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[rashie]

Indoctrination Theory is still a thing?

 

I thought people would have managed to let go after 3 years.

[NeonFlux117]

Indoctrination Theory is still a thing?

 

I thought people would have managed to let go after 3 years.

 

The truth always finds a way.

 

You can't stop the signal.

 

 

Anyways..... So, like Shepard completed his journey and task and fulfilled his/her "destiny".

 

 

You... Found it.

 

You.... Built it

 

You.... Brought them.

 

You.... Activated it.

 

 

The rest.. As they say, is history and nothing but dust on cosmic winds. Look at it as a sort of warped Rorschach test. Just take solace in knowing that you never really had a choice in the "path" you "chose". After all....

 

YOU EVOLVE ALONG THE PATHS WE DESIRE.

[Linkenski]

Indoctrination Theory makes more sense than Ark Theory, so if between the two I'm for IT.

Neither theory is going to be applied. ME:A is going to be a soft reboot that slightly discarded the events of the trilogy and probably leaves it up to the fans to theorized how we got from a to b. Remember, Walters is in charge and he's all about them speculations from everyone. I hope he's happy with all these asinine and convoluted fan theories of insanity at this point.

[The Heretic of Time]

WTF is an Ark Theory?

 

And what's up with all these different "theories"? I've seen the indoctrination theory, the puzzle theory, the con theory and now the ark theory? When does this madness ever end?

[Torgette]

WTF is an Ark Theory?

 

And what's up with all these different "theories"? I've seen the indoctrination theory, the puzzle theory, the con theory and now the ark theory? When does this madness ever end?

 

Ark Theory was people guessing where they could make a sequel without touching the milky way (hence, Andromeda). It's no longer really a theory obviously, all the other theories are about the ending of ME3 because people were unhappy with the endings and had a lot of free time I guess.

 

Personally I didn't mind the pre-EC endings, and i'm happy with the post-EC endings, moved on awhile ago.

[CrutchCricket]

Why is this still a thing?

[Ithurael]

WTF is an Ark Theory?

 

And what's up with all these different "theories"? I've seen the indoctrination theory, the puzzle theory, the con theory and now the ark theory? When does this madness ever end?

 

Surely you did not forget Dinosaur Theory?

 

IMHO, the single greatest theory & interpretation in the great history of BSN theories.

[Kabooooom]

Ark Theory was people guessing where they could make a sequel without touching the milky way (hence, Andromeda). It's no longer really a theory obviously, all the other theories are about the ending of ME3 because people were unhappy with the endings and had a lot of free time I guess.

Personally I didn't mind the pre-EC endings, and i'm happy with the post-EC endings, moved on awhile ago.

Yep, it correctly predicted Andromeda, but the other facet of it is WHY we went there - to escape the Reapers as a contingency p\an.

That latter part has not been proven yet. But it probably will be. This was all called a year ago. Why? I've said it before and I'll say it again: It is predictable.

[Franky Figgs]

Why is this still a thing?

Because the developers designed a story that invited speculation.

[N7Jamaican]

Shepard wakes up and starts rapping "It was all a dream, I used to read Fornax magazine..."

[Torgette]

Yep, it correctly predicted Andromeda, but the other facet of it is WHY we went there - to escape the Reapers as a contingency p\an.

That latter part has not been proven yet. But it probably will be. This was all called a year ago. Why? I've said it before and I'll say it again: It is predictable.

 

I think regardless of when it takes place it's obviously as a reaction to the events of the trilogy - both in universe (escape negative consequences of war) and meta writing (avoiding controversy). Personally if it takes place after the war I still wouldn't mind a canon-ending approach without touching the milky way - if they did a canon-ending and stayed there they would essentially be closing the door on the other two endings, whereas going to Andromeda leaves that door open forever (which I think is the point).

[DarthSliver]

WTF is an Ark Theory?

 

And what's up with all these different "theories"? I've seen the indoctrination theory, the puzzle theory, the con theory and now the ark theory? When does this madness ever end?

 

 

Well you gotta remember IT exist because the big red button brought us up to the Starkid and didn't nuke the Reapers like we were told it would do throughout the game. IT exist due to poor writing, like the writers working on ME series decided one night to finish the story while they were completely wasted and hoped we didn't notice. Our assets massing that we did through ME3 could've been what we needed to have so we would be able to reach and press the big red button that destroyed the Reapers. Its because they didn't have it all lead up to destroying the Reapers that too leads us to needing to go to ME:A 

 

The EC didn't answer anything it only expanded on the RGB, nothing more and nothing less. It is why the IT wasn't discarded and nothing to do with people being nutjobs, maybe only in finding "new evidence" but still the point is there.

 

You call IT people crazy but remember Andromeda is happening because of the endings we got, many theories that you have seen like IT were set out to also explain and solidify our stay in the Milky Way Galaxy. 

