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[Qun00]

What choices determine which grey warden it's gonna be?

[Dabrikishaw]

Hawke always dies now, even for Stroud. I can live with Varric taking off 20 approval for keeping the Wardens in Orlais.

[NaclynE]

Well after giving it some thought frankly i feel like it depends if I had Hawke support Anders or not. If I had Hawke support Anders in DA 2 he/she is a *****. Hawke comes across as a bloody terrorist help bent of destroying things for the quote on quote "greater good" on quote which sounds F'd up. If Hawke didn't support Anders he/she sounds ok in my book where they know right from wrong.

 

Terrorist Hawke= sacrifice Hawke.

Non terrorist Hawke= sacrifice warden ally.

[Solas]

What choices determine which grey warden it's gonna be?

I think if Alistair survives Origins and remains a GW rather than being made King, he's the Warden.

If Alistair is made King and Loghain was conscripted into the Wardens, he's the Warden.

If Alistair is King/dead/a drunk and Loghain was killed, Stroud's the Warden.

 

iirc

 

Personally I had romanced-with-still-alive-Mahariel Alistair vs Fenrismanced Hawke and noped the **** out of having to make THAT decision by making Alistair King-with-a-Mistress instead (sorry Stroud goodbye). Less ideal than my happy "Alistair and Mahariel continue to have Grey Warden adventures together" headcanon but better than the alternative.

 

/shakes fist jovially at Patrick Weekes   

 Why are you so intent on taking all my men away from meeee?! 

[Kukuru]

 

 

I left Loghain behind.

[Destiny Kaspar]

I always have the warden sacrifice himself, which is always Alistair for I am unintentionally mean to him. That cruelty started with Origins when I convinced him to give up his V card to Morrigan. 

Besides I couldn't allow Hawke to leave Fenris all alone. Especially remembering when Fenris said to her, "Promise me you won't die. I can't bare the thought of living without you." 

I do really like Alistair, and it is a hard decision. However, The Hero of Ferelden is still around somewhere so she could always come set the other Wardens straight since leadership is apparently an issue. 

[Augustei]

At first, I thought it was an easy choice.

Hawke already had his moment as a hero, and the wardens need someone to lead them into a new beginning.

But here is what makes this decision a little harder.

Hawke's death just seems to render the romance in DA2 pointless. Naturally, some of us would like it to be forever or at least last for a long time.

I'd say the same for the romance in other DA games.

Yeah cause Hawkes waifu's feels is much more important than the survival of the only order capable of stopping blights and thus the survival of well y'now... The world! But hey who am I to assume that the survival of the Only remaining senior Warden would be helpful in keeping the order from dying =P

[SgtSteel91]

Yeah cause Hawkes waifu's feels is much more important than the survival of the only order capable of stopping blights and thus the survival of well y'now... The world! But hey who am I to assume that the survival of the Only remaining senior Warden would be helpful in keeping the order from dying =P

 

To be fair, there's still Warden Constable Blackwall to fall back on 

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

To be fair, there's still Warden Constable Blackwall to fall back on 

As much as I like how Blackwall manage to talk down the Wardens at Adamant. I'm not counting on Tho-eh Blackwall to bullshit his way through anything again, as I lost half of my respect for him. I rather trust Stroud or Loghain with that much of the responsibility.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Yeah cause Hawkes waifu's feels is much more important than the survival of the only order capable of stopping blights and thus the survival of well y'now... The world! But hey who am I to assume that the survival of the Only remaining senior Warden would be helpful in keeping the order from dying =P

Pff even if entire order would fell apart they would be replaced by somone else after all joining won't vanish with grey wardens ,and as dao showed their order wasn't even necessary to end blight.Not to mention do you rly want to tell my alistair/loghain/stroud is only person in thedas that are capable of being leader...

[Qun00]

Yeah cause Hawkes waifu's feels is much more important than the survival of the only order capable of stopping blights and thus the survival of well y'now... The world! But hey who am I to assume that the survival of the Only remaining senior Warden would be helpful in keeping the order from dying =P

Isabela's boobs come first.

