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[Iakus]

I do not know if this has been discussed before, and I may be reading to deeply into this, but:

 

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Do these symbols look a little similar as if one evolved from the other?

 

 

Could the Pathfinder Initiative be a Cerberus funded project?

 

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SPACE ILLUMINATI STRIKES AGAIN!!!

[Ahriman]

I do not know if this has been discussed before, and I may be reading to deeply into this, but:

 

Spoiler

Do these symbols look a little similar as if one evolved from the other?

 

 

Could the Pathfinder Initiative be a Cerberus funded project?

For the love of Shepard, no, just no. I had more than enough of this Cerberus... err, plot.

[Drone223]

That line tells players nothing about an "ark project" it could mean a number of things, at best its really vague.

[Ahriman]

That line tells players nothing about an "ark project" it could mean a number of things, at best its really vague.

1. It would be strange if she was telling "Sorry, I have to finish our secret Ark Project."

2. It indeed can mean a number of things, but strangely these plans are never mentioned again in ME3, so there are good chances that it's out of ME3 scope.

[Undead Han]

Yet average star density between galaxies makes chances of finding "discharge bridge" to Andromeda close to zero.

 

 

Not necessarily. There is nothing in the lore as far as I can recall that states how often ships need to discharge or refuel. We just know that it has to happen periodically. Also intergalactic stars are much more common than you think. As many as half of all stars in existence lie between galaxies rather than in them.

 

Bioware has room to state that an ark is able to travel between intergalactic stars to drive discharge or refuel, just as they have room to have the galaxy reverse engineer Reaper tech which eliminates the drive discharge and refueling requirements.

 

The writers could go either route and have it be plausible from an in universe perspective.

[Hazegurl]

I do think this Ark could have been built Post Thessia.  After all, the Asari had been hording Prothean tech for centuries.  I don't think it's a very big ARK though. Probably large enough to squeeze a good number of life pods into and that's it.

[WildOrchid]

For the love of Shepard, no, just no. I had more than enough of this Cerberus... err, plot.

 

+1

We've had enough of this "humans ftw" group ****. I don't want some repetitive stuff in Andromeda.

[In Exile]

For the love of Shepard, no, just no. I had more than enough of this Cerberus... err, plot.

 

Mac Walters is involved. Cerberus will feature. 

[Undead Han]

Mac Walters is involved. Cerberus will feature. 

 

I hope not. If there is anything that absolutely needs to be left behind in the Milky Way...it is Cerberus.

 

Actually Cerberus should be dead there too, after the Reaper War. The Cerberus brand should be FUBAR post-ME3.

[AresKeith]

Mac Walters is involved. Cerberus will feature. 

 

The space Illuminati will hitch a ride  

[In Exile]

I hope not. If there is anything that absolutely needs to be left behind in the Milky Way...it is Cerberus.

 

Actually Cerberus should be dead there too, after the Reaper War. The Cerberus brand should be FUBAR post-ME3.

Cerberus should have been FUBAR post-ME1, and yet here we are 2 games later. 

[GalacticWolf5]

I would love to see a new and improved Cerberus group in ME:A. Maybe someone decided to rebuild the organization.

[GalacticWolf5]

Cerberus should have been FUBAR post-ME1, and yet here we are 2 games later.

What? No.

[Undead Han]

The space Illuminati will hitch a ride

 

 

Cerberus should have been FUBAR post-ME1, and yet here we are 2 games later. 

 

Stop crushing my hopes & dreams! 

 

I'd almost rather see Star Brat than Cerberus. 

[AresKeith]

 

 

You heard what the Illusive Sheen said "Cerberus is an Idea"

[corporal doody]

1. It would be strange if she was telling "Sorry, I have to finish our secret Ark Project."

2. It indeed can mean a number of things, but strangely these plans are never mentioned again in ME3, so there are good chances that it's out of ME3 scope.

and if we gonna play the loose end game.....perhaps all those folks on the Citadel (or a great deal) were "volunteered" for the project? maybe that is what happened with them folks...because it is never explained what happened to them...just that one moment they are there...then the Reapers move the Citadel...i mean all those folks with all those ships...fluidified for a new Reaper junior? And the Council would just abandon the Citadel with all those people on board to go to the rally point (where the were building the Crucible....so safeties sake?

