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#251
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I know, right?  I have my concerns and requests in DA, but this ME is a different matter.  The devs try for more or less practical armors for DA, and it works for that world.  However, when it came to armor in ME2 and beyond, most of that got tossed out of the airlock after ME2.  Most of them show some skin being exposed in the vacuum of space, save Shepard.  That alone negates most of the "realism" argument as far as I'm concerned.  I said most, because I am not a fan of boob windows in any case.  I know, Samara, but I thought that was too much.  Seriously, down to her navel?  WTH, old ME team?

dat Benezia outfit tho



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I know, right?  I have my concerns and requests in DA, but this ME is a different matter.  The devs try for more or less practical armors for DA, and it works for that world.  However, when it came to armor in ME2 and beyond, most of that got tossed out of the airlock after ME2.  Most of them show some skin being exposed in the vacuum of space, save Shepard.  That alone negates most of the "realism" argument as far as I'm concerned.  I said most, because I am not a fan of boob windows in any case.  I know, Samara, but I thought that was too much.  Seriously, down to her navel?  WTH, old ME team?

Yep. Even for DA it has been established as functional enough armor, due to it being mass-produced, so should be an option for players. But for ME there is no good reasoning against it since realism is either accounted for like shields taking most of the force, or ignored completely like some of the outfits. 



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Could you elaborate on the picture the film paints, and how it's feminist, exactly?


No, because people are having fun in this thread. While I'm certain it will survive a digression about shoes, I'm skeptical that it will survive a tangential argument about feminist themes in an entirely unrelated franchise.

I'll happily give you a couple of links to start off and leave it at that. There's lots more if you're interested, and it's not very hard to find.

http://www.theverge....-rights-boycott

http://www.buzzfeed....nd-the-feminist

I'd also just encourage you go see the film if you haven't. It's really brilliant.
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dat Benezia outfit tho

At least it wasn't exposed to her navel.  :P



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Mmm Benezia's boobies :P
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Hoo boy. Buzzfeed and the Verge. With very inflamatory headlines.

 

I was hoping for a bit more neutral source. And one that has less of a track record for consistently publishing moronic content.


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Hoo boy. Buzzfeed and the Verge. With very inflamatory headlines.

I was hoping for a bit more neutral source. And one that has less of a track record for consistently publishing moronic content.


Or you could do a google search yourself and find the Guardian article that I didn't post because it wasn't as good as either of these. Or the mountains of other material which, as I said, is there if you're actually interested.

Better yet, you could actually read them, and judge for yourself. No skin off my back, either way.

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I can believe that with with ancient, medieval armor, but with insulated padded, kevlar lined space armor that just happens to conform to the human body? 

 

Shapely Form fitting armor seems like it might be reasonable, with the right technology. 

 

I can concede to the consideration of technology. I am still skeptical since the armor in Mass Effects looks very hard/non-flexible, in which case a unisex chest plate that is convex from your vitals just seems more safe because of the direction of force upon impact. A hard chest plate shaped like boobs will send it to the place you want it last.
 

Well thank you, but the reason I'm asking for a recommendation is that I cannot stand any of that and would rather just trust someone who knows what they're talking about.

 

But GQ knows what they are talking about more than anyone lol...Anyhow I spose I can understand a dislike of reading magazines so some general pointers
Clarks desert boots are classic, go great with all pants
Frye harness boots are classic for a more grungy motorcycle look, both with pants tucked in and untucked
Combat boots in general are great, especially with pants tucked in. AllSaints are like the go-to fashion combat boot maker, more for a dressy look because they have wooden soles. For more functional ones with legit grip, Frye makes good lace up combat boots.
If you want to be a bit more preppy/clean cut, look up brogues/oxfords. Clarks makes nice ones
Nike and Adidas make the most tasteful/affordable sneakers IMO, some of their cleaner styles can go great with long jeans
For general fashion, look at anything sold by Zara. Almost anything they sell makes a decent compromise between price/quality/style/function
 



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My husband is tall with very big feet.  We're talking a size 15 (US).  He wears jeans, heavy metal t-shirts and button down long sleeves that are left open.  He wears socks with sandals, because they are one of the few shoes that fit him comfortably.  He's on the overnight shift, and his work doesn't care either.  He makes good money a year and is quite respected at his job as well.

 

I don't care what GQ says.  My husband doesn't give a crap about pleasing anyone with his "fashion" and I love him for it.  The most I make him "dress up" is to have him put on his nicest blue jeans, a black button-down that's, well, buttoned up and his Docs.  That's it.

