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[The Elder King]

I have a feeling that they may take DAO approach, 1 straight character and a bi character for each gender. Basically, we're stuck with one option once again. There's "set" sexuality in that sense, but then, the only one benefit from it are the straight audience. They can romance everyone while have their "set" sexuality. It's like having their cake and eat it, too.

Bioware, from DA2, always tried to give more then one choices to people who want to pursue a non-heterosexual LI. ME3 (with the problem of Kaidan being possibly dead) has two LI for gay and lesbians. Same goes for DAI. I honestly don't see any indication that Bioware would regress on their stance.

While it's true that many criticized the many LI in DAI, it should be noted that the game had eight due to the year extension, and the added LI were for straight women. They started our with the 6, 2/2/2 approach. Considering the recent history of LI in ME, I think it's a good possiblity they'll follow the latter route.

[Jedi Comedian]

^ I wouldn't mind if they went the DAO route (could've worked perfectly in ME3: Ash/Vega (Straight) and Kaidan/Liara (bi)). What I do want is those LI's to be interesting and meaningful.

[Battlebloodmage]

Bioware, from DA2, always tried to give more then one choices to people who want to pursue a non-heterosexual LI. ME3 (with the problem of Kaidan being possibly dead) has two LI for gay and lesbians. Same goes for DAI. I honestly don't see any indication that Bioware would regress on their stance.

While it's true that many criticized the many LI in DAI, it should be noted that the game had eight due to the year extension, and the added LI were for straight women. They started our with the 6, 2/2/2 approach. Considering the recent history of LI in ME, I think it's a good possiblity they'll follow the latter route.

6 would be ideal. Although to be fair, Star Wars The Old Republic didn't have one single gay LI when launched. Yeah, I hope that is what we ended up with. I'm just a bit convoluted when a lot of straight guys complained about all bi approach, then complained about too many gay and bi, and then complain about not having enough options. It seems like what they prefer is to have 1 single bi option for the gay/bi players and have as many options as possible for themselves, so there's set sexuality with that one bi/gay characters, and the rest of the LIs are straight because "realism" in a fantasy fictional game. 

 

DAI is more liberal than other Bioware games, so that's to be expected. Even when they're all Bioware team members, each team has a different way of approaching the audience. Just because DA team did it doesn't mean ME team will also do it, to be fair. ME didn't have any gay romance until ME3 after, and it was a pretty poorly copy and paste job from the straight femShep with Kaidan. As I said before, ME team has gotten better, so I don't judge the next ME based on either Dragon Age team or ME trilogy. I treat the ME4 as a brand new entry, and how they set up the options are pretty unknown at this point. 

[Battlebloodmage]

^ I wouldn't mind if they went the DAO route (could've worked perfectly in ME3: Ash/Vega (Straight) and Kaidan/Liara (bi)). What I do want is those LI's to be interesting and meaningful.

I wouldn't. Let's assume all these characters are brand new. Why couldn't Ash/Vega (straight and Kaidan/Liara (gay) or Ash/Vega (gay), Kaidan/Liara (bi)? why are the straight people automatically get all the options while gays gets stuck with just one? As I said, it's a way of having your cake and eat it, too. Having set sexuality while having access to all the LIs, the ones getting the short end of the stick would be the gay people. I haven't seen that many if any gay people complain about the all bi approach, they were just happy that they have more than one option to choose from. 

[The Elder King]

6 would be ideal. Although to be fair, Star Wars The Old Republic didn't have one single gay LI when launched. Yeah, I hope that is what we ended up with. I'm just a bit convoluted when a lot of straight guys complained about all bi approach, then complained about too many gay and bi, and then complain about not having enough options. It seems like what they prefer is to have 1 single bi option for the gay/bi players and have as many options as possible for themselves, so there's set sexuality with that one bi/gay characters, and the rest of the LIs are straight because "realism" in a fantasy fictional game. 

