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#226
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It's funny how people asking for female qunari or dwarf are not social justice, but anything else need to be social justice just because other people asking for it. It's not even about asking for equality, just a request for a feature. People throw that word around so much it loses all meaning. 

 

The definition of a "Social Justice Warrior" is a pejorative term for a person expressing or promoting socially progressive views: it's criteria is sometimes a person using social arguments and claiming progressive views to raise their personal reputation, sometimes a person who want to apply their politically correct standards and rules to others' speech and sometimes the criteria is simply someone expressing or promoting a socially progressive view. That's the more official definitions I could find, there are more unofficial definitions. It remains a pejorative or informal term as far as I can tell.

 

When someone accuses someone else of fitting the criteria of a social justice warrior, the accused has to ask which criteria because there are so many and some people have their personal definitions of what constitute a social justice warrior.

 

I consider it so silly that people may as well be accusing each of having a cake agenda or being a cake warrior because it requires the same amount of explaination as to how and why the person is applying it to someone else.

 

"Cake Warrior", incidentally, would also be a neat title for a cooking show or culinary contest.


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I don't think so.

 

Thank you, I do not have the Omega DLC so I could not see for myself. I'm thinking of adding the scene to my example list of auto-actions that I see as causing potential conflict with characterization. I need to check up a bit more about it first, though.
 



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It's funny how people asking for female qunari or dwarf or Liara's baby are not social justice, but anything else need to be social justice just because other people are asking for it. It's not even about asking for equality or how unfair it is, just a request for a feature. People throw that word around so much it loses all meaning. If you try to be clever or funny, maybe you need to come up with something new or maybe you should learn the meaning of that word first. 

Yes social justice warrior doesn't have a meaning anymore. Just getting so tired of people just labeling wanting gay romances as being SJW .


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Yes social justice warrior doesn't have a meaning anymore. Just getting so tired of people just labeling wanting gay romances as being SJW .

I mean, at this point, they have already confirmed there will be gay romances in the game. This is more just a request of what people may want that gay option to be, so it's not even fighting for any "Social Justice", more like a request of what people may want as an option we may have for the romance. I don't even know how this thread could even be twisted into that direction, but I guess people just label whatever they disagree with as social justice or disgust with it instead of just ignoring it. 


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To be fair, those who are not into females wouldn't care how many straight female Shepard can bang, just like the excessive lesbian options for female Shepard vs straight Shepard. Ninjamance is normal, but Cortez is the only option with that amount of excessive checks. Kaidan only has the confrontation scene, otherwise, his romance is pretty angst free, and romantic. 

 

Then again regardless of preferred sexuality, BroShep still have his privilege of being the face of the franchise and didn't have his romances killed off in bulk as the default gameplay. Honestly, the Asari LI's pansexuality and Kelly & Allers bisexuality was hardly embellished in the trilogy and their preference to FemShep seem to pander to juvenile curiosity. Only Traynor was genuinely attracted to FemShep as a woman instead of Shepard-sexual as the rest.


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Then again regardless of preferred sexuality, BroShep still have his privilege of being the face of the franchise and didn't have his romances killed off in bulk as the default gameplay. Honestly, the Asari LI's pansexuality and Kelly & Allers bisexuality was hardly embellished in the trilogy and their preference to FemShep seem to pander to juvenile curiosity. Only Traynor was genuinely attracted to FemShep as a woman instead of Shepard-sexual as the rest.

I honestly could care less about how many female options maleShep have since it has no relation with me. What applies to straight Shep has no relation to gay Shep since the targeted people are different.The game does have its target audience. DAI and Me3 are basically on polar opposite in how they handle romances in general. This is a new team, so whatever they decide to do, we have to judge it going forward anyway. This is also getting off-topic though. Let's just get back to topic. 



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I honestly could care less about how many female options maleShep have since it has no relation with me. What applies to straight Shep has no relation to gay Shep since the targeted people are different.The game does have its target audience. DAI and Me3 are basically on polar opposite in how they handle romances in general. This is a new team, so whatever they decide to do, we have to judge it going forward anyway. This is also getting off-topic though. Let's just get back to topic. 