[KaiserShep]

Cerberus should have been FUBAR post-ME1, and yet here we are 2 games later.

I wouldn't mind seeing a similar organization in this game, only NOT an enemy faction. I think it's Cerberus' descent into mookdom that really did them in, but I feel that there should be something like them in existence in this universe, but I guess just not in name, since it's tantamount to sporting a swastika in the MEU now.

[In Exile]

I wouldn't mind seeing a similar organization in this game, only NOT an enemy faction. I think it's Cerberus' descent into mookdom that really did them in, but I feel that there should be something like them in existence in this universe, but I guess just not in name, since it's tantamount to sporting a swastika in the MEU now.

 

They were sporting a swastika in ME2, more or less, by the end. TIM's political agenda was, basically, a racial supremacist one. But I think the idea behind something like Ceberus - which is a great but misunderstood point Ashley makes in ME1 - is not a bad one. It's "human" nature to prefer your ingroup - those closest you, and like you. The idea that the Council races, when the chips are down, will sacrifice humanity before their own people is a good one. 

[Golden_Persona]

We know that the Asari were hoarding knowledge for themselves anyhow. They were out for themselves the whole time until they needed help. Whose to say they didn't have other artifacts hidden away somewhere.

 

There are a lot of valid ways to explain how we got the ark ship technology even during the Reaper war. All throughout real history, or ME in-game history, organic lifeforms have been able to do amazing things when absolutely desperate. Survival instinct. Then you also have wormholes and the like. It's really not fair to just pass everything off as stupid because we don't want to enjoy the next game.

 

Also, oh god if they decide to bring Cerberus back -______- That's literally the one thing they could do to make me feel pessimistic about the next game. I don't even want any kind of organization remotely close to the kind that Cerberus was. They could bring back the Reapers and I wouldn't be as sad about it. I do think Mac Walters doesn't deserve the disdain of the entire fanbase though. The endings are pretty bad, but considering what he was tasked to do basically alone, end an entire series that has had a handful of good writers throughout all of it, he came out alive at least.

[Drone223]

1. It would be strange if she was telling "Sorry, I have to finish our secret Ark Project."

2. It indeed can mean a number of things, but strangely these plans are never mentioned again in ME3, so there are good chances that it's out of ME3 scope.

Thing is its not good writing to use a single vague line in a 30+ hour game as build up to this "ark project". If Bioware was building up to an "ark project" they'd wouldn't use a single vague line as their build up.

 

I do think this Ark could have been built Post Thessia.  After all, the Asari had been hording Prothean tech for centuries.  I don't think it's a very big ARK though. Probably large enough to squeeze a good number of life pods into and that's it.

That will not only be very bad writing on Bioware's part it'd also be extremely contrived as well, since the war is nearing its climax by then and practically everyone in the galaxy has committed themselves to the crucible.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It's really not fair to just pass everything off as stupid because we don't want to enjoy the next game.

Why do you assume that people who are finding problems with this premise don't want to enjoy the game? 

[The Elder King]

Mac Walters is involved. Cerberus will feature.

If true, this forum's reaction will be...interesting.

[Kabooooom]

If I was a normal citizen in the Milky Way during the Reaper War, watching homeworlds burn one after another, and someone said "hey, wanna hop on this ark to leave the Milky Way? It'd be a journey of centuries in cryo." I would absolutely say hell yes get me out of here.

Although, personally I find a generation ship to be way more interesting. I've always thought generation ships were fascinating. Honestly, it will probably be the method by which humans truly colonize the stars.

[N7Jamaican]

I really dislike the Ark theory, ugh!

[Kabooooom]

I really dislike the Ark theory, ugh!

Thing is, there really isn't another reasonable alternative for WHY the species of the Milky Way would want to go to Andromeda, rather than an ark contingency plan. The only other reason would be exploration and scientific curiosity, but given what must be required to make an intergalactic trip possible, it seems unreasonable that the galaxy would do it unless the game takes place in the far, far future and they left the Milky Way post reaper war.

And if that is the case, then it invalidates the out-of-game reason for moving to Andromeda in the first place: The ME3 endings.

As the game is closer to release, people will probably ask about the reasoning behind the move in setting and bioware will probably answer that it wasn't because of ME3's endings - that they merely wanted a change of setting.

But anyone with half a brain would know that is a load of ****.