 

DAI is more liberal than other Bioware games, so that's to be expected. Even when they're all Bioware team members, each team has a different way of approaching the audience. Just because DA team did it doesn't mean ME team will also do it, to be fair. ME didn't have any gay romance until ME3 after, and it was a pretty poorly copy and paste job from the straight femShep with Kaidan. As I said before, ME team has gotten better, so I don't judge the next ME based on either Dragon Age team or ME trilogy. I treat the ME4 as a brand new entry, and how they set up the options are pretty unknown at this point. 

You're right about TOR. I don't generally count for both its different nature and a completely different team (ME and DA do share a lot of devs that switch between development, and some guys left for Montreal as well).

 

 

My point on seeing the ME team change is more of the different things said by some devs during the years, which changed a lot between the first game and this point. I mean, the even said Liara wasn't really bisexual because she's an alien at one point (I think it was before ME2).

 

It is true that the teams are different, but ME3 was a turning point, compared to the previous games in the series (keep in mind that ME2 wen full on with 6 straight romances, and one minor in term of quantity of writing, bisexual). i just think that given Bioware's recent stance it's not that far-fetched to assume a more equal treatment this time, though it might be better to be cautious.

[The Elder King]

^ I wouldn't mind if they went the DAO route (could've worked perfectly in ME3: Ash/Vega (Straight) and Kaidan/Liara (bi)). What I do want is those LI's to be interesting and meaningful.

In terms of 'minding' I absolutely don't care if all the romances are homosexual, and I'm a straight male.

It doesn't change the fact that I think giving choices to everyone is a better way to do it. 

[Seraphim24]

Sadly all this makes me more certain that the chances of all romanceable characters in Andromeda being bisexual so as to be inclusive of all sexual orientations, rather slim.

People would probably readily accept a straight or gay LI. But a LI who you initially presume straight, then suddenly find out opposite genders can romance them too in a separate play through?

I fear that would generate more backlash than the inevitable backlash to there being gay LI in the first place.

 

I think the reason this is unnecessarily complicated is most people (I'd gander) who identify as gay or bisexual leaning or (ahem, the beyond) or something thereabouts are actually somewhat indifferent, I know for myself I tend to play as either gender and then (not a fan of romances, but if it's in the game) romance basically whoever seems the most appealing. While ME3 Kaidan and Cassandra don't have the same "sexuality" as.. I don't know.. Sera or even Iron Bull.. I just treat their kind of core personality as the driver regardless of the labels (thus I would go for Kaidan and/or Cassandra, in this.. ME/DA mash up game)

 

The absence or inclusion of this or that specific option hardly registers a glance, otherwise I would not have played any Bioware games starting with BG1... 

 

I think Bioware (or whatever this company is now) should just relax and however they deal with the issue will be satisfactory enough... the people who rail hardest about the "options" or lack thereof probably don't even identity as anything different and are more just attracted to whatever drama the situation provides. 

[ModernAcademic]

After I watched The Normal Heart and read Le Bleu Est Une Couleur Chaude, I really wish there could be true gay romances in ME, and not just with humans.

 

Gay people suffer a lot of stupid prejudice. I may not be gay, but even being what society labels a "normal" woman - and it's funny how people can assume the way I look could possibly have anything to do with the way I think and feel -, I suffered prejudice for no reason than people's need to hate someone else for some reason. So I see how an individual that's targeted by society has to put up with a lot of absurdities in the kind of society we live in.

 

The future is supposed to be better than this. I hope Andromeda takes a step forward in that direction.

[Prince Enigmatic]

After I watched The Normal Heart and read Le Bleu Est Une Couleur Chaude, I really wish there could be true gay romances in ME, and not just with humans.

 

Gay people suffer a lot of stupid prejudice. I may not be gay, but even being what society labels a "normal" woman - and it's funny how people can assume the way I look could possibly have anything to do with the way I think and feel -, I suffered prejudice for no reason than people's need to hate someone else for some reason. So I see how an individual that's targeted by society has to put up with a lot of absurdities in the kind of society we live in.