 

And yet even if you're not interested in the females because they carry no significance to your sexual preference, but you're using Kaidan as an example of preferred romantic gay romance when he himself is a bisexual character who was written primarily as the female's love interest who was also attracted to Asari. Kaidan's preference to men are exclusive only to Shepard and not other men unlike Cortez and Dorian. Shouldn't the title be "more bisexual alien romances" instead?



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You are quoting wrong guy sweetie.
 
Deadpool would hit anything with hole, so if you gonna quote Wade then you gotta be Wade and do it in Wade style when there fans demand something...
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That was a quote from the movie :)

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And yet even if you're not interested in the females because they carry no significance to your sexual preference, but you're using Kaidan as an example of preferred romantic gay romance when he himself is a bisexual character who was written primarily as the female's love interest who was also attracted to Asari. Kaidan's preference to men are exclusive only to Shepard and not other men unlike Cortez and Dorian. Shouldn't the title be "more bisexual alien romances" instead?

I was talking about gay relationships because that's the purpose of this thread. His relationship is well written which I hope to see more to be written like him. To be honestly, bisexual or gay has no relevant to me, as long as I can romance them and their scenes do not get cut off. If the bi option is equal for both gender, then I'm fine with it because the straight part has no relevant in how much I can get out of the gay part when playing. Basically, I like the option is gay, but I wouldn't mind if it happens to be bi, as long as it's not inferior to the other like with femShep. 



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Honestly, people are so nitpicky with words here.  It's why I usually say m/m romance.  This way, I can't have some contrarian pop in to say, "Well actually Iron Bull is pansexual so he wouldn't count gay or bisexual......"  It just covers all of the bases. 

 

The point of this thread, as I understood it, wasn't that the alien had to be gay per se.  Just that he had to be available to the male PC.  The same way that Kaidan, regardless of his sexuality, is available for male Shep.

 

And, for what it's worth, I'm still in favor of it.  And my vote still goes for Quarian first (but my heart goes to Krogan, the reptilian 'bears' of the ME universe).


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I wonder if they could figure out a way to do an alien heterosexual male who sexually experiments with a male PC and falls for him storyline. That would actually be kind of rad if they could execute it properly.

 

That'd be the one time something that was adjacent to "player sexual" would not make me want to gag.



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I haven't read through the entire thread so apologies if I'm repeating a point.

 

For me, I would prefer that if there is a homosexual and a bisexual male LI available, the homosexual one is human. If the bisexual one is an alien, fine, if it's also human, fine. I just don't want the (most likely) only visible homosexual male in the Andromeda galaxy to be an alien. Because the way it works, the only gay males in the game are either LIs or comedy relief (Wade and Herren) or past lovers of the LIs. There are no gay men who just exist to be people and not a LI for the PC. So I'd really like the one homosexual man to be human.


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The thread title (gaylien) made me think this was going to be a request for a species that was an all male version of the Asari. I'm relieved that my first impression was wrong. Reproduction is kinda important... :D

 

Anyway, I think the devs should give the gay players an alien LI this time around since there were none in the Shepard trilogy. A male Quarian would probably make the most sense.

 

This might be an unpopular opinion among some here, but I think Bioware should limit the LIs to humans or near-human species, regardless of gender preference

I agree, but I fear they may go with a krogan romance; the Garrus/turian-male romance success being an indicator that many fans will be fine with it. That is, assuming Drack is a romance option and is also as popular as Garrus was for fans to overcome the horrors krogan anatomy would inflict on their protagonist's body. As I understand it, krogan pack a ton more heft than turians, and are probably not as gentle, if you can call a turian's metallic exoskeleton and sharp claws and dagger-like teeth gentle. :?

 

But some a-whole-lot of people are into that sort of thing...

 

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^From 2010

 

Noted in ME3 by Jack...the writers were listening to the fans (a brutal turian love bite is fancanon/now canon)...

 

 

I wonder what's gonna be the new popular fanfiction for krogan love. Probably being confined to a wheel chair afterward.



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I wonder what's gonna be the new popular fanfiction for krogan love. Probably being confined to a wheel chair afterward.

 

Ugh, humans are so squishy, where you suppose to get a decent grip?