 

My #1 problem with GQ and all of that is the prices.  Seriously, $50-$75 for a t-shirt because it has P. Diddy's name attached to it?  They don't push the more reasonably priced Nikes and other shoes, they make sure the promote the highest dollar ones.  $200 for a pair of tennis shoes?  While they may have some common sense, I would recommend that folks find such basic tips elsewhere.  Plus, dealing with 50+ pages out of a 75 page or so magazine with ads promising to bring out the "Real Man In You" by promoting the latest uber expensive fashionable bodywashes and shaving creams.   That's really silly and it's just as bad as the 50 out of 75 pages of Cosmo being dedicated to the "Real Woman in You" with tons of makeup and hair product ads.   :rolleyes:



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My husband is tall with very big feet.  We're talking a size 15 (US).  He wears jeans, heavy metal t-shirts and button down long sleeves that are left open.  He wears socks with sandals, because they are one of the few shoes that fit him comfortably.  He's on the overnight shift, and his work doesn't care either.  He makes good money a year and is quite respected at his job as well.

 

I don't care what GQ says.  My husband doesn't give a crap about pleasing anyone with his "fashion" and I love him for it.  The most I make him "dress up" is to have him put on his nicest blue jeans, a black button-down that's, well, buttoned up and his Docs.  That's it.

 

My #1 problem with GQ and all of that is the prices.  Seriously, $50-$75 for a t-shirt because it has P. Diddy's name attached to it?  They don't push the more reasonably priced Nikes and other shoes, they make sure the promote the highest dollar ones.  $200 for a pair of tennis shoes?  While they may have some common sense, I would recommend that folks find such basic tips elsewhere.  Plus, dealing with 50+ pages out of a 75 page or so magazine with ads promising to bring out the "Real Man In You" by promoting the latest uber expensive fashionable bodywashes and shaving creams.   That's really silly and it's just as bad as the 50 out of 75 pages of Cosmo being dedicated to the "Real Woman in You" with tons of makeup and hair product ads.   :rolleyes:


I did not mean for my promotion of GQ to offend anyone as if I believe a magazine is the way to "make you a man" with said product, or can convince anyone to buy a $200 white Tshirt. In my original post I referenced GQ as a means of inspiration rather than a means to a slavish commercial lifestyle.

Good style comes from good design, and good design comes from the marriage of aesthetic concepts, construction, and fabrication. Some define design as the marriage of art and science, whether its clothes, buildings, products, and more. It's incredibly hard to construct a well-made anything, and the price goes higher when you use high-performance materials or innovative construction. And if you are not backed by a corporation conglomerate like H&M or Uniqlo, you can bet it's going to be a high price point, and therefore less accessible.

Nevertheless, It's unfortunate that the world of fashion has gotten so mixed up with the sorry world of consumerism, and that's why you have ridiculously priced plain t shirts and brand-whoring in general, and drowning artistic fashion editorials in millions of ads, but I guess that's how brands and publications make money. But at the end of the day, the most renowned publications for the most part are run by talented artists who promote talented designers (which is why I certainly wouldn't equate GQ with Cosmo, but more with Elle) and that is the only reason I'd promote any publication.

Now to be more on topic

Practical foot armour for players and Npcs. The option of both feminine and masculine, relating to "Gender" in the title.

There you go. Discuss ;)


If I can go back to my pet peeve about video game high heels...there are plenty of ways to make 'practical foot armor' more "feminine" than their masculine counterparts without adding some friggin 3" heel to them. Sneaker brands kind of make a good example out of this. They make gender differentiations with shape (like mens shoes tend to be chunkier) and have all sorts of interesting design details, while obviously staying uber practical....just stay away from heels :wacko:


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Better yet, you could actually read them, and judge for yourself. No skin off my back, either way.

 

Mmm. Read the articles, as well as the antifeminist blog post they were responding to, which was surprising short and shallow for the reaction it apparently elicited.

 

I'm assuming the film ends with the protagonists assaulting the fortress of the psychotic bandit leader, killing him, and establishing an oasis of peace in a nightmare of war, with Max departing.



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Everyone's talking about $150 shoes and boots and I'm just sitting breaking people's ankles with my 2015 JorNike 911s.

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My husband is tall with very big feet.  We're talking a size 15 (US).  He wears jeans, heavy metal t-shirts and button down long sleeves that are left open.  He wears socks with sandals, because they are one of the few shoes that fit him comfortably.  He's on the overnight shift, and his work doesn't care either.  He makes good money a year and is quite respected at his job as well.