 

The future is supposed to be better than this. I hope Andromeda takes a step forward in that direction.

 

The Normal Heart was a really well made film, I cried a hell of a lot watching it though, and it would be nice for there to be more options and a significant step forward in Andromeda, hopefully.

[Jedi Comedian]

What if we had an uneven LI list like in Jade Empire, with a str8 female, 1 bi male and 1 bi female (obviously with no "fade to black" nonesense)? Or like BG EE, with 1 str8 male, 1 str8 female, 1bi male and 1 gay female? What do you guys think?

Oh and bi romances should have exclusive dialogue/content/animations for each gender.

[Battlebloodmage]

What if we had an uneven LI list like in Jade Empire, with a str8 female, 1 bi male and 1 bi female (obviously with no "fade to black" nonesense)? Or like BG EE, with 1 str8 male, 1 str8 female, 1bi male and 1 gay female? What do you guys think?

Oh and bi romances should have exclusive dialogue/content/animations for each gender.

Why are you so adamant with 1 straight and 1 bi anyway? If there are only 4 options, they should all be bis. 6 is the minimum if they want to do set sexuality where everyone has at least 2 choices. 

[Dalinne]

What if we had an uneven LI list like in Jade Empire, with a str8 female, 1 bi male and 1 bi female (obviously with no "fade to black" nonesense)? Or like BG EE, with 1 str8 male, 1 str8 female, 1bi male and 1 gay female? What do you guys think?

Oh and bi romances should have exclusive dialogue/content/animations for each gender.

 

That way only benefits bisexual PCs and straight females PC because they can decide who to romance between at least two options. However,  straight male PC, lesbian PC and gay PC only have one option). 

[Jedi Comedian]

Why are you so adamant with 1 straight and 1 bi anyway? If there are only 4 options, they should all be bis. 6 is the minimum if they want to do set sexuality where everyone has at least 2 choices.

I wouldn't say no to 2 straight/2 gay, which has never been done before, by the way.

[Panda]

I wouldn't say no to 2 straight/2 gay, which has never been done before, by the way.

 

I like having options personally, that would just mean 1-2 options for character depending if you make your character straight/gay or bi. 6 LI's is pretty much mininum amount for me in terms of having good pool of LI's in game. I want some diversity and options

[-leadintea-]

I wouldn't say no to 2 straight/2 gay, which has never been done before, by the way.

 

I'd honestly prefer this to all bis. Having 6 LI plus extras would still be my most preferred way to go about romances but if they had to only make 4 LIs, I'd rather have 2 straight and 2 gay romances.

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

After I watched The Normal Heart and read Le Bleu Est Une Couleur Chaude, I really wish there could be true gay romances in ME, and not just with humans.
 
Gay people suffer a lot of stupid prejudice. I may not be gay, but even being what society labels a "normal" woman - and it's funny how people can assume the way I look could possibly have anything to do with the way I think and feel -, I suffered prejudice for no reason than people's need to hate someone else for some reason. So I see how an individual that's targeted by society has to put up with a lot of absurdities in the kind of society we live in.
 
The future is supposed to be better than this. I hope Andromeda takes a step forward in that direction.

I don't understand what the big deal about people being gay anyways, I mean who gives a damn? They have every right to act out their nature to love and pursue people who are the same sex, who am I to decide where they should be with someone their not attracted to? It's a free world for Pete's sake!

[Scarlett]

hum............. a thought I would like to share about a mechanism I would love to see one day for the LI.

If the character you love is straight and same sex than you (for example if my female character loves a female -turian XD- straight character who logically won't return the feeling): what about having the possibility to make him/her feel something for you little by little, depending on your actions during the game and the person decide to be ? You won't success if, for example, the character dislikes your actions, if you're too insistent with him/her especially after he/she rejected your love at first (better way to make them angry or running away from you for good) etc... but you can also have a small % to deeply moved them and make them fall in love with you.

