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[The Hierophant]

Do you think ME:A will feature an alien life form that serves as a replacement for, and is the equivalent of a TM?

[AresKeith]

It'll have a space Dragon

[Kabooooom]

Probably. The Thresher Maw was an interesting idea. If life evolved such that it could survive the vacuum of space for a prolonged period of time (some life already has been shown to be capable of this), and if it were hardy enough to survive and reproduce in a diversity of environments, then the concept is very feasible to me.

Of course, the Thresher Maw is native to Tuchanka. No wonder it can survive virtually anywhere. An Andromeda native life form would have to have a similar harsh native environment, I think.

[The Hierophant]

It'll have a space Dragon

ME needs some dragons.

[L. Han]

That's what I have been curious about as well. It would be a shame if they ditched all the aliens from the Milky Way, yet if they bring everything over it would seem like nothing happened.

 

It also seem to conflict with the idea that another galaxy is different. Each continent on earth is drastically different, each planet is different, each star system is different, how would somewhere else so darn far away would be so similar?

[L. Han]

ME needs some dragons.

 

Doesn't Reaper Harvesters count? They are lizard like, got wings, and shoots fire balls.

[KaiserShep]

That flying thing in the trailer could very well be a dangerous life form.

[Kabooooom]

That's what I have been curious about as well. It would be a shame if they ditched all the aliens from the Milky Way, yet if they bring everything over it would seem like nothing happened.

It also seem to conflict with the idea that another galaxy is different. Each continent on earth is drastically different, each planet is different, each star system is different, how would somewhere else so darn far away would be so similar?

Life doesnt necessarily follow that logic. Convergent evolution can be observed between diverse branches of life, and many biologists suspect that similar convergence probably exists with some alien life - within reason.

[The Hierophant]

Doesn't Reaper Harvesters count? They are lizard like, got wings, and shoots fire balls.

Nah they're similar but not the same thing. Think organic. Like say.... Falkor.

[Cyonan]

Whatever it is, I want to fire it out of a mass accelerator cannon at my enemies.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Probably. The Thresher Maw was an interesting idea. If life evolved such that it could survive the vacuum of space for a prolonged period of time (some life already has been shown to be capable of this), and if it were hardy enough to survive and reproduce in a diversity of environments, then the concept is very feasible to me.

Of course, the Thresher Maw is native to Tuchanka. No wonder it can survive virtually anywhere. An Andromeda native life form would have to have a similar harsh native environment, I think.

 

Thresher Maws are nonsense. Even if we accept the premise of a lifeform that consumes anorganic matter and can adapt to a multitude of hostile environments, there is still no explanation how they got everywhere unless the Protheans just transplanted them to uninhabited planets for shits and giggles. All Thresher Maws come from Kalros, on Tuchanka. Let's ignore the fact that Kalros would have to fire her eggs out at escape velocity to get them into orbit, the Milky Way is 100.000 lightyears across and the eggs don't use the relays nor do they come even close to lightspeed. To successfully seed even a dozen planets all over the galaxy then for countless millennia Kalros would have to shoot sextillions of eggs into space. It would have to start during the cycles predating the Protheans, something no galactic civilisation could ignore. And the Krogan would have very weird legends about it, too.

 

From a biological point of view, such an enormous waste makes no sense... and since Kalros doesn't seem to age and die, procreation doesn't seem like something that matters to her. The entire life cycle of the Thresher Maws is pointless.

 

I'm not even going to mention that the energy and mass required to produce so many eggs is several magnitudes higher than Tuchanka could provide.

[Cyonan]

Thresher Maws are nonsense. Even if we accept the premise of a lifeform that consumes anorganic matter and can adapt to a multitude of hostile environments, there is still no explanation how they got everywhere unless the Protheans just transplanted them to uninhabited planets for shits and giggles. All Thresher Maws come from Kalros, on Tuchanka. Let's ignore the fact that Kalros would have to fire her eggs out at escape velocity to get them into orbit, the Milky Way is 100.000 lightyears across and the eggs don't use the relays nor do they come even close to lightspeed. To successfully seed even a dozen planets all over the galaxy then for countless millennia Kalros would have to shoot sextillions of eggs into space. It would have to start during the cycles predating the Protheans, something no galactic civilisation could ignore. And the Krogan would have very weird legends about it, too.

