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#176
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I recently replayed ME1 with a colonist background. It is absolutely impossible for me to look at Batarians as anything other than space nazis. You'd need a batarian that so incredibly rejects and loathes everything about Batarian culture that it would be one in name only for me to even marginally overcome my disgust at everything that race represents. 

I felt this way too - my first and so far only Shepard came from colonist background - until I saw improved alien animations in ME3. Batarians now had eyes that could express emotions. Too bad the story didn't explore further how much individuality and empathy they could actually feel, but at least I was made to think about it. I doubt I'd ever like to have batarian as romantic option, I mean I don't wanna care about looks but apparently still draw the line somewhere, but batarian companion or ally could be interesting, with their human side and flaws and all. Then again I'd still prefer volus or elcoor or hanar or vorcha or a complete newbie as squadmate if I had to choose, as there's probably not room for all. Batarians just don't have a catch to make them as outstanding as some others are.

 

 

Interesting question. I'm less interested in the actual content of the romances themselves and more in could be explored in terms of what cultural attitudes toward gay or lesbian relationships in the alien societies are.

Take krogan for example. For over 1000 years they have lived in a society where men and women don't even live in the same settlements together. I would imagine that same sex relationships would be extremely common as a result, but would they be highly repressed due to the extremely masculine and individualistic krogan culture and thus socially looked down upon? Or would it be more like ancient Greek warrior cultures where it was embraced (at least among members of the same clans) due to fostering camraderie? How different would it be viewed by the typical females, some of whom seem to be similar to the males (Warlord Shiagur) while you have others like Eve referring to other females rather affectionately as their sisters.

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It'd be silly to assume that they are automatically as accepting as humans seem to be in universe given their differing cultural attitudes on other issues. This is a universe where racism/ speciesm seems to be quite rampant, for example, so homophobia could be just as bad.

Since almost all alien races we know have been divided into males and females, aside asaris, genders might have been more or less subconsciously considered something that universally connects us all. Though attitudes had been developing into more open direction by the time of ME3?

 

I say this as someone who would find alien gay cultures pretty interesting topic, so hopefully this won't sound bad, but if anything regarding it would be addressed in the game, I'd suggest it would happen with certain sensitivity. Because if it has been taboo subject in space, the characters would probably prefer safe and comfortable situation to bring it up. And gamers who are not as used to discuss about gay topics openly irl would find it easier not only to avoid but also to approach. For example, many tough and homophobic guys found themselves rooting for Smithers during the early years of The Simpsons, when he was still considered ambiguous mystery character (at least for naiive stupid kids like we were lol). So idk, if we had debatably romantic alien, who does discuss about feelings and cultural hijinx when asked though, you probably could avoid most whines in forums, and gaymers would be happy if the character has sympathetic attitude.

 

Who knows at this point what the universal and local cultures will be like by the time of MEA anyway. Maybe they're become prudent again, or maybe genders won't be a big deal and no one brings them up. I just try to be open to what story Bioware wants to tell me, with or without romances.



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Guys... This thread made me do things I'm not proud of...

But during that dark time, I did manage to find a good m/m Batarian/human fic, so that has to count for something.
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Guys... This thread made me do things I'm not proud of...

But during that dark time, I did manage to find a good m/m Batarian/human fic, so that has to count for something.

 

Why?



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If they think the character will fit in.


I see what you did there.

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Well, I think we're one step closer to the 22nd century, at least here in the United States.  The US Supreme Court just ruled the gay marriage ban as unconstitutional.  All states with a ban against gay marriage must overturn them, since those bans are no longer legal.

 

'Tis a wonderful day.


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Well, I think we're one step closer to the 22nd century, at least here in the United States.  The US Supreme Court just ruled the gay marriage ban as unconstitutional.  All states with a ban against gay marriage must overturn them, since those bans are no longer legal.

 

'Tis a wonderful day.

 

That's quite awesome :D Hopefully same decision here stands as well.


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Well, I think we're one step closer to the 22nd century, at least here in the United States.  The US Supreme Court just ruled the gay marriage ban as unconstitutional.  All states with a ban against gay marriage must overturn them, since those bans are no longer legal.

 

'Tis a wonderful day.

 

And, to tie it back to the thread and not stay too much on real world politics (.... ;)), now hana could make a stronger argument for the marriage option that s/he is asking for regularly, right?  Krogan/Human same sex marriage in ME: A!



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And, to tie it back to the thread and not stay too much on real world politics (.... ;)), now hana could make a stronger argument for the marriage option that s/he is asking for regularly, right?  Krogan/Human same sex marriage in ME: A!

 

I wonder how interspecies marriage would go. Surely gayliens have bit different traditions than humans do.



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Well, would alien relationships be the same thing though? Is there such a thing as a gay alien?

 

i mean, the Asari had the mono-gender thing going. That card can't be played again but is there an alien society that is completely different to how we would view gender roles? Like, can an alien male be considered hermaphoditic to their people if the circumstances call for it or something. I know some animals can change their sex when the need arises, for example.

 

Why not go there and see what happens.



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I never really got our collective need to make everything so 'compatible' with us in fiction. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised though; the Internet and good ole 'Rule 34' right? 

 

Personally, I would prefer more background information and more 'alien' alien squad mates over trying to give players new options to romance. Truth be told, if I had to choose to have only Ashely or Kaiden as romance options, but I got to have a young Rachni Queen as a fully fledged companion with a fully developed character arc, and a plethora of dialog interactions, I would gut the romances every time.

 

 

That being said, I would be more interested in exploring relationships with those aliens that are so different from us humans that any 'conventional' (straight or gay) romance would be impossible. What would a species that only reproduces via spores, or mitosis think of our notions of love and romance? What would the general reaction be if an alien comprised of energy and a human decided to commit to a relationship; one without the possibility of sex? 

