But why there is nor mass relay in Andromeda? For reapers travel to Andromeda galaxy is blink of an eye they live more than 1.000.000 years and travel from our Milky Way with FTL30/day is like 200 years -->5 days comparing to human life span.
Worried about the scale an size of the Andromeda....
#26
Posté 24 juin 2015 - 11:36
#27
Posté 24 juin 2015 - 11:57
But why there is nor mass relay in Andromeda?
Why would there be? Perhaps the Leviathans never went there, who knows.
#28
Posté 24 juin 2015 - 11:57
Should be a council. Galactic governments are common in scifi, Republic for Star wars, Federation for Star Trek, DOOP for Futurama. And make sense.
The idea of not existing is odd... Especially if they went thousands of years without having to suffer the Harvest. They should blow our tech and society out of the water.
The reapers made the Council possible though because of the mass relays and citadel they left behind - there could still be a galactic government but it might not cover as much space as last time or be as effective in controlling Andromeda's species. There's also a chance that war could've destroyed whatever galactic government there once was thousands or millions of years ago.
#29
Posté 24 juin 2015 - 12:06
Should be a council. Galactic governments are common in scifi, Republic for Star wars, Federation for Star Trek, DOOP for Futurama. And make sense.
The idea of not existing is odd... Especially if they went thousands of years without having to suffer the Harvest. They should blow our tech and society out of the water.
It's a game of exploration and colonisation - you might run into existing government structures in the Andomeda galaxy but any government structure the colonists have would be back in the "old world" or copied from it ... think American history.
Humans (et al) move into Andromeda, start a war with (or attempt to assimilate, with missionaries) any culture that already exists there, declare independence from their old governmental systems and start to found a new empire. You're a pathfinder in that initial expansion / war - that's where the game is going to be set.
Having a galactic government for Andromeda actually doesn't make much sense; again, look at the U.S. it was discovered in 1492 - operated as colonies and mercantile ventures until the War of Independence. There wasn't actually a U.S. government until 1789.
#30
Posté 24 juin 2015 - 12:24
It's a game of exploration and colonisation - you might run into existing government structures in the Andomeda galaxy but any government structure the colonists have would be back in the "old world" or copied from it ... think American history.
Humans (et al) move into Andromeda, start a war with (or attempt to assimilate, with missionaries) any culture that already exists there, declare independence from their old governmental systems and start to found a new empire. You're a pathfinder in that initial expansion / war - that's where the game is going to be set.
Having a galactic government for Andromeda actually doesn't make much sense; again, look at the U.S. it was discovered in 1492 - operated as colonies and mercantile ventures until the War of Independence. There wasn't actually a U.S. government until 1789.
That's why I offer Omega solution. Omega is like New York was in XVIII/XIX century dangerous place filled with hungry emigrants from Europe
#31
Posté 24 juin 2015 - 03:40
Also, the lack of a relay network makes the scale and structure of civilizations in Andromeda more interesting, I think. You know how long it would take to travel by conventional FTL across the diameter of the milky way? Like 30 years on the low end, and realistically more like 50 since you'd have to go around the galactic core on a curved trajectory.
So in Andromeda, civilizations of the same tech level as the Milky Way would NOT be galaxy spanning without a relay network or something analagous. Indeed, they would barely span much of a galactic arm. There could be supercivilizations that are galaxy spanning though. It opens up more possibilities for story and scale, I think.
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#32
Posté 24 juin 2015 - 05:47
The number of available stars/planets/clusters it's not very important.
What will make the difference is how big the single maps will be. The DA:I world is huge but if you think well it's just a small part of Thedas
#33
Posté 24 juin 2015 - 06:14
Andromeda has trillion of stars. Even if we're stick in 1% of it, we have material for new ME games there for the next 1000 years. Millions upon millions of stars with planetary systems. Absolutely impossible to run out of space for gameplay locations. Not sure why you're so worried. Is it just about the illusion of galaxy-spanning traversal as in ME3? (cause ME1 & ME2 were more limited, focusing mostly on select regions too)
This is correct. I think many people have some illusions about time and space on a cosmic scale. I've heard people say that we have already explored the entire Milky Way, because we were travelling across the galaxy, while visiting about 50 different star systems. This is ridiculous of course, since there are over 250 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy. BioWare basically threw away 250 billion star systems worth of exploration. Do we think Andromeda is an alien place? Well, guess what, the Milky Way is a very alien place as well.
I'm happy that we're not going to travel between star clusters. The initial intergalactic journey was more than enough!
#34
Posté 26 juin 2015 - 12:38
The reapers made the Council possible though because of the mass relays and citadel they left behind - there could still be a galactic government but it might not cover as much space as last time or be as effective in controlling Andromeda's species. There's also a chance that war could've destroyed whatever galactic government there once was thousands or millions of years ago.
It doesn't seem all that likely that war would have destroyed any governments built up in the thousands to millions to even billions of years they could have spurred up. Especially given that wars tend to actually have a victor.
I mean, yeah, the Reapers basically built the Council and all the governments that existed before the current and Prothean ones, but that very action shows that space-fairing species like to establish galactic governments. If left unchecked by Reapers, Andromeda should have established their own.
Having a galactic government for Andromeda actually doesn't make much sense; again, look at the U.S. it was discovered in 1492 - operated as colonies and mercantile ventures until the War of Independence. There wasn't actually a U.S. government until 1789.
I'm not understanding, you're telling me that species of the Andromeda, especially if there's space-fairing ones, wouldn't put two and two together and form a government to cooperate with (or dominate if they're more like the Empire) other space fairing species?
#35
Posté 26 juin 2015 - 01:28
The galaxy could develop in any number of ways. Without a readily available infrastructure like the mass relay network, most civilizations may simply be totally isolated despite achieving interstellar travel, so there may not even be a galactic central government. The Andromeda galaxy is younger than the Milky Way by approximately 5 billion years anyway so who knows.





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