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[Master Warder Z_]

I been there for Basic and AIT (36B).

I did MOS at Stewart

[In Exile]

Yep.  I had one in my high school.  Most of the schools around here have one.  I live in a suburb of a big city, and they had them here too.  I was surprised as well.  I knew about them in NM, but it's more expected there.  Here?  Yeah, that was quite the surprise.  Sadly, most of them were every bit of the redneck stereotype that comes with it.  The friend that stood up for me was a rancher, not some city boy playing pretend by wearing Wranglers and roping a bull on occasion.

 

Non-professional sports just don't exist on the same scale in Canada. That's largely why I'm surprised. Like, having a football team on a high school is the exception. Even hockey isn't completely ubiquitous. 

[Grieving Natashina]

Non-professional sports just don't exist on the same scale in Canada. That's largely why I'm surprised. Like, having a football team on a high school is the exception. Even hockey isn't completely ubiquitous. 

Meanwhile, my local news covers high school events, including lacrosse.  The only time I notice is if my old high school is involved somehow.  We're a sports town.  We have a soccer team (which does get some coverage,) a football team, a basketball team and a hokey team in my city.

 

On topic:  I still support the OP's request.  I know that the FB engine is a lot better at rendering dark skin tones than UR was.  So making a good looking non-white character is certainly possible for ME:A.  

 

In general, if they decide to show a face under the visor, I'd like it to be someone that isn't white for a change.  For instance, while there isn't many female leads and even less black leads, there is even fewer Latino/Latina leads.  I'd like to see that in marketing and/or trailers for ME:A.  I felt with DA:I that showcasing the Frostbite engine was missed by showing a non-human character yet more white people.  

 

There is some folks that remember the rather...iffy job previous game engines have done in the past in relation to BioWare games.  By putting someone not white up front, it not only allows for more representation, but it's a chance to show off more of what FB is capable of in terms of graphics.  I'd like to see the new PC shown in this way.  It doesn't have to be for every trailer, but I would love to see something different from BioWare for a human player character.  

[Master Warder Z_]

*snorts*

[Former_Fiend]

It's all good.  A lot of people here in the States are surprised about things like high school rodeo teams existing in states north of Oklahoma.  

 

I live in Texas and none of the schools I went to(I moved around a bit) had rodeo teams.

[Hadeedak]

Junior Iditarod was my high school sport. Y'all great southern pansies. 

[Grieving Natashina]

I live in Texas and none of the schools I went to(I moved around a bit) had rodeo teams.

<shrug>  It's just the assumption I've run into from a few posters overseas.  They didn't mean any harm, they were just surprised.  

[Natureguy85]

As they say, reality has a liberal bias....

 

Only until the drugs wear off.

 

 

Waa? Gay person, here. Just because there are more people being killed (note: people are STILL killed here, especially trans women of color) in countries for being lbtgq than the US of A, doesn't mean that homophobia, transphobia and queerphobia isn't a problem in the US of A. I have to worry about job and housing discrimination. I have to worry about my physical safety -- cross my fingers and hope I don't come across a dude who thinks all I need is a good pronging (supplied by him, of course). I have to worry about acceptance from my family and peers. If your argument is really going to be "the only people who have the right to complain are people who have it the worst off", then you, yourself, have lost the ability to complain about ANYTHING in your life or about anything else, because someone always has it worse off than you. What you're doing is making use of a silencing tactic. You sound like Richard Dawkins and his "Dear Muslima" whining.

And to the libertarian who basically told me to shut up. Go back, read....and ask yourself why you felt the need to call me out, but completely ignored the actual bigoted comments that preceded my initial post. You complained because I called this crap out. You never called out the inappropriate comments, so you actually don't care about social injustice. That falls in line with the libertarian platform. I stand by what I said: you just provided a prime example of libertarian apathy. Thanks.