 

Those would be the 'romances' I would be interested in. Science-Fiction should be about exploring the unknown, about discovering and uncovering secrets, not about how many Green, or Blue alien chicks/dudes you can bone. (IMO)


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I never really got our collective need to make everything so 'compatible' with us in fiction. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised though; the Internet and good ole 'Rule 34' right? 

 

Personally, I would prefer more background information and more 'alien' alien squad mates over trying to give players new options to romance. Truth be told, if I had to choose to have only Ashely or Kaiden as romance options, but I got to have a young Rachni Queen as a fully fledged companion with a fully developed character arc, and a plethora of dialog interactions, I would gut the romances every time.

 

 

That being said, I would be more interested in exploring relationships with those aliens that are so different from us humans that any 'conventional' (straight or gay) romance would be impossible. What would a species that only reproduces via spores, or mitosis think of our notions of love and romance? What would the general reaction be if an alien comprised of energy and a human decided to commit to a relationship; one without the possibility of sex? 

 

Those would be the 'romances' I would be interested in. Science-Fiction should be about exploring the unknown, about discovering and uncovering secrets, not about how many Green, or Blue alien chicks/dudes you can bone. (IMO)

You can't bone anyone since they're all just video games characters. As with most of the aliens in this game, we don't see any sex scenes and it's just implied. Head-canon, however, is about seeing your character ends up happily with someone, and it's just up to the individual if they see sex as an important aspect of the relationship. Aliens or humans, I just can't imagine my character which represent an aspect of myself to be in an asexual relationship. For me, it's just like having deep bonded friendship. Everyone has their own definition and what they expect in a science fiction, not everyone is the same. It's just a game, so I don't see the need for people to take it too seriously, especially when we're talking about romance fictional races in a video game. 



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Well, would alien relationships be the same thing though? Is there such a thing as a gay alien?

 

i mean, the Asari had the mono-gender thing going. That card can't be played again but is there an alien society that is completely different to how we would view gender roles? Like, can an alien male be considered hermaphoditic to their people if the circumstances call for it or something. I know some animals can change their sex when the need arises, for example.

 

Why not go there and see what happens.

Marvel has the Skrull race which is exactly like that. I wouldn't mind it to be honest. 



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So apparently our squad of 7 will include 1) a female human 2) a male-ish synthetic 3) a male Krogan  and we will likely get 4) an asari 5) and a male human, leaving 2 spots for possible gaylien romances.

 

Thoughts on gay Kroganmance?

 

gay asarimance (an asari with an interest in females only)?

 

gay turian or quarianmance?



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New character,

 

Gayden Alienko


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The thread title (gaylien) made me think this was going to be a request for a species that was an all male version of the Asari. I'm relieved that my first impression was wrong. Reproduction is kinda important... :D

 

Anyway, I think the devs should give the gay players an alien LI this time around since there were none in the Shepard trilogy. A male Quarian would probably make the most sense.

 

This might be an unpopular opinion among some here, but I think Bioware should limit the LIs to humans or near-human species, regardless of gender preference. 



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So apparently our squad of 7 will include 1) a female human 2) a male-ish synthetic 3) a male Krogan  and we will likely get 4) an asari 5) and a male human, leaving 2 spots for possible gaylien romances.

 

Thoughts on gay Kroganmance?

 

gay asarimance (an asari with an interest in females only)?

 

gay turian or quarianmance?

I don' think asari have gender they are not female. And even if they are, wouldn't female/female be normal, and female/male gay.



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The thread title (gaylien) made me think this was going to be a request for a species that was an all male version of the Asari. I'm relieved that my first impression was wrong. Reproduction is kinda important... :D

 

Anyway, I think the devs should give the gay players an alien LI this time around since there were none in the Shepard trilogy. A male Quarian would probably make the most sense.

 

This might be an unpopular opinion among some here, but I think Bioware should limit the LIs to humans or near-human species, regardless of gender preference. 

We go to Andromeda so magog? :D

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Wouldn't we have to determine first if other alien species even have various sexual orientations? Assuming the alien species even has two sexes to begin with, there's a lot of background and development that BioWare would have to do on their end. For all we know, sexual orientation, as it pertains to Mass Effect, could be largely unique to humans. Not that I'm against the idea, but I don't necessarily believe the best way to create new alien species is to make them more human-esque, if you follow.



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We go to Andromeda so magog? :D

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Ew. No. You'd contract genital warts.



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Volus on volus action. Just think of all the rolling.....  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:

Not to mention the wheezing.

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Wouldn't we have to determine first if other alien species even have various sexual orientations? Assuming the alien species even has two sexes to begin with, there's a lot of background and development that BioWare would have to do on their end. For all we know, sexual orientation, as it pertains to Mass Effect, could be largely unique to humans. Not that I'm against the idea, but I don't necessarily believe the best way to create new alien species is to make them more human-esque, if you follow.

This why it strange Aria don't like than male Shepard kiss. i just assumed asari are like parasites. Atracted to everything just to have baby's.

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So little vorcha love, where is vorcha master baits when we need him most

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This why it strange Aria don't like than male Shepard kiss. i just assumed asari are like parasites. Atracted to everything just to have baby's.

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Lol I don't remember that. Is that from the Omega DLC? I don't remember even attempting to kiss Aria on my male Shepard.

 

Well, that suggests that asari, at least, seem to have a preference. However, Aria is the only asari that I can tell to have that sort of reaction. The rest don't seem to care what gender you are, as sexual orientation didn't seem to be apparent for them.



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To quote Deadpool :

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