Aller au contenu

Photo

Aren´t we technically the bad guys?


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
606 réponses à ce sujet

#526
shodiswe

shodiswe
  • Members
  • 4 999 messages

Primative on a planet from Andromeda: What are you!?
Protagonist: I am the vanguard of your destruction.. Heh..


Primative on a planet from Andromeda: You are an Alien from Another planet? Another star system?

Protagonist: We come from beyond the stars you know, from Another galaxy.

Primative on a planet from Andromeda: Galaxy what now?

Protagonist: Just get in line for the work camp! Or you become compost!

#527
Mcfly616

Mcfly616
  • Members
  • 8 988 messages

Done.  Instead of telling me how to engage in a conversation, maybe you should read your own posts.

 Not done at all. I'll continue to tell you how to engage in conversation once you've done what I've requested. You want to accuse me of something you've manifested in your head, I'll continue to point out how delusional you are. I'm acutely aware of what I posted. Clearly, you don't grasp what criticism is. 

 

Please, go ahead and point out where I criticized anybody. Because what you just quoted contains precisely zero criticism whatsoever. Nice going. How foolish you look. Try again....



#528
Natureguy85

Natureguy85
  • Members
  • 3 266 messages

 Not done at all. I'll continue to tell you how to engage in conversation once you've done what I've requested. You want to accuse me of something you've manifested in your head, I'll continue to point out how delusional you are. I'm acutely aware of what I posted. Clearly, you don't grasp what criticism is. 

 

Please, go ahead and point out where I criticized anybody. Because what you just quoted contains precisely zero criticism whatsoever. Nice going. How foolish you look. Try again....

 

Ok, I'll change the word to mockery then, if that helps. You sarcastically attacked his assessment of the character. If that doesn't do it for you, you clearly don't understand the English language and there's nothing more to say.



#529
Mcfly616

Mcfly616
  • Members
  • 8 988 messages

Ok, I'll change the word to mockery then, if that helps. You sarcastically attacked his assessment of the character. If that doesn't do it for you, you clearly don't understand the English language and there's nothing more to say.

 I simply observed the fact that he doesn't like the show solely because the protagonist is a meth dealer. You say words like "criticized" and "attacked", when that's just your own pessimistic interpretation. You're a bit over-sensitive. There's people you can talk to about that. I'm definitely not one of them.



#530
TeffexPope

TeffexPope
  • Members
  • 736 messages

This is the part where somebody walks in and says "take it to PMs guiz lolkthxbai"


  • In Exile aime ceci

#531
Gwydden

Gwydden
  • Members
  • 2 813 messages

There's a difference between goodie two-shoes, a troubled hero, an anti-hero an anti-villain and a villain. Mr Meth was somewhere between the last two,

 

Basically I handle shades of gray. I don't do shades of black.

Really? I haven't watched the show, but I'd place him firmly in anti-villain. He may be doing a lot of bad stuff, but he's not doing it for himself. That qualifies as 'grey' to me.

 

On the subject of MEA, I'm not sure why this is even a discussion. Our little expedition is more likely to be a boat of refugees than a colonial armada. Unless the Milkies attack without provocation, I'd say they're in pretty solid moral ground. What kind of assholes tells a bunch of refugees with nowhere else to go to go **** themselves? That's a rhetorical question; I've known quite a few myself.

 

I can already picture it. "Those damn Milkies, taking our jobs!"



#532
Natureguy85

Natureguy85
  • Members
  • 3 266 messages

 I simply observed the fact that he doesn't like the show solely because the protagonist is a meth dealer. You say words like "criticized" and "attacked", when that's just your own pessimistic interpretation. You're a bit over-sensitive. There's people you can talk to about that. I'm definitely not one of them.

 

No, you didn't simply observe it matter-of-factly. The post I quoted was dripping with sarcasm, particularly the "or any of that nonsense" bit. Maybe you didn't mean it that way, but then the problem is in your lack of communication skills.

 

Really? I haven't watched the show, but I'd place him firmly in anti-villain. He may be doing a lot of bad stuff, but he's not doing it for himself. That qualifies as 'grey' to me.

 

On the subject of MEA, I'm not sure why this is even a discussion. Our little expedition is more likely to be a boat of refugees than a colonial armada. Unless the Milkies attack without provocation, I'd say they're in pretty solid moral ground. What kind of assholes tells a bunch of refugees with nowhere else to go to go **** themselves? That's a rhetorical question; I've known quite a few myself.