 

I never said people don't face discrimination, I said people are rarely killed for being gay here (at least that gets widely reported) while it's systemic overseas. Also, don't claim that every opposition is bigotry or whatever-phobia like Subject Zero does. Well, it's clear from your first post that you do too. Like I said, you'll see it everywhere if you choose to.

 

 

 

how about they just do what they want to do and not feel any pressure from anybody to do otherwise? or is that asking to much?

 

To some extent, but sometimes the result is Mass Effect 3's ending.

 

 

Um. I know Gay people would lie about their sexuality on a survey because I know a lot of Gay people that have been ashamed to come out as a Gay person because of homophobic straight people.

And yes a lot of LGBT people are afraid of homophobic straight people because homophobes keep murdering LGBT people...

Anyway, I'm done talking about this. I posted something 4 days ago and it's completely changed the topic of the thread and I've gotten so many homophobes F U M I N G! And I love it!!

But I have better things to do so move on. I'm right and you're wrong. Bye.

 

Translation; disagreement with me is prima facie homophobia. I'm right because I say so.

 

Good riddance. Leave the sane people alone.

 

You mean me?  I didn't tell you to shut up.  I asked you to leave RL politics out of this.  I was requesting that you not make blanketed statements of two political parties.

 

Apathy?  Cute.  On a personal level, there is several posters in here that know me well enough to where they know I care about a lot of subjects, and that the video game culture is a deep passion of mine.  Offline,  I've been voting every year; I've been following the new cyberstalking laws on the books.   Here in the US, thanks to some of the people that certain groups hate, there is a cyberstalking and cyberbullying law that just passed the House of Rep and is on the way to Congress.  Did you know about that?  Go check it out.  I was very happy with the language of the bill.   

 

I've written to my congressman and state senate to overturn the ban on gay marriage here.  I actually study from objective sources when it comes to things I vote on, such as fracking.  I care, deeply.  How in blazes did you get me asking everyone to chill out as "not caring?"  Actually read what I said.  

 

I said that no one has the right to lash out at each other.  I asked for you not to be so aggressive.  I guess you've intentionally missed all the times I've asked people to stop insulting each other.  I have called out posts that sounded sexist and bigoted before.  I wasn't calling those people out in the post I addressed to you, because I was talking to you.  Clearly you've decided to only focus on that one post of mine, and not the posts where I do call people out.  See, I call out everyone if they are being overly aggressive.  I've encouraged people to use the ignore list if they feel the other person is too stubborn or whatever.

 

I'm LGBT+ too.  I used to be apart of the Rocky Horror Picture Show shadowcast here in town throughout all of high school.  As an adult, I started a GLAAD email campaign a number of years ago over LGBT representation in video games.  I got harassed, e-stalked, insulted, the whole nine, because of what I did.  I've fought for my video game representation, and thankfully I wasn't targeted for doxxing or swatting.    

 

I also volunteered for the AIDS walk for a few years, volunteered for Planned Parenthood, and other things along those lines too many to list here.  I was the target for "correction" in high school by the Rodeo Team.  A friend of mine got hit by a car when he managed to stop them.  So yeah, I do know what it's like.  I lived it.  I care a lot too, and I've put myself out there.

 

If you don't think I've gone off on the "dudebros" before, please talk to TommyServo.  He's one of the posters that can tell you that I don't tolerate extreme aggression  very well.    However, thank you for showing why I encourage civility.  Thank you for showing why blanket statements can be hurtful and harmful.  Thank you for demonstrating why we need to talk to each other more and not at each other.  

 

That's the problem. By trying to have an actual discourse and convince people of your way of thinking instead of verbal abuse and legal bullying, you prove that you are clearly not "down for the struggle".

[Sartoz]

Would love to have more diverse skin types instead of like, five shades of pale, one shade of tan, medium brown and dark brown. Although I'm glad that in ME3, I could use my own skintone for my Shep. 

 

I don't really expect much from a limited pre-made character customization content. But I only wish we wouldn't have those weird heavily slanted and inverted slanted eyes types.... And its called epicanthic folds... and for heaven's sake, can they just put additional sliders to adjust depth and angles.