[Little Princess Peach]

Na na na na Bioware trolled you!

get over it new story new pc new everything move on forget shepard ever happened

[DarthSliver]

Na na na na Bioware trolled you!

get over it new story new pc new everything move on forget shepard ever happened

 

if thats the case then what is the point of wanting to get ME:A they trolled us once with ME3 endings who to say they won't do it again. Making the investment in Andromeda pointless 

[Hadeedak]

if thats the case then what is the point of wanting to get ME:A they trolled us once with ME3 endings who to say they won't do it again. Making the investment in Andromeda pointless 

 

Because Mass Effect is fun?

 

Just sayin'.

[DarthSliver]

Because Mass Effect is fun?

 

Just sayin'.

 

Well in my previous post before that response I present the reason why IT was even started and why it continued after the EC. I only defend IT not because I like it but for the reason why it was started. 

 

I will admit after awhile ITers were becoming nutjobs trying to find reason for the theory to be true in almost everything. But we should remember the reason why IT and many other theories were started. It was because of that Random Starkid at the end of the ME3 when you were pressing that button of Reaper doom, which turned out to be a Starkid instead of Reaper doom.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

How do you figure that? Quite honestly I think the Ark theory makes a lot of sense. Plus it's really the only way ME:A can sidestep the endings in a believable way besides just blatantly ignoring them.

 

The indoctrination theory has never made sense; People that believe it does are just ignoring blatant evidence. On two separate occasions Vendetta points out that Shepard is not indoctrinated, once on Thessia and again in TIM's office. Not to mention the star child AI at the end says about TIM, "he could never control us because we already controlled him."

 

Also, the IT is a wayyyy worse ending. It doesn't resolve anything. Shepard is just indoctrinated? Yeah, real great improvement  .

 

Plus it doesn't solve the question: "How does Shepard and company stop the Reapers?" all the IT is a reset to have an injured Shepard laying the ruins near the teleporter in London.  

[Lunch Box1912]

Plus it doesn't solve the question: "How does Shepard and company stop the Reapers?" all the IT is a reset to have an injured Shepard laying the ruins near the teleporter in London.  

 

Wouldn't the fact that there is an ark fleeing the Milky way galaxy support the indoctrination theory, ie Shepard was indoctrinated and the crucible never fires.  The ending was left rather ambiguous.   

[AlanC9]

Wouldn't the fact that there is an ark fleeing the Milky way galaxy support the indoctrination theory, ie Shepard was indoctrinated and the crucible never fires.  The ending was left rather ambiguous.

That's why the Ark will leave before the Crucible fires.

[Kabooooom]

That's why the Ark will leave before the Crucible fires.

Yep. I'm wondering if the start of the game will even be in the MW as **** is going sideways at the end of the Reaper war. Maybe while the Citadel is falling, you escape, go to the ark, hop on it and traverse a Remnant relay or something to Andromeda. That would solidify a link between the prior story and this one.

Alternatively, it will just begin in Andromeda and the back story will be something like "they left during the Reaper war and it took centuries to get here".

Or, they may just leave it a total unknown. But I hope not.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

The truth always finds a way.

 

You can't stop the signal.

 

 

Anyways..... So, like Shepard completed his journey and task and fulfilled his/her "destiny".

 

 

You... Found it.

 

You.... Built it

 

You.... Brought them.

 

You.... Activated it.

 

 

The rest.. As they say, is history and nothing but dust on cosmic winds. Look at it as a sort of warped Rorschach test. Just take solace in knowing that you never really had a choice in the "path" you "chose". After all....

 

YOU EVOLVE ALONG THE PATHS WE DESIRE.

 

Ah, damn. I was totally going to post something like "inb4 TurianRebel212 a.k.a. NeonFlux117 a.k.a. BirdsalSa parodies the average IT'er by replying to this thread," but forgot to. Too bad.

[mickey111]

Shepard died, get over it already.

[Kabooooom]

Shepard died, get over it already.

Twice, even.

[AlanC9]

Yep. I'm wondering if the start of the game will even be in the MW as **** is going sideways at the end of the Reaper war. Maybe while the Citadel is falling, you escape, go to the ark, hop on it and traverse a Remnant relay or something to Andromeda. That would solidify a link between the prior story and this one.

I'll go with the speculation from that other thread. The opening shot of ME:A will be of the asari councilor talking to Shepard about plans for continuity of civilization (Shepard's conveniently out of the frame). Then she cuts Shepard off, places a call to this other project, and we're all set for the pregame exposition dump.

[DarthSliver]

Yep. I'm wondering if the start of the game will even be in the MW as **** is going sideways at the end of the Reaper war. Maybe while the Citadel is falling, you escape, go to the ark, hop on it and traverse a Remnant relay or something to Andromeda. That would solidify a link between the prior story and this one.

Alternatively, it will just begin in Andromeda and the back story will be something like "they left during the Reaper war and it took centuries to get here".

Or, they may just leave it a total unknown. But I hope not.

 

They are not going to touch the endings with a 20ft steel pole. How we left might just be backgrounds we have to discover for the people who want detail know-how, but brief for everyone who just don't care and want to play the game.