 

I can already picture it. "Those damn Milkies, taking our jobs!"

 

Well, those aren't refugees with nowhere else to go.



#533
Medhia_Nox

Medhia_Nox
  • Members
  • 3 530 messages

@Jim Raynor:  Doing good things for your family (or people you like) is a selfish act, or at the very least, neutral.  It takes nothing extraordinary to do good things for someone you like.

 

BUT, I love your term "Milkies" - Bioware, this is gold, use it!

 

And I agree - refugees is by far the likeliest outcome.


  • PhroXenGold aime ceci

#534
Gwydden

Gwydden
  • Members
  • 2 813 messages

Well, those aren't refugees with nowhere else to go.

Well, we don't know yet. But as Medhia says...

 

And I agree - refugees is by far the likeliest outcome.

:D

 

@Jim Raynor:  Doing good things for your family (or people you like) is a selfish act, or at the very least, neutral.  It takes nothing extraordinary to do good things for someone you like.

Sure, but change Breaking Bad to be about a guy engaging in crime so he can live in the lap of luxury before he succumbs to cancer and you get a very different show. And in all likelihood a considerably less sympathetic villain. And if you remove the cancer part too, well then he's just an ******* and I don't think anyone will feel the slightest pity for him.

 

BUT, I love your term "Milkies" - Bioware, this is gold, use it!

IKR? It was a masterful stroke of inspiration!



#535
MrFob

MrFob
  • Members
  • 5 413 messages

I still hope we'll go there after a cannonized synthesis ending with our new reaper friends. You know, because the only way to ensure peace in the universe is to synthesze everyone and everything. Otherwise organics over there may create synthetics and those synthetics will inevitably rebell, eventually develop inter-galactic drives and destroy us. So we have to go forth in our rightous green cause and synthesize them all. For the good of everyone, for peace and for the betterment of life itself, we shall bring them closer to perfection. It is what The Shepard would have wanted!


  • Natureguy85 aime ceci

#536
God

God
  • Members
  • 2 432 messages

I still hope we'll go there after a cannonized synthesis ending with our new reaper friends. You know, because the only way to ensure peace in the universe is to synthesze everyone and everything. Otherwise organics over there may create synthetics and those synthetics will inevitably rebell, eventually develop inter-galactic drives and destroy us. So we have to go forth in our rightous green cause and synthesize them all. For the good of everyone, for peace and for the betterment of life itself, we shall bring them closer to perfection. It is what The Shepard would have wanted!

 

I know you are being facetious, but I actually think this is necessary. And preferable. 

 

Granted, I think there's more to synthesis than what is implied in the ME3 ending, but I think that it is the only solution to the issue.

 

Otherwise, no, ordinary people can't be trusted with their own destiny. Especially in the regard of synthetic life.



#537
shodiswe

shodiswe
  • Members
  • 4 999 messages
Maybe the people in the ARK are people who rejected Synthesis or ón whom it failed to attach...

So the Synthesis people built them a superadvanced ARK and told them to go somewhere where their chaotic and primitive type won't disrupt the harmony of the happy people.

You are not compattible with the bliss that's eternal happynes, wisdon and transcendance. Therefor you will have to find a new home.

We've built this moonsized Ark for you and fueled it for a ride to the Andromeda Galaxy. Good luck and may you find your own enlightenment.

#538
Ghostknob

Ghostknob
  • Members
  • 185 messages
Maybe we were invited. Seriously. Over the billion or so years the reapers did their thing another civilization or civilizations had to have made the same trek. Perhaps they sent word of a safe haven and instructions on the tech necessary to get there. I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the races we encounter originated in the Milky way.

#539
Sylvius the Mad

Sylvius the Mad
  • Members
  • 24 112 messages

@Jim Raynor:  Doing good things for your family (or people you like) is a selfish act, or at the very least, neutral.

Any act you choose to do is a selfish act. You are, fundamentally, doing it because you want to. That's why you chose it.

Selfishness is a universal consequence of free will.
  • PhroXenGold, Dunmer of Redoran et Gwydden aiment ceci

#540
In Exile

In Exile
  • Members
  • 28 738 messages

Any act you choose to do is a selfish act. You are, fundamentally, doing it because you want to. That's why you chose it.