 

My only wishlist for MEA was for a better customization content for male character. Male CC for Mass Effect was atrocious...

 

as for representation issues... does it even matter in a game that allow you to create whatever characters you want?

 

and before someone accuse me for being white and insensitive about 'POC' concerns... again. I am born and bred Asian who live in Asia and we're the largest population in the world. Was is necessary for me to feel entitled just because game industry in the west doesn't present this as a fact? Eh... no.

 

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LOL!

Bio is not known for their CC. They seem hell bent on re-using assets or just slapping together a hodge podge of a CC as found in DAI.  You'd think that after that disaster (DAI hair), Bio would come up with a common but very capable face, hair, colour and body style CC module for all of their future games, since FB3 is now their common rendering engine. I hope MEA's director(s) understands this.

 

Having said that, personally, I do not buy a game for its CC ability. I buy a game if:

1. My PC hardware / software can support it.

2. It's a type of game that interests me ( ie: forget racing or train simulation, for example).

3. Has a quality SP story

4. I can use the keyboard and mouse for game controls

5. Has key remapping feature for keyboard and intelligent mouse.

6. The price is right.

[Laughing_Man]

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LOL!

Bio is not known for their CC. They seem hell bent on re-using assets or just slapping together a hodge podge of a CC as found in DAI.  You'd think that after that disaster (DAI hair), Bio would come up with a common but very capable face, hair, colour and body style CC module for all of their future games, since FB3 is now their common rendering engine. I hope MEA's director(s) understands this.

 

Having said that, personally, I do not buy a game for its CC ability. I buy a game if:

1. My PC hardware / software can support it.

2. It's a type of game that interests me ( ie: forget racing or train simulation, for example).

3. Has a quality SP story

4. I can use the keyboard and mouse for game controls

5. Has key remapping feature for keyboard and intelligent mouse.

6. The price is right.

 

It seems like Bioware simply needs more competent people on the technical side of things.

[Former_Fiend]

I'm hoping ME:A's CC is a considerable improvement over previous titles. This is definitely an element that has showcased Bioware's laziness and complacency.

 

And I definitely see the representation argument here as being valid. "The promotional character doesn't matter since you can customize your character in game" rings hollow when that boils down to "making a white guy is really easy. Making a black or asian guy is going to take a lot of patience and dedication, and maybe you'll get your skin tone right, but no promises."

[In Exile]

I'm hoping ME:A's CC is a considerable improvement over previous titles. This is definitely an element that has showcased Bioware's laziness and complacency.

 

And I definitely see the representation argument here as being valid. "The promotional character doesn't matter since you can customize your character in game" rings hollow when that boils down to "making a white guy is really easy. Making a black or asian guy is going to take a lot of patience and dedication, and maybe you'll get your skin tone right, but no promises."

Never explain with laziness what can be explained through incompetence. As a general rule, it's far, far more common that people (esp. those with jobs) are just bad at them rather than lazy. 

[Former_Fiend]

Never explain with laziness what can be explained through incompetence. As a general rule, it's far, far more common that people (esp. those with jobs) are just bad at them rather than lazy. 

 

See, if they were just bad at it, I'd imagine they'd be actively working to improve it (and failing) rather than just reusing all these old elements. 

[In Exile]

See, if they were just bad at it, I'd imagine they'd be actively working to improve it (and failing) rather than just reusing all these old elements. 

 

Reusing old elements just seems to be another way to be bad at it. 

[Former_Fiend]

Reusing old elements just seems to be another way to be bad at it. 

 

Laziness is it's own brand of incompetence.

[aoibhealfae]

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LOL!

Bio is not known for their CC. They seem hell bent on re-using assets or just slapping together a hodge podge of a CC as found in DAI.  You'd think that after that disaster (DAI hair), Bio would come up with a common but very capable face, hair, colour and body style CC module for all of their future games, since FB3 is now their common rendering engine. I hope MEA's director(s) understands this.

