero, an anti-hero an anti-villain and a villain. Mr Meth was somewhere between the last two,

 

Basically I handle shades of gray. I don't do shades of black.



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There were around 600 Turian casualties during the First Contact War

Somewhere around there.

The missions would basically revolve around taking out a series of Turian held ground cannons, that prevent the alliance from sending more then sporadic reinforcements to the planet, neutralizing a enemy encampment that is preventing the Alliance from reaching the capital, taking out a enemy armor convoy that was landed to reenforce Shanxi, seizing the capital and sinking a Turian Cruiser class vessel with a seized orbital cannon.

This allows the Alliance a gap to engage the enemy Dreadnought ultimately culminating in its sinking.

All around the campaign would last around 15 hours or so, take place over nine maps ranging for verdent fields, prefabs to the industrialized city capital, to a Turian orbital station.

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Somewhere around there.
The missions would basically revolve around taking out a series of Turian held ground cannons, that prevent the alliance from sending more then sporadic reinforcements to the planet, neutralizing a enemy encampment that is preventing the Alliance from reaching the capital, taking out a enemy armor convoy that was landed to reenforce Shanxi, seizing the capital and sinking a Turian Cruiser class vessel with a seized orbital cannon.
This allows the Alliance a gap to engage the enemy Dreadnought ultimately culminating in its sinking.
All around the campaign would last around 15 hours or so, take place over nine maps ranging for verdent fields, prefabs to the industrialized city capital, to a Turian orbital station.

Why not a new game where we kill shitload of aliens and not give a crap? In the end we dominante their planets and stand in their rotting and burned corpses full of molten metal slugs.
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Why not a new game where we kill shitload of aliens and not give a crap? In the end we dominante their planets and stand in their rotting and burned corpses full of molten metal slugs.

 

That describes my ME1-3 playing experience.


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Why not a new game where we kill shitload of aliens and not give a crap? In the end we dominante their planets and stand in their rotting and burned corpses full of molten metal slugs.

 

Don't forget all the Sesame Steet mercs!



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Don't forget all the Sesame Steet mercs!

Do you mean this?
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Do you mean this?
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Two Blue Suns mercs, check.

 

Two Blood Packs, check.

 

One Eclipse, check.

 

Yep, that's an accurate portrayel of the opposing forces we faced in ME2.



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Two Blue Suns mercs, check.
 
Two Blood Packs, check.
 
One Eclipse, check.
 
Yep, that's an accurate portrayel of the opposing forces we faced in ME2.

You forget the grey ones, who were under the Shadow Broker's command.

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Two Blue Suns mercs, check.

 

Two Blood Packs, check.

 

One Eclipse, check.

 

Yep, that's an accurate portrayel of the opposing forces we faced in ME2.

 

If i didn't know any better, I'd say ME2 was an educational children's game meant to teach how to identify colors in a TPS format. The only thing it needed were some numbered merc gangs to teach the kiddies how to count.


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I will give those ME2 mercs one thing. Their death screams were hilarious, especially if you threw them off ledges. 



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You forget the grey ones, who were under the Shadow Broker's command.

 

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There, happy?



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Now I keep thinking how cool it must be to kill aliens while listening to metal/punk songs like this one:

http://youtu.be/O_rRTBAz6hg

CT-p0001-ST.jpg

There, happy?

Yes, we cant forget about them!

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Primative on a planet from Andromeda: What are you!?

Protagonist: I am the vanguard of your destruction.. Heh..


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 please, go ahead and point out where I criticized anybody. I would wait, but then I'd be sitting here forever since you'll find no such thing.

 

Why's it good? Because it has qualities that make good tv shows. Good writing, good acting, good pacing etc etc.

 

So, you lack both a sense of sarcasm and common sense. Got it.

 

 

 

Next time you jump into a discussion you clearly don't grasp the context in which it began, it'd be best to bite your tongue or risk winding up in the predicament you're in now. Without a leg to stand on.

 

 

 hmm nothing. You don't watch it because he's a meth dealer. Got it.

 

 

No need to bother with context or any of that nonsense. The why and how...irrelevant 

 

Done. Speaking of sarcasm, this is dripping with it. Instead of telling me how to engage in a conversation, maybe you should read your own posts.