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A hand held crossbow that makes perfect sense in the lore, has a good combat mechanic going for it, and comes off as something that could be perfectly functional as an ability in the SP game. I can solo a routine match with it, and I'm sure a better player than I could solo a threatening one. It's a good mechanic. 

 

Why does this hand held crossbow, operated by someone who's canonically working with the Inquisition, have a weapon that my Inquisitor cannot get her hands on?

 

Or build herself, since she's supposed to be an Artificer.

 

I'd like for there to be something included in DLC content that lets my PC have a crossbow, even if it's not an actual crossbow in her inventory, but just an ability she can use that works similarly to Isabela's in the MP.

 


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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

You deserve that thing.  I'm sorry they won't give it to you.


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They had Crossbows in DA:O, why did they remove them? :( Also Varric walking around with his and just taunting us. 


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You love crossbows do you?



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They had Crossbows in DA:O, why did they remove them? :( Also Varric walking around with his and just taunting us. 

 

Indeed he is. Skyrim had to add them because people whined so much, if anything DA:I being 'more like Skyrim' should have meant crossbows. 



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A hand held crossbow that makes perfect sense in the lore, has a good combat mechanic going for it, and comes off as something that could be perfectly functional as an ability in the SP game. I can solo a routine match with it, and I'm sure a better player than I could solo a threatening one. It's a good mechanic.

Why does this hand held crossbow, operated by someone who's canonically working with the Inquisition, have a weapon that my Inquisitor cannot get her hands on?

Or build herself, since she's supposed to be an Artificer.

I'd like for there to be something included in DLC content that lets my PC have a crossbow, even if it's not an actual crossbow in her inventory, but just an ability she can use that works similarly to Isabela's in the MP.


Ahem. Isabela is a Duelist because Duelists are the best :P

For cereal though, I could get behind having something akin to her crossbow pistol even if it's only from an ability like Bolt.

That said if crossbows were reintroduced at some point in the series, I pray to jeebus that they're actually useful this time since they were always badly outshined by longbows.
Come to think of it, I'm struggling to remember a game where crossbows were at least on par with bows.

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Ahem. Isabela is a Duelist because Duelists are the best :P

For cereal though, I could get behind having something akin to her crossbow pistol even if it's only from an ability like Bolt.

That said if crossbows were reintroduced at some point in the series, I pray to jeebus that they're actually useful this time since they were always badly outshined by longbows.
Come to think of it, I'm struggling to remember a game where crossbows were at least on par with bows.

 

Crossbows being inferior in games is a consistent thing across the board, even in table top games the maximum damage for a longbow beats out a crossbow by several dice. The reason being is it takes an amazing amount of training to properly handle a longbow, where as even the vast majority of middle age peasants could successfully wield a crossbow. 

 

I would say a crossbow would however have a defined advantage over a bow in terms of base armor penetration because its a machine assisted weapon, unless you're including the various types of ammunition a bow can be used with such as bodkin point arrows or the type of bow in question, such as the Welsh longbow. 



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Ahem. Isabela is a Duelist because Duelists are the best :P

For cereal though, I could get behind having something akin to her crossbow pistol even if it's only from an ability like Bolt.

That said if crossbows were reintroduced at some point in the series, I pray to jeebus that they're actually useful this time since they were always badly outshined by longbows.
Come to think of it, I'm struggling to remember a game where crossbows were at least on par with bows.

 

 

I meant that my Inquisitor is an artificer, and so she should be able to build a basic crossbow. 

 

I give you my solemn vow that I will never forget that Isabela, in all her glory, is a duelist.  :P

 

As for it's functionality, I have hope, but it wouldn't take perfection to satisfy me. I just want one. 



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I meant that my Inquisitor is an artificer, and so she should be able to build a basic crossbow.

I give you my solemn vow that I will never forget that Isabela, in all her glory, is a duelist. :P

As for it's functionality, I have hope, but it wouldn't take perfection to satisfy me. I just want one.


Fair enough. I've still got my fingers crossed for spears.

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You love crossbows do you?


Yes! :)
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Indeed he is. Skyrim had to add them because people whined so much, if anything DA:I being 'more like Skyrim' should have meant crossbows. 

And they added them for context with the story. Hunt vampires with crossbow? Yeah i have seen that before. Which is why you should be able to use one as Artificer in DA:I aswell. Actually having specific weapons for specializations would be awesome.


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And they added them for context with the story. Hunt vampires with crossbow? Yeah i have seen that before. Which is why you should be able to use one as Artificer in DA:I aswell. Actually having specific weapons for specializations would be awesome.

 

Yes, they had to have context to add them because the Elder Scrolls had one spot before Dawnguard and then removed them, they were in Morrowind and then poofed from existence. We had crossbows in Dragon Age:Origins, and then in DA 2 they somehow got limited specifically to Varric so he could be a special snowflake. 

 

Its the same problem as breaking down the weapon groups based on class, I felt so very underwhelmed when my Warrior was forced into "Column A" and "Column B" for his weapon choices. A knight in most cultures learned how to use: the longsword, mace, ax, lance, bow, crossbow, most two handed weapons, and the shield. In some he would learn traditional fighting stances that used a buckler, a cloak or a secondary weapon for dueling purposes. He however wasn't strictly limited because knights in the crusades were from all walks of life and got trained in a superfluous amount of weapons.  Even when you do the spread across to the Asian culture: The Samurai learned the Katana, Wakizashi, Tanto, Spear and the Bow. Dual wielding in that culture is a manifestation of the teachings of Musashi, but it did become wider spread after his death. 

 

As for Rogues, if you were to put them in a historical perspective you'd probably have more of a peasant, bandit or deposed noble as a rogue in which case you could have the following possibilities with a peasant in mind: Crossbow, farming implements such as a sickle or an ax, a spear, a bow (possibly), sometimes the sword and probably at least a basic knowledge of a shield. The deposed noble has a few historical examples but tends to be in historical fictions or fantasy, their weapon knowledge would have roughly the same berth as a knight.  

 

TL:DR We had crossbows before and there's plenty of spots where it shouldn't be a weapon limited by class, even if all classes don't make the best use of them.


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Well like I said the MP could be testing out new mechanics for future DLCs and future games

 

Though I kinda doubt the Inquisitor will get some of them 



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Fair enough. I've still got my fingers crossed for spears.

After the amount of spears that were present in the books, I was really surprised that Inquisition didn't include them.



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After the amount of spears that were present in the books, I was really surprised that Inquisition didn't include them.

 

My guess is animation 



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Being able to craft crossbows would make sense. Varric has a crossbow and everyone sees it every day. Surely someone would have considered more crossbows to be a nice thing to have.


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Well like I said the MP could be testing out new mechanics for future DLCs and future games

 

Though I kinda doubt the Inquisitor will get some of them 

 

Ares.

 

Don't jinx it.  :P

 

I still have hope.