 

Having said that, personally, I do not buy a game for its CC ability. I buy a game if:

1. My PC hardware / software can support it.

2. It's a type of game that interests me ( ie: forget racing or train simulation, for example).

3. Has a quality SP story

4. I can use the keyboard and mouse for game controls

5. Has key remapping feature for keyboard and intelligent mouse.

6. The price is right.

 

Did I say I only play these games because of their CCs? Where exactly did you come up with that conclusion?

 

For me, the best part about Bioware games was the ability to play unique versions of Shepard, Hawke, Warden, Inquisitor, Revan, Surik, Jedi Knight, Imperial Agent etc. It was very rare to have an ability where you can craft your own character without depending on defaults. Even having limited presets is better than none. Besides, even if there were limitations with the CC, we have modding communities for Mass Effect and Dragon Age. 

 

Besides, when was the last time you see in books, tv or film, a beautiful Malaysian/Vietnamese/Singaporean/Indonesian girl or handsome Bangladeshi/Pakistani/Japanese/Arabian guy as a space marine or a badass mage/warrior who is their own main characters rather than a side character or a villain? This is why genre games with CC like this is appealing. I could create multiracial main character without someone complaining how it didn't 'fit' with the setting or how they thought they look 'wrong', 'unrealistic' etc. The important thing is I could decide whether I want to play as a default white protagonist or not. I would be miserable if I was forced to play the default ME3 FemShep just because people voted a red-haired white chick is better than others. 

[Master Warder Z_]

*snorts*

[Panda]

Personally I think DAI's CC was overall very impressing, best I have seen so far in the games. Well at least PC and new gen version was, old gen version had lower graphics and outcome doesn't look as good. The problem with the CC just is that there there is some really impressing parts in terms of creating face, but the CC lacks noticeably in hairs (not only styles, but also quality of hair), beards, eyebrowns and so on. I'd be very happy with DAI style CC options in ME:A if only it had better hair.

[Eternal Phoenix]

I made a couple of middle eastern looking characters in the Dragon Age series as well as characters I would consider Mediterranean looking (i.e Greek, Spanish, Italian). I think Inquisition had black characters covered well with the skin tone and hair texture too so I think maybe Bioware just have to work on Asian characters now. Personally I was happy with the CC of Inquisition other than the terrible hair.

[N7Jamaican]

Now that I think about it.. Does it matter what race the PC is as long as we can create who and what we want?

[Former_Fiend]

Now that I think about it.. Does it matter what race the PC is as long as we can create who and what we want?

 

It's a debatable question. An argument could be made that there's still an issue with it; "You can create whoever you want, but we're only going to show white people." 

 

Also, it relies on actually be able to create whoever you want. There've been a few examples of convincing asian or black Shepards, but both I've seen are male, and both were stated to have taken considerable time and effort in the CC to produce. 

 

If it isn't as easy to make a black character as it is to make a white character, then the "It doesn't matter what we advertise because you can create whatever you want" rings a bit hollow. 

[N7Jamaican]

It's a debatable question. An argument could be made that there's still an issue with it; "You can create whoever you want, but we're only going to show white people." 

 

Also, it relies on actually be able to create whoever you want. There've been a few examples of convincing asian or black Shepards, but both I've seen are male, and both were stated to have taken considerable time and effort in the CC to produce. 

 

If it isn't as easy to make a black character as it is to make a white character, then the "It doesn't matter what we advertise because you can create whatever you want" rings a bit hollow. 

 

I am a black male, and yes creating one that resembles myself is a bit difficult.  But I see your point.

[Former_Fiend]

I am a black male, and yes creating one that resembles myself is a bit difficult.  But I see your point.

 

Personally, as I said in my first post in this thread, I don't care what race the advertised PC is. They can spin a wheel to decide, for all I care.

 

But I see the argument, and I see that the character creator is very lacking.

[Lady Artifice]

Wait. Wait. Wait.

 

Wait.

 

Did someone in this thread call Steelcan an SJW?