Selfishness is a universal consequence of free will.


And biology has developed quite selfish rationales even for ostensibly noble impulses such as self-sacrifice.
  • Sylvius the Mad aime ceci

#541
robertthebard

robertthebard
  • Members
  • 6 108 messages

Trolling aside... When I enslave you, I'll wave this post in your face.  B)
 
 

 
Seriously, where did this weird, unsupported idea that the Reapers ever got to another galaxy come from???

 
 
And yes, as somebody said upstream... Turns out this thread has to a point disappointed me too; when people in 2015 actually says colonization  and even conquest is okay...


So colonizing Mars will be bad for whom? Seriously, I get it, we all know that those evil humans will be exploiting all that lack of air to breathe to no end when/if we ever get there, right?
  • Natureguy85, Seboist et X Equestris aiment ceci

#542
Blackguard

Blackguard
  • Members
  • 93 messages

There is no "good" and "bad", there is only "weak" and "strong".

 

(by the way, i would really like to play a Krogan)


  • Seboist aime ceci

#543
Medhia_Nox

Medhia_Nox
  • Members
  • 3 530 messages

@Syvlius the Mad:  Are you seriously telling me you don't know the difference between a largely self-serving act... and an act that garners the only reward of you feeling good about the act?  You draw no distinction between the two?  

 

I feel like this argument is just an excuse to not bother doing anything that inconveniences you.

 

"Oh, I don't work at the soup kitchen because it's just a selfish act that makes me feel better."  Sounds like pitiful reasoning to me. 


  • Sylvius the Mad aime ceci

#544
Zatche

Zatche
  • Members
  • 1 222 messages

Sure, but change Breaking Bad to be about a guy engaging in crime so he can live in the lap of luxury before he succumbs to cancer and you get a very different show. And in all likelihood a considerably less sympathetic villain. And if you remove the cancer part too, well then he's just an ******* and I don't think anyone will feel the slightest pity for him.

Maybe off topic, but for the record, if you exchange "live in a lap of luxury" with "repair his damaged pride", that description of the show is actually more accurate.

Spoiler


#545
Medhia_Nox

Medhia_Nox
  • Members
  • 3 530 messages

@Blackguard:  I think what I would consider 'weak' and 'strong' would be very different than what you do.



#546
Blackguard

Blackguard
  • Members
  • 93 messages

@Blackguard:  I think what I would consider 'weak' and 'strong' would be very different than what you do.

 

Isn't it great, how much diversity exist in the universe? :)



#547
Medhia_Nox

Medhia_Nox
  • Members
  • 3 530 messages

@Blackguard:  Not the response I was expecting to be honest.  Yes, it is quite great.  



#548
Boost32

Boost32
  • Members
  • 3 352 messages

@Blackguard:  I think what I would consider 'weak' and 'strong' would be very different than what you do.

Its very simple.
Do you have the power to enforce your view to the others? Then you are strong.
Your only options is to die or submit? Then you are weak.

#549
Blackguard

Blackguard
  • Members
  • 93 messages

@Blackguard:  Not the response I was expecting to be honest.

 

I am an unpredictable old scoundrel.



#550
Computron2000

Computron2000
  • Members
  • 4 983 messages

Its very simple.
Do you have the power to enforce your view to the others? Then you are strong.
Your only options is to die or submit? Then you are weak.

 

So Mr Muscle lands on a deserted island with a group of 3. He tells them everyone must do as he says or he will beat them up. Mr Ranger ignores him and goes off on his own. Mr Engineer and Ms Botanist tells him to **** off and they run off together. 

 

Three days later, Mr Muscle is dying of thirst. He sees Mr Ranger (who is perfectly fine) fishing and tries to grab him to force him to give him water. Mr Ranger simply throws a crab at him and runs off. Since Mr Muscle cannot track anything, he gives up. Later he finds Mr Engineer and Ms Botanist near a makeshift shelter with a dew collector. He succeeds in grabbing them and tells him to give him water as he does not know what is a dew collector. Ms Botanist sets up the collector and gives him water after an hour. Mr Muscle dies from the odourless plant poison Ms Botanist put in his water.

 

Who is strong? Mr Muscle who could force his views onto others?

 

Strength is measured in various ways and one who is strong in one situation is a useless weakling in another