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[WittyUsername]

I'm still unsure what hipsters really are. The definition seems to be different each time I hear it.

[daveliam]

I'm still unsure what hipsters really are. The definition seems to be different each time I hear it.

 

I'm pretty sure it usually means, "Person who doesn't like the popular thing that I like."

[Medhia_Nox]

@daveliam:  I think it's more than that... I think they're arrogant counter-culture snobs who parade their own fashion sense around while critiquing "big business" for turning everyone into mindless sheeple, like art because being seen as cultural is just tres tres chic and yet despise "sell outs", have names and titles for every little attribute from "I only eat X." to "my sexuality is really Y" and yet... they'll claim to hate labels. 

[WittyUsername]

Ah. Then maybe I am.

 

Though it's not exactly the fact the thing is popular more as like, "I can't stop hearing something so I grew a distaste for it." You eat cake enough times you'll start to dislike cake.

[Dean_the_Young]

Do you mean we inexplicably run into a race in Andromeda that looks like Asari, but are male, or assume some of these new male Asari hitch a ride with humanity?  To be honest, either way I am kind of opposed to the idea for, uh, reasons.

 

If they are male Asari, not sure why we'd want boob armor.  Well, I guess if they have man boobs like the male elves in Inquisition.  Eh, I think I'll pass on male boob armor.  Let's limit that to the ladies who also have the power of the uterus to protect them.

 

I'm ambivalent about the turians in general, so I'll refrain from answering that one.

 

I propose the Manari.

 

A race of body-builders with mediterranean tans who are masculine, smart, have telepathic powers to know exactly what women want, total heart-throbs, work as male strippers for the sexually repressed of all races, and have the totally sensible ability to impregnate any other species regardless of gender by touch alone, with each offspring being genetically Manari.

[Jester]

What the heck is CIS male?? 

A term made by people who though it would be cool to use chemistry nomenclature when talking about social issues, and made is as an opposite to 'trans male'.

 

 

Why just female turian? Why not more?

I'd like female krogan and female salarians that aren't just male models covered in robes for ambiguity and laziness on Bioware's part.

Honestly, most likely female salarians don't differ much from their male counterparts. They are pretty much based on amphibians, which don't have much of a sexual dimorphism.

[daveliam]

I propose the Manari.

 

A race of body-builders with mediterranean tans who are masculine, smart, have telepathic powers to know exactly what women want, total heart-throbs, work as male strippers for the sexually repressed of all races, and have the totally sensible ability to impregnate any other species regardless of gender by touch alone, with each offspring being genetically Manari.

 

They have to be bisexual so that their sexual prowess has the max effect.  But let's pretend that this doesn't actually make them bisexual since they are 'aliens' (and because that might turn off some of the customer base).

 

And I propose making them green (or red?) since they have to be Star Trek style 'aliens'.

 

Other than that, I approve wholeheartedly of this proposal.

[Ridwan]

A woman can look good and still be able to fight. 

 

[Xen]

Asari being retconned into fanservice beefcakes is a brilliant idea but would instantly lose most of the mouth breathing male fanbase

 

adding boob armour could then bring said fanbase back

 

femturians are cool, moar of them plz. They could replace the asari to bring the gender ratio back to a more even level.

[Jester]

They have to be bisexual so that their sexual prowess has the max effect.  But let's pretend that this doesn't actually make them bisexual since they are 'aliens' (and because that might turn off some of the customer base).

I always considered relationships with Asari to be mostly platonic.

They definately want more of a mental than physical contact - and don't care all that much for the latter - hence several mentions of Asari - Krogan relationships. They are pretty much impossible when it come to any physical love, but both races live for like a millenium, so Asari don't have to deal with the loss of a partner, and don't engage in taboo Asari-Asari relationships (all while Krogans have children with them - blue children, but children nonetheless - which they would be unable to have otherwise). 