I've made my choice.

[Augustei]

Pff even if entire order would fell apart they would be replaced by somone else after all joining won't vanish with grey wardens ,and as dao showed their order wasn't even necessary to end blight.Not to mention do you rly want to tell my alistair/loghain/stroud is only person in thedas that are capable of being leader...

Wardens not necessary to end blight? Did we both play the same game? Pay attention myn, that whole only grey wardens can kill the Archdemon otherwise it just gets reborn in another darkspawn and is essentially immortal thing? Yeah that pretty much means they are needed to end the blight
If only it were so simple as "Ah we can recreate the joining" Considering the joining is such a big secret to the point state leaders don't even know what it involves I doubt the loss of such knowledge would be an obstacle so easily overcome.
Im basing this on the Senior Warden having the necessary knowledge of the orders protocols and secrets, like creating the joining and such. They don't tell that info to their lower ranks. But considering how much the Wardens were crapping themselves at the prospect of being without leadership, then yeah they also are probably the only ones that can lead them.

[Augustei]

Isabela's boobs come first.

I've made my choice.

Well you're honest, gotta respect that.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Wardens not necessary to end blight? Did we both play the same game? Pay attention myn, that whole only grey wardens can kill the Archdemon otherwise it just gets reborn in another darkspawn and is essentially immortal thing? Yeah that pretty much means they are needed to end the blight
If only it were so simple as "Ah we can recreate the joining" Considering the joining is such a big secret to the point state leaders don't even know what it involves I doubt the loss of such knowledge would be an obstacle so easily overcome.
Im basing this on the Senior Warden having the necessary knowledge of the orders protocols and secrets, like creating the joining and such. They don't tell that info to their lower ranks. But considering how much the Wardens were crapping themselves at the prospect of being without leadership, then yeah they also are probably the only ones that can lead them.

Nope they aren't necessary ,grey wardens are organization/order in reality all you need is man/woman that went through joining to deliver final blow as dao shows their order had no role in fifth blight save for dying when it started.

 

Hardly big secret a lot of people know about joining ,pretty much circle mages knew how to prepare it , anora knew about it (despite they painted it as big secret),even just senior warden had knowledge how to prepare it ,so such people like Varel knew how to prepare it or at least had people that knew how to do it.Not to mention wardens have archives.So even if grey warden will be gone there would be still people that know how to do it both among former wardens or outside people or even just in their archives.

 

Hardly again... all wardens in ferelden died including potential warden commander , what wardens do , they just send another warden from another country to be warden commander.There are wardens all over the world and there is new warden commander in ferelden in last flight at least if info about it is true ,so it isn't they can't send replacement.Hell they can even conscrpit ,after all you wouldn't even need to seek far as some people already pointed at blackwall.   

 

[Qun00]

Shouldn't DAO's Warden (in the scenario where s/he is alive) be more than capable to lead and rebuild the Order?

[SgtSteel91]

Shouldn't DAO's Warden (in the scenario where s/he is alive) be more than capable to lead and rebuild the Order?

 

That's partly another reason why I sacrificed the Warden contact and allied with the Wardens. The Inquisitor leads the Wardens temporarily before the HoF comes back from the West.

[Nixou]

Shouldn't DAO's Warden (in the scenario where s/he is alive) be more than capable to lead and rebuild the Order? 

 

 

Even if the HoF died at the end of Origins, isn't his/her replacement still alive and kicking during Inquisition?

[TheKomandorShepard]

That's partly another reason why I sacrificed the Warden contact and allied with the Wardens. The Inquisitor leads the Wardens temporarily before the HoF comes back from the West.

HoF was WC in ferelden and he got apparently replaced ,there are grey wardens all over the world by that time orlesian WC position will be already claimed.  

[Aren]

Agree. Gw are not necessary as an order to stop the blight ,individual who have performed the joining are enough.
In Dao there are only few individual not the entire order.