 

From a biological point of view, such an enormous waste makes no sense... and since Kalros doesn't seem to age and die, procreation doesn't seem like something that matters to her. The entire life cycle of the Thresher Maws is pointless.

 

I'm not even going to mention that the energy and mass required to produce so many eggs is several magnitudes higher than Tuchanka could provide.

 

Mass Effect tends to work a lot better if you don't analyze things quite this closely =P

 

There is a lot of things in the game that makes no sense if you think about it hard enough.

[Kabooooom]

Thresher Maws are nonsense. Even if we accept the premise of a lifeform that consumes anorganic matter and can adapt to a multitude of hostile environments, there is still no explanation how they got everywhere unless the Protheans just transplanted them to uninhabited planets for shits and giggles. All Thresher Maws come from Kalros, on Tuchanka. Let's ignore the fact that Kalros would have to fire her eggs out at escape velocity to get them into orbit, the Milky Way is 100.000 lightyears across and the eggs don't use the relays nor do they come even close to lightspeed. To successfully seed even a dozen planets all over the galaxy then for countless millennia Kalros would have to shoot sextillions of eggs into space. It would have to start during the cycles predating the Protheans, something no galactic civilisation could ignore. And the Krogan would have very weird legends about it, too.

From a biological point of view, such an enormous waste makes no sense... and since Kalros doesn't seem to age and die, procreation doesn't seem like something that matters to her. The entire life cycle of the Thresher Maws is pointless.

I'm not even going to mention that the energy and mass required to produce so many eggs is several magnitudes higher than Tuchanka could provide.

A) you do realize that the canon explanation for how Thresher Maws spread across the galaxy is that their spores hitch rides on starships...right? Well, that's the canon explanation. Read the codex.

B ) I'm a biologist, and I happen to think that panspermia events via asteroid impacts are particularly probable. If you do the math, and many people have, the likelihood of life spreading between solar systems, provided it can survive the prolonged journey of millennia, is inevitable. Over the course of billions of years, life could seed across entire star clusters, easily.

One episode of NdGTs Cosmos featured this concept - they were a bit more optimistic than I am, demonstrating that it could even happen across significant swaths of the Milky Way itself due to the normal orbit of stars throughout the galaxy. Who knows. But the idea itself is plausible, at least.

[Otter-under-the-mountain]

There is still no explanation how they got everywhere unless the Protheans just transplanted them to uninhabited planets for shits and giggles.

Javik claims that Protheans used to ride them (and that they were smaller back then), which makes that less implausible than you make it out to be.

 

Of course, he also claimed that they invented the electromagnetic force, so it doesn't make it much less implausible.

[KaiserShep]

Thresher Maws are nonsense. Even if we accept the premise of a lifeform that consumes anorganic matter and can adapt to a multitude of hostile environments, there is still no explanation how they got everywhere unless the Protheans just transplanted them to uninhabited planets for shits and giggles. All Thresher Maws come from Kalros, on Tuchanka. Let's ignore the fact that Kalros would have to fire her eggs out at escape velocity to get them into orbit, the Milky Way is 100.000 lightyears across and the eggs don't use the relays nor do they come even close to lightspeed. To successfully seed even a dozen planets all over the galaxy then for countless millennia Kalros would have to shoot sextillions of eggs into space. It would have to start during the cycles predating the Protheans, something no galactic civilisation could ignore. And the Krogan would have very weird legends about it, too.

 

From a biological point of view, such an enormous waste makes no sense... and since Kalros doesn't seem to age and die, procreation doesn't seem like something that matters to her. The entire life cycle of the Thresher Maws is pointless.

 

I'm not even going to mention that the energy and mass required to produce so many eggs is several magnitudes higher than Tuchanka could provide.

 

Just think of thresher maws as super tardigrades that take full advantage of a galaxy full of people for which interstellar travel is a regular thing.

[The Hierophant]

Thresher Maws are nonsense. Even if we accept the premise of a lifeform that consumes anorganic matter and can adapt to a multitude of hostile environments, there is still no explanation how they got everywhere unless the Protheans just transplanted them to uninhabited planets for shits and giggles. All Thresher Maws come from Kalros, on Tuchanka. Let's ignore the fact that Kalros would have to fire her eggs out at escape velocity to get them into orbit, the Milky Way is 100.000 lightyears across and the eggs don't use the relays nor do they come even close to lightspeed. To successfully seed even a dozen planets all over the galaxy then for countless millennia Kalros would have to shoot sextillions of eggs into space. It would have to start during the cycles predating the Protheans, something no galactic civilisation could ignore. And the Krogan would have very weird legends about it, too.