[Thetford]

I always thought Asari existed as an all female race just because resources were limited on the first game and could only do one gender of each alien race and didn't want space to be a total sausage fest.

[daveliam]

I always considered relationships with Asari to be mostly platonic.

They definately want more of a mental than physical contact - and don't care all that much for the latter - hence several mentions of Asari - Krogan relationships. They are pretty much impossible when it come to any physical love, but both races live for like a millenium, so Asari don't have to deal with the loss of a partner, and don't engage in taboo Asari-Asari relationships (all while Krogans have children with them - blue children, but children nonetheless - which they would be unable to have otherwise). 

 

I totally hear what you are saying.  But I wonder how well that argument would hold up if the Manari show up.  Would most straight guys be okay with romancing them since they'd be 'monogendered' and the relationship isn't really sexual (despite the race being sexualized)?  It's just an interesting "What if the shoe was on the other foot" situation in this case, that's all. 

[WittyUsername]

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Honestly, most likely female salarians don't differ much from their male counterparts. They are pretty much based on amphibians, which don't have much of a sexual dimorphism.

 

Same could be said for turians, which are apparently based off birds (though I retain they look more like Bug-men). Birds tend to only have color and pattern differences.

 

Besides, we can't ignore their "human" half, either. Don't promote more Bioware laziness.

[FKA_Servo]

I always thought Asari existed as an all female race just because resources were limited on the first game and could only do one gender of each alien race and didn't want space to be a total sausage fest.

 

This is possibly the case for all the dumpy ones, but I'm pretty certain that the Asari were conceived as an explicit call back to the "aliens are sexy women in body paint" trope. A la Star Trek TOS.

[General TSAR]

I personally absolutely love it, I wish humans were monogendered too, it fixes so many social problems. 

HAHAHAHAHA.....no.

 

If you are talking about gender as in ''gender and not sex'' then they are genderless. They can be feminine and/or masculine by modern standards and dress however they like. 

They are all female, monogendered is the BW PC term for it.

[Jester]

I totally hear what you are saying.  But I wonder how well that argument would hold up if the Manari show up.  Would most straight guys be okay with romancing them since they'd be 'monogendered' and the relationship isn't really sexual (despite the race being sexualized)?  It's just an interesting "What if the shoe was on the other foot" situation in this case, that's all. 

I wouldn't (I'm unable to roleplay a male-male romance). My argument was that basically on the Asari side, the relationship is mostly platonic. On the human side - not so much. 

Also, in ME2 there is a dialogue in the club, where Human, Turian and Salarian are watching an Asari dancer, and each one is certain, that Asari resemble his own race, and is therefore attractive to him. That would not work, if said Asari looked like a male, now would it?

However I'm pretty certain, that Asari maiden dance around in clubs and are sexualized, as a form of finding a partner (and apparently it works on most races, through different means).

 

In another thread, I stated my theory, that Asari evolved to be as attractive as possible for a wide variety of organisms - so it's easier for them to breed. On the other hand, other Asari developed defense mechanism against that, because for an Asari it is good to meld in such a way as to have children, not give children (because then you either have to leave your partner, or you raise a kid not connected to you genetically). Therefore Asari would, for evolutionary reasons, avoid 'breeding' with their own species - and seek other partners instead.

This formed a social taboo for 'pureblood' relationships (such as we humans developed a social taboo for incest, that comes from evolutionary reasons that discourage us from having sex with our close family).

This all leads to my suspicion, that before Asari discovered other species, they used to 'meld' with other fauna on Thessia (which can in some ways be considered zoophilia) - especially before actually developing a culture. 

 

And how do Ardat Yakshi fit into all of this?

It would basically be another reason why Asari-Asari mating would be genetically unfavorable (Ardat Yakshi are sterile, and both "parents" must be Asari).

It is clearly a genetic illness (all of Samara's children are Ardat Yakshi) - activated by melding with another Asari DNA. However without knowing how exactly the Asari breeding process work, I cannot say more. 