I think it could be a really beautiful relationship, built with some real efforts.

 

I don't want them to become gay or bi all of a sudden (it would be totally ridiculous), my point is that they start to see YOU differently, time after time, observing you, liking you, and finally have feelings for you.

[SagaX]

Looks like some gay guys have a fetish with anime tentacle monsters XD LOL

Hope Bioware gives you for MEA its equivalent to IronBull XDDDDD

[Dalinne]

Looks like some gay guys have a fetish with anime tentacle monsters XD LOL

Hope Bioware gives you for MEA its equivalent to IronBull XDDDDD

 

YES! KROGAN FOR LOVE INTEREST!!!

[Jedi Comedian]

Looks like some gay guys have a fetish with anime tentacle monsters XD LOL
Hope Bioware gives you for MEA its equivalent to IronBull XDDDDD

No, just no.

I'll start puking now.

[Battlebloodmage]

hum............. a thought I would like to share about a mechanism I would love to see one day for the LI.

If the character you love is straight and same sex than you (for example if my female character loves a female -turian XD- straight character who logically won't return the feeling): what about having the possibility to make him/her feel something for you little by little, depending on your actions during the game and the person decide to be ? You won't success if, for example, the character dislikes your actions, if you're too insistent with him/her especially after he/she rejected your love at first (better way to make them angry or running away from you for good) etc... but you can also have a small % to deeply moved them and make them fall in love with you.

I think it could be a really beautiful relationship, built with some real efforts.

 

I don't want them to become gay or bi all of a sudden (it would be totally ridiculous), my point is that they start to see YOU differently, time after time, observing you, liking you, and finally have feelings for you.

I kinda like how Cassandra was a bit cautious, and actually give negative disapproval if you hit on her. There are people that are bi-curious or didn't realize their sexuality until the right person comes along. It happens in real life all the time, but it just didn't get enough attention since some may see it as "choosing" to be gay. I believe in the Kinsey scale, some are just more likely to be gay or straight than the others. Some could be completely straight. For a bi character who is more straight leaning, they may not engage or even flirt with any of the same sex. If they actually want to make believable bi characters, instead of playsexual, then certain bi characters should have different scenes and different reactions based on the gender. For example, the bisexual guy may be nervous and blush around the girl, but when it comes to another guy, he may treat him with more confident and more friend, bro-like attitude that later turn into love. The relationship dynamic is never explored in any of the bisexual characters ever. It's usually just much easier to save resource by making the same scenes with the exact same dialogue for both genders. 

[Battlebloodmage]

Looks like some gay guys have a fetish with anime tentacle monsters XD LOL

Hope Bioware gives you for MEA its equivalent to IronBull XDDDDD

God no, I'll punch a bunny if they give us another slutty bisexual character once again.

 

 

Almost all the canon bisexual characters are promiscuous. I want more romance and love, something that gay romance often lack in Bioware games. 

[Jedi Comedian]

if they give us another slutty bisexual character

If they give us another Oberyn (Iron Bull) I shall smash his head in (I guess the ME equivalent could be Biotic Charge).

[The Elder King]

God no, I'll punch a bunny if they give us another slutty bisexual character once again.

 

 

Almost all the canon bisexual characters are promiscuous. I want more romance and love, something that gay romance often lack in Bioware games. 

Iron Bull isn't bisexual though, he's pansexual. Josephine is bisexual. And in DA the male bisexual LI, even if you want to count IB, are him, Zevran, Anders and Fenris. Half of them aren't promiscuous.

Though for you point, yes, it'd be better if they don't make it the male romance available to both genders promiscuous.

[BaaBaaBlacksheep]

For promiscuous characters create a brothel to solve both problems @ once. Win-win.