 

From a biological point of view, such an enormous waste makes no sense... and since Kalros doesn't seem to age and die, procreation doesn't seem like something that matters to her. The entire life cycle of the Thresher Maws is pointless.

 

I'm not even going to mention that the energy and mass required to produce so many eggs is several magnitudes higher than Tuchanka could provide.

I agree with Cyonan.

 

Plus Like you mentioned in your first paragraph, the spread of her spores were probably intentional. 

[The Hierophant]

Looking back on the codex the Thresher Maws reminds me of Star Wars' Sarlaccs.

[Kabooooom]

Looking back on the codex the Thresher Maws reminds me of Star Wars' Sarlaccs.

I think their back story was taken from the Sarlacc, and they were otherwise inspired by Dune.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Mass Effect tends to work a lot better if you don't analyze things quite this closely =P

 

There is a lot of things in the game that makes no sense if you think about it hard enough.

 

Oh, I know. This is fun for me though.

 

A) you do realize that the canon explanation for how Thresher Maws spread across the galaxy is that their spores hitch rides on starships...right? Well, that's the canon explanation. Read the codex.

B ) I'm a biologist, and I happen to think that panspermia events via asteroid impacts are particularly probable. If you do the math, and many people have, the likelihood of life spreading between solar systems, provided it can survive the prolonged journey of millennia, is inevitable. Over the course of billions of years, life could seed across entire star clusters, easily.

One episode of NdGTs Cosmos featured this concept - they were a bit more optimistic than I am, demonstrating that it could even happen across significant swaths of the Milky Way itself due to the normal orbit of stars throughout the galaxy. Who knows. But the idea itself is plausible, at least.

 

Yeah, sure. Which star ships were that? Krogan? They live in a DMZ, they haven't had ships for centuries. Before that they were building war ships in orbit, the remains of their facilities can still be found when you scan the planets and before -that- they didn't even have space flight. Also, most star ships don't land on planets.

 

Particularly probable? Inevitable? Yes, if you use enough time in your equation. Problem is, Kalros isn't several billion years old. I wasn't joking with the sextillions of eggs/spores. Space is empty. It is so empty the chance to hit anything during interstellar travel is so small that you need millions of years to even get in the single digits. Seeding at least a dozen planets all over the galaxy from one fixed point is extremely improbable if you remain within a reasonable timeframe for the lifetime of a single organism. Unless Kalros is a billion years old, which I highly doubt.

 

Javik claims that Protheans used to ride them (and that they were smaller back then), which makes that less implausible than you make it out to be.

 

Of course, he also claimed that they invented the electromagnetic force, so it doesn't make it much less implausible.

 

Javik's comment was a Dune reference, nothing more. ME3 didn't take the lore seriously anymore, they made up all kinds of nonsense.

 

^^

[GalacticWolf5]

I'm guessing (hoping) we'll get to fight big creatures like the one flying in the trailer. Maybe we could fight those creatures similarly to how we fight High Dragons in DAI. I think it would be awesome.

[N7BlackDahlia]

That flying thing in the trailer could very well be a dangerous life form.

I look forward to that being a possible boss.

[AlexiaRevan]

I hope the new planets we will visit have more life to them . Beside go visit a Bunker then leave..talk about a waste of Landing on a BIG PLANET! 

[The Hierophant]

I hope the new planets we will visit have more life to them . Beside go visit a Bunker then leave..talk about a waste of Landing on a BIG PLANET! 

I do remember getting jacked for my creds by this space cow. Ran the sob over with the Mako.

[AlexiaRevan]

I do remember getting jacked for my creds by this space cow. Ran the sob over with the Mako.

I mean more then some space cow and monkey !  Maybe even see settlements ? Houses and such ? Would be nice , instead of Landing and just go to Blinking Dot where your side quest is..then leave.....

[KaiserShep]

I do remember getting jacked for my creds by this space cow. Ran the sob over with the Mako.

 

That made credits even weirder. Like, is it just cash in a pouch, so the shifty space cow is picking it out of our pockets? I thought it was sort of like bitcoin in space, because my Shepard was walking around with millions of credits. I ran it over with the Mako too. Seems funnier than just taking it out with a shotgun.