That would mean, that the gene can spread in the population - similarly as recessive lethal genes can spread in human populations (because it has to be activated by melding with another Asari DNA, otherwise it's dormant). It would be another genetical reason for why genes favoring Asari looking for another Asari partners would have reduced frequency in population - it bears risk of having sterile children - and therefore in that particular line both the Ardat Yakshi gene and 'find an Asari partner gene' would be removed from the gene pool. 

It also explains why there are so few Ardat Yakshi now:

1. Gene is slowly removed from the population (Ardat Yakshi that is born, cannot spread it further)

2. Gene requires rare 'pureblood' breeding.

3. Each time Ardat Yakshi gene is removed, gene favoring 'pureblood' relationships is also removed.

 

So yeah, here's some of my science fiction babble.

[FKA_Servo]

They are all female, monogendered is the BW PC term for it.

 

I don't know how "monogendered" is necessarily PC (I suspect that the writers assumed, probably correctly, that the majority of players are too dumb to understand "monosexed," or the differences between sex and gender).

 

Doesn't Mass Effect predate the time when Bioware wandered off into Ess Jay Dubya lala land, anyway?

[SerriceIceDandy]

Race/Ethnicity: It would be good to see a greater variety of humans. Asia, and not just the east, could do with being represented a bit more seeing as China and India alone account for about 2 billion people today.

Gender/Sex: Just having a NPCs/background that are of each gender of Alien races would be an improvement.

Sexuality: Keep up the representation in the squadmates, as well as NPCs!

By Asari with 'male body types', did OP mean a more masculine/androgynous appearance rather than just being 'male'? If so, that could work. See FFXIV's Roegadyn (broader, taller etc).

Bye bye boob armour; t'is a silly thing. Unless we can get something for the guys to balance it out..? BATTLE CODPIECES.
 

[FKA_Servo]

Bye bye boob armour; t'is a silly thing. Unless we can get something for the guys to balance it out..? BATTLE CODPIECES.

 

This. See, I've long been a proponent for adding more ridiculous armor as opposed to removing some.

[Xen]

I always considered relationships with Asari to be mostly platonic.

They definately want more of a mental than physical contact - and don't care all that much for the latter - hence several mentions of Asari - Krogan relationships. They are pretty much impossible when it come to any physical love, but both races live for like a millenium, so Asari don't have to deal with the loss of a partner, and don't engage in taboo Asari-Asari relationships (all while Krogans have children with them - blue children, but children nonetheless - which they would be unable to have otherwise). 

hahahah no. Clearly you didn't watch Liara's sex scenes or hear that krogan complaining that asari are too squishy and it's hard to get a decent grip.

Asari are there for male fanservice and gratutious stripper and blue humour (lolirony get it?) jokes. That is their purpose in the setting. If we are to be fair, we need ridiculous blue beefcake aliens as well.

[Jester]

Asari are there for male fanservice and gratutious stripper and blue humour (lolirony get it?) jokes. That is their purpose in the setting. If we are to be fair, we need ridiculous blue beefcake aliens as well.

And I will argue, that they are a well thought out race.

Monogendered males would need a good explanation, because being a female is a 'fundamental' or 'primary' (I lack a good word here) gender. At least on Earth. 

What I mean is that it's males who need additional genetical information - and that in very early stages of fetus development, it has all-female characteristics (and not only humans or even mammals, but most organisms repreducing sexually with visible sexual dimorphism). 

 

hahahah no. Clearly you didn't watch Liara's sex scenes or hear that krogan complaining that asari are too squishy and it's hard to get a decent grip

 

That's more of a problem with oversexualization of Mass Effect universe in general. 

Garrus sex scene makes no sense either. It felt awkwardly forced, even in dialogue, like both sides just wanted a platonic relationship, not to mention it would not work ekhm... mechanically. Like, at all.