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Extraterrestrial Social Justice.

 

Well, Sci-fi is about looking ahead.

So I'm a SJW for wanting a piece of some sweet Salarian cloaca? 

 

Totally up for a Gaylarian romance in Andromeda. They have... flexibility. 



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Ugh, humans are so squishy, where you suppose to get a decent grip?

Some human parts get longer and more hard if you touch them.

 

Think of it as an organic stick-shift.


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I haven't read through the entire thread so apologies if I'm repeating a point.

 

For me, I would prefer that if there is a homosexual and a bisexual male LI available, the homosexual one is human. If the bisexual one is an alien, fine, if it's also human, fine. I just don't want the (most likely) only visible homosexual male in the Andromeda galaxy to be an alien. Because the way it works, the only gay males in the game are either LIs or comedy relief (Wade and Herren) or past lovers of the LIs. There are no gay men who just exist to be people and not a LI for the PC. So I'd really like the one homosexual man to be human.

 

Tell that to people who got Tali locked away for femShep, tell that to people who got Garrus locked for broShep.

 

So if there were "Locked out of romance because they are hetero" I don't see where is issue with having 1-2 that are pure homosexuals. They still can be romanced by PC, you just have to play gender they prefer, simple. 

 

Besides for anyone not knowing to name one gay alien(besides Asari ones) then all seem to forgot 'Captain Gavorn' in here(I smell Vorcha memes incoming regarding this). So gaylien ain't nothing new  ;)



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I don't mind what they are but I would really appreciate it if I have more than one human to romance. If I get that, then others can get all the gayliens they desire. I just want more than one choice, especially if I plan on replaying the game, which I do. I'm not into Garrus look a like aliens, I want HUMANS. 



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Tell that to people who got Tali locked away for femShep, tell that to people who got Garrus locked for broShep.

 

So if there were "Locked out of romance because they are hetero" I don't see where is issue with having 1-2 that are pure homosexuals. They still can be romanced by PC, you just have to play gender they prefer, simple. 

 

Besides for anyone not knowing to name one gay alien(besides Asari ones) then all seem to forgot 'Captain Gavorn' in here(I smell Vorcha memes incoming regarding this). So gaylien ain't nothing new  ;)

I wish there would have been a little nod or something more about the Captain Gavorn/unknown human male in the Omega DLC, like maybe they died together fighting Cerberus or joined the talons, or just anything about Gavorn in general, etc. The Shadow broker had gathered intel on Gavorn and his human male guest in the bedroom, but it was never elaborated who said human was or why he was important to that scene. I guess it was the impending situation that had the SB's attention. Gavorn must have been doing something scandalous  :P .



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I wish there would have been a little nod or something more about the Captain Gavorn/unknown human male in the Omega DLC, like maybe they died together fighting Cerberus or joined the talons, or just anything about Gavorn in general, etc. The Shadow broker had gathered intel on Gavorn and his human male guest in the bedroom, but it was never elaborated who said human was or why he was important to that scene. I guess it was the impending situation that had the SB's attention. Gavorn must have been doing something scandalous  :P .

 

Hmmm...no vorcha meme about it, one moment:

 

Vorcha: "TELL GAVRON WE HAVE NO SEX WITH HIM TODAY!"

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I don't mind what they are but I would really appreciate it if I have more than one human to romance. If I get that, then others can get all the gayliens they desire. I just want more than one choice, especially if I plan on replaying the game, which I do. I'm not into Garrus look a like aliens, I want HUMANS. 

I don't know... Have you ever seen that bird man with his armor off? He knows how to get freaky in bed... He'll do some "calibrations" on you, if you catch my drift.


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I don't know... Have you ever seen that bird man with his armor off? He knows how to get freaky in bed... He'll do some "calibrations" on you, if you catch my drift.


Heeeey..... how do YOU know?...... :P

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What if there are no gay aliens, and humans are the only exception?



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What if there are no gay aliens, and humans are the only exception?

There already are (Aria is female and is not interested in males at all), but we have not had a romance as such yet, thus the request. Gavorn is probably gay.



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What if there are no gay aliens, and humans are the only exception?

Sad day for gay guys who fantasize over aliens............


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