 

I don't care what GQ says.  My husband doesn't give a crap about pleasing anyone with his "fashion" and I love him for it.  The most I make him "dress up" is to have him put on his nicest blue jeans, a black button-down that's, well, buttoned up and his Docs.  That's it.

 

My #1 problem with GQ and all of that is the prices.  Seriously, $50-$75 for a t-shirt because it has P. Diddy's name attached to it?  They don't push the more reasonably priced Nikes and other shoes, they make sure the promote the highest dollar ones.  $200 for a pair of tennis shoes?  While they may have some common sense, I would recommend that folks find such basic tips elsewhere.  Plus, dealing with 50+ pages out of a 75 page or so magazine with ads promising to bring out the "Real Man In You" by promoting the latest uber expensive fashionable bodywashes and shaving creams.   That's really silly and it's just as bad as the 50 out of 75 pages of Cosmo being dedicated to the "Real Woman in You" with tons of makeup and hair product ads.   :rolleyes:

 

GQ is a good resource IMO only in the sense that it has a certain style and is pretty accessible as a way for getting a feel to it. You can build the same looks you find there for a third of the price with the same or greater quality. But there's no actual need to buy it to get that value. A google search will pretty much get you a flavour for what to shop for without wasting your $$. 


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Mmm Benezia's boobies :P

 

Your avatar is disturbing but I can´t look away.



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I want twin sister of EDI in my team...............................with romance option

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I want twin sister of EDI in my team...............................with romance option

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Are you sure you want that?  You know the twin will be evil.

 



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Does that mean I want someone like Aria for a companion? Yes, maybe it does.  :ph34r:

 

I love Aria. Seriously... if it was possible in the game, she'd be my LI every single time.

 

Do I want a copy of her in ME:A? I don't know. I don't think that would work, I'd always compare her to Aria.


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Are you sure you want that?  You know the twin will be evil.

evil maybe...... but cute, worth of humanising.

I really enjoyed watching Joker/EDI relationship... with envy

I love Aria. Seriously... if it was possible in the game, she'd be my LI every single time.

 

Do I want a copy of her in ME:A? I don't know. I don't think that would work, I'd always compare her to Aria.

Aria without OMEGA? That wouldn't work.

w8... maybe whole Omega would be by some accident teleported to Andromeda and all ppl will be happy. All known races in Milky Way would be existing in  Andromeda and Atria would be playable character running interstellar bawdy house on galactic scale.... Hmm nice concept for a spin off ME:A or DLC OMEGA :A plus it would solve problem of how many playable  should we have ....all of them


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I love Aria. Seriously... if it was possible in the game, she'd be my LI every single time.

 

Do I want a copy of her in ME:A? I don't know. I don't think that would work, I'd always compare her to Aria.

well, she seems to prefer ladies  :P .



I think there's a little room for headcanon there.

 



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People think that high heels are uncomfortable. They haven't tried this Chinese traditional shoes back in the day. The things people do for beauty.

 

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Spoiler

 

Second picture can be a bit gross so I put it in a spoiler.



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well, she seems to prefer ladies  :P .



I think there's a little room for headcanon there.

 

 

I know. Guess why I played a renegade FemShep just for her. :P


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People think that high heels are uncomfortable. They haven't tried this Chinese traditional shoes back in the day. The things people do for beauty.

 

Second picture can be a bit gross so I put it in a spoiler.

Ah, footbinding... lasted until the early 20th Century, I believe.



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Should there be Asari with male body types?

Should we have boob armour?

Should there be more female turian characters?

Discuss.

1. Monogendered species who all appear female so no. A more masculine Asari...hmm...I suppose but cliche for that one would be offensively obvious for some

2.Not an acutal problem. Imo, I imagine the material for armor in ME is far tougher than the stuff in DA

3.I simply want this, I actually want Nyreen when she was introduced in Omega DLC, then she died :(

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I love Aria. Seriously... if it was possible in the game, she'd be my LI every single time.
 
Do I want a copy of her in ME:A? I don't know. I don't think that would work, I'd always compare her to Aria.


I completely agree. I also like to think that she developed as a character in a paragon play through, so Id prefer to leave her untouched. There's definitely no duplicating Aria.

Mentioning her wasn't my most earnest request. I would be most pleased to have an Asari companion completely unlike any we've seen before.
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I completely agree. I also like to think that she developed as a character in a paragon play through, so Id prefer to leave her untouched. There's definitely no duplicating Aria.

Mentioning her wasn't my most earnest request. I would be most pleased to have an Asari companion completely unlike any we've seen before.

 

Tela Vasir should've lived and become a companion :(


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