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[mickey111]

Character generators that let you choose race especially. Fewer options = more defined player character = nobody acting okay that your character is basically death in the flesh (looking at you pillars of eternity godlike subrace). Besides, pretty sure that witcher 3 has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that having a set protagonists does little to limit any in depth decision making. 

[Malleficae]

You know races have nothing to do with text? Text is from people who write and races from people who turn it into game. So no, I still want races because Shepard was your "death in the flesh". 

[Felya87]

Yeah, because being human only made shep background so important and was so relevant...at least races give more roleplay viewpoint and cool look.

[mickey111]

Yeah, because being human only made shep background so important and was so relevant...at least races give more roleplay viewpoint and cool look.

 

Who said Mass Effect was perfect?

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

you mamma said it was perfect.

[Felya87]

Who said Mass Effect was perfect?

 

And who say human only character is always deep and good character? Shepard is incredibly bland, and her backgrounds were incredible forgettable. In a trilogy there was less specific background material than in half DAI. And DAI, because of the limiting time to develop those, have not too much race specific stuff. But specific armour (for at least dwarfes, elves, and humans are there), specific dialogues, table missions, romances and NPC reactions are there. Can be few, can be not for every race, but are there! and are more noticeable with a female elf. (specific romances path, totally different approach from certain characters too).

 

If more time was put into those, instead of being put in as a "last thought", the races would have great. And are already more than good, and better than in most games.

[saladinbob]

I hope they give us a decent character creator but I also hope they do what they did with the first three games and give us an iconic looking default face for both male and female.

[Quarian Master Race]

Indeed. Hopefully with Halo 4 guy writing it they do away with that superflous garbage and just give us the Master Chief

[LemurFromTheId]

For a while now I've been quietly hoping for a Mass Effect game with a set alien protagonist. Turian, Asari, Salarian... I don't care. It'd be fun, and it'd provide a new, unique perspective to the ME universe.

 

...but I guess there are too many kids who can only play white male characters, and too many EA execs who think we'll only play white male characters.

[Malleficae]

[...] and give us an iconic looking default face for both male and female.

 

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO

[Absafraginlootly]

I don't get disappointed with the characters I make in the cc - and I look forward to Andromeda's CC.

[mickey111]

And who say human only character is always deep and good character? Shepard is incredibly bland, and her backgrounds were incredible forgettable. In a trilogy there was less specific background material than in half DAI. And DAI, because of the limiting time to develop those, have not too much race specific stuff. But specific armour (for at least dwarfes, elves, and humans are there), specific dialogues, table missions, romances and NPC reactions are there. Can be few, can be not for every race, but are there! and are more noticeable with a female elf. (specific romances path, totally different approach from certain characters too).

 

If more time was put into those, instead of being put in as a "last thought", the races would have great. And are already more than good, and better than in most games.

 

I hope your sitting down, because I'm about to blow your mind: Mass Effect is not the only pseudo RPG game that includes a set character race, and it's not even the best example. Fact is that more options for race, and character, and combat style mean developer time must be divided among all these things. All the armor design, character dialouge, NPC dialogue, mission design, quest design...

 

amazing, right? 

[Felya87]

I hope they give us a decent character creator but I also hope they do what they did with the first three games and give us an iconic looking default face for both male and female.

 

NO!

No to default iconic character. It kill my enyoimant of the CC, since BioWare have the absurd abit to give to the default face the better skin texture and the better hairstyle without putting those into the CC. I'm still angry that I can't use FemShep hairstyle (ME3) and Hawke's iconic hairstyle 

[saladinbob]

NO!

No to default iconic character. It kill my enyoimant of the CC, since BioWare have the absurd abit to give to the default face the better skin texture and the better hairstyle without putting those into the CC. I'm still angry that I can't use FemShep hairstyle (ME3) and Hawke's iconic hairstyle 

 

Completely disagree. If they give both a decent character creator and an iconic character, the choice is there for the player. No one is forcing you to use the default face and no one is forcing you to spend hours you don't have on creating someone that looks marginally better than the Elephant man. Player choice should be the watch word when designing this.

[Felya87]

I hope your sitting down, because I'm about to blow your mind: Mass Effect is not the only pseudo RPG game that includes a set character race, and it's not even the best example. Fact is that more options for race, and character, and combat style mean developer time must be divided among all these things. All the armor design, character dialouge, NPC dialogue, mission design, quest design...

 

amazing, right? 

 

I hope you have a bed, so you can lie down: I have played more games than you think, and I have found the set characters in a RPG aren't my thing. And I have always had much more fun playng different races than the human ones.

And I have seen human only is not connected to quality. Better different races with less stuff, than human only with nothing like in ME.

[Felya87]

Completely disagree. If they give both a decent character creator and an iconic character, the choice is there for the player. No one is forcing you to use the default face and no one is forcing you to spend hours you don't have on creating someone that looks marginally better than the Elephant man. Player choice should be the watch word when designing this.

 

There are always some default models in the CC.   Can't those players that don't want to engage in the CC use one of those? why the need for a iconic look?

there is really no need for an iconic character. Expecially, no need to not let players use certaing skin/hairstyles and leave those only for the default face.

[LemurFromTheId]

There's no real technical reason why the "iconic default face" can't be made into a fully moldable preset for the character creator. That'd be the best option for everyone.

[mickey111]

I hope you have a bed, so you can lie down: I have played more games than you think, and I have found the set characters in a RPG aren't my thing. And I have always had much more fun playng different races than the human ones.

And I have seen human only is not connected to quality. Better different races with less stuff, than human only with nothing like in ME.

 

Shepard wasn't human, shepard was a cyborg. 

[Panda]

Set PC is fine in story that deeply resolves around them and doesn't have much room to roleplay. But you can't truly roleplay with set protagonist in my opinion. Geralt will always be old man who has dry humor. Same with Adam Jensen, Lara Croft etc. You will always be playing as character developers have created, not character you have created. I prefer Bioware lets us play with characters we create as we like.

[The Elder King]

Shepard wasn't human, shepard was a cyborg.

Yeah. And The Reapers were giant pieces of chocolate.

[Jester]

Yeah. And The Reapers were giant pieces of chocolate.

What a plot twist that would be.

 

Shepard wasn't human, shepard was a cyborg. 

Only since Mass Effect 2.

 

Yeah, because being human only made shep background so important and was so relevant...at least races give more roleplay viewpoint and cool look.

The fact that Shepard is human affected the story a lot though. Especially in Mass Effect 1. 

[LemurFromTheId]

Shepard wasn't human, shepard was a cyborg. 

 

Could you please pick some more nit?

 

Shepard was a human cyborg.

[Teddie Sage]

Hey, tone down the aggressive comments people. We're not in a kindergarten here. 

[Kroitz]

Character creation is just another superfluous step that keeps you from gameplay. They should remove it. Your actions matter, not who you are.

[Gwydden]

For a while now I've been quietly hoping for a Mass Effect game with a set alien protagonist. Turian, Asari, Salarian... I don't care. It'd be fun, and it'd provide a new, unique perspective to the ME universe.

...but I guess there are too many kids who can only play white male characters, and too many EA execs who think we'll only play white male characters.

Yes, people who are only interested in playing humans are not only the overwhelming majority (if DA stats are anything to go from) they are also all white males who only play white males.

Nice job finding a way to twist this into a 'WASPs are evil' rant.