Because one of the core tenants of IT is that Shepard will "break free"* of indoctrination by picking destroy and "continuing the fight" with some post-release DLC or future game.
* Which completely contradicts lore as the only case of someone doing that is with the Thorian and seeing as how it's extinct....
You underestimate Shepards Heroism
Technically the ending of ME3 as it exists already is 3 very black & white happy endings and 1 bad one.
If they wanted to be dark, then all 3 would have negative repercussions of some kind - but alas there are no real negative repercussions to speak of.
I'm sure blowing up the mass relays and destroying half the galaxy including your geth and fembot buddies has no negative repercussions.
I'm sure becoming the space gestapo with giant mechanical squids as the new galaxy's police force has no negative repercussions.
I'm sure scrambling everyone's DNA and turning the whole galaxy in Dr. Gero's creations has no negative repercussions.
On the Spectre terminal in the Citadel, one of the messages talks about how the war effort(which the Crucible Project is a part of since it is an Anti-Reaper superweapon) is straining the galaxy's infrastructure and economy to the point that if the war goes for more than a year it will collapse entirely. So if we add the Arkl Project to that, we would cripple the galaxy even though we won.
It would be bigger, actually. With the Crucible Project, we were practically spoonfed how to make one thanks to the schematics. With the Ark Project, we would have to develop everything ourselves, including technology we have no idea how it works like a FTL drive that doesn't need to discharge.
When it comes to things like a Relay that links to Andromeda or a wormhole or etc, I don't consider that part of the Ark Theory since an ark isn't required anymore.
Phlease. Ark Theory was the main topic where people were speculatin/betting on galaxy swap as one of the "ingredients" of side stepping the endings. Score 1 for us, IT: still lonely 0.
I'm sure blowing up the mass relays and destroying half the galaxy including your geth buddies and fembot buddy has no negative repercussions.
I'm sure becoming the space gestapo with giant mechanical squids as the new galaxy's police force has no negative repercussions.
I'm sure scrambling everyone's DNA and turning the whole galaxy in Dr. Gero's creations has no negative repercussions.
Geth and EDI had it coming. & Nah being A god has no negative reprocussions
I'm sure blowing up the mass relays and destroying half the galaxy including your geth buddies and fembot buddy has no negative repercussions.
Eh One of those are already dead and the other is no great loss.
#GenocideFetishist #Luddite
Because one of the core tenants of IT is that Shepard will "break free"* of indoctrination by picking destroy and "continuing the fight" with some post-release DLC or future game.
* Which completely contradicts lore as the only case of someone doing that is with the Thorian and seeing as how it's extinct....
Except for the times he doesn't pick Destroy and therefore never breaks free. That's not happy. I hate the "rocks fall everyone dies" endings, but sometimes they make sense.
And to be honest, I'd rather have an ending that's at least interesting than an ending that's just bad. See: Neverwinter Nights 2
This is just reminding me how much I was disappointed with the ME3 endings and the false advertising of them before the game launched.
Ergh. I'm going back to my Discover Andromeda thread. It is a happy place, free of Reaper mind tricks.
Eh One of those are already dead and the other is no great loss.
#GenocideFetishist #Luddite
Fair enough. I feel the same way. But I'm sure not everyone agrees with us.
I'm sure blowing up the mass relays and destroying half the galaxy including your geth buddies and fembot buddy has no negative repercussions.
I'm sure becoming the space gestapo with giant mechanical squids as the new galaxy's police force has no negative repercussions.
I'm sure scrambling everyone's DNA and turning the whole galaxy in Dr. Gero's creations has no negative repercussions.
Pre-EC you could headcanon those things happening, post-EC undermines negative repercussions though - but defeating the Reapers is the only thing that really matters in ME, so yes they're all still happy endings regardless of how grimdark you can headcanon.
IT can be even darker than any of the endings as it conotates the Reapers winning the war (re: Crucible never fired).
Pre-EC you could headcanon those things happening, post-EC undermines negative repercussions though.
IT can be even darker than any of the endings as it conotates the Reapers winning the war (re: Crucible never fired).
Post-EC those things still happen.
IT isn't dark, just silly and nonsensical.
Energy is only needed for acceleration or course-corrections. Moving at a constant speed in near-vaccum is not energy-intensive. ("Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a ****** in space!")
And stasis pods would be inside the ship, so they'd be wrapped in any time dilation and would not need to experience a million years of real time passing for them -- there is no "universe's timeflow" (just that of an external observer, which the ship would not actually experience, according to the physics).
(And I'm not saying I'm sure this is how they'll do it. I just think it's a lot more plausible than you're giving it credit for. And for the record, I don't mind indoctrination theory either. I understand why people who feel strongly about player agency hate it, but I don't mind that some people like it. If they can come up with a solution that doesn't disprove it, then I think that would be preferable.)
Well, you'd need occasional bursts of speed since due to the universe only being a near vacuum, there is still stuff we would run into and slightly slow us down since millions of years of that would add up. Plus you'd need to start slowing down at around the half way point which would require a lot of energy as well.
Energy goes at the speed of light, so it would have to slow down the faster you go due to the light barrier, which means you'd actually need more energy than the trip would take.
Is it plausible? Absolutely. It's soft science fiction so anything is plausible. But it runs into problems that the lore has established. As for the various theories, I don't care who believes what. I've always had the position that "All interpretations are equally valid". Not only because it allows more people to enjoy the game, but because Bioware wanted exactly this speculation from fans.
I've enjoyed discuissing this by the way. It's fun to discuss astronomy and astronomical physics. 
Phlease. Ark Theory was the main topic where people were speculatin/betting on galaxy swap as one of the "ingredients" of side stepping the endings. Score 1 for us, IT: still lonely 0.
People have been speculating about traveling to other galaxies since ME1. Ark Theory doesn't have claim over anything that involves going to a different galaxy.
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Because one of the core tenets of IT is that Shepard will "break free"* of indoctrination by picking destroy and "continuing the fight" with some post-release DLC or future game.
For the record, this is the first time I've ever heard that, and if most of the ITers think that, then I'm newly (and deeply) disappointed in them.
I think IT made a kind of beautiful sense as far as a dark horror style apocalyptic ending in which we play through the utter defeat of Shepherd and the complete annihilation of the citadel races, and I could respect it on that level. But then, I also really like survival horror games and good horror movies -- the good guys do not always need to win for the story to be good.
For the record, this is the first time I've ever heard that, and if most of the ITers think that, then I'm newly (and deeply) disappointed in them.
I think IT made a kind of beautiful sense as far as a dark horror style apocalyptic ending in which we play through the utter defeat of Shepherd and the complete annihilation of the citadel races, and I could respect it on that level. But then, I also really like survival horror games and good horror movies -- the good guys do not always need to win for the story to be good.
You could go either way with it, that's our point; were not all happy enders
For the record, this is the first time I've ever heard that, and if most of the ITers think that, then I'm newly (and deeply) disappointed in them.
I think IT made a kind of beautiful sense as far as a dark horror style apocalyptic ending in which we play through the utter defeat of Shepherd and the complete annihilation of the citadel races, and I could respect it on that level. But then, I also really like survival horror games and good horror movies -- the good guys do not always need to win for the story to be good.
Except Mass Effect has never been a horror game and we already know for a fact that none of the races in ME are completely annihilated (watch the latest ME4 trailer released during the E3).
So yeah, any validity for the IT just pretty much flew out of the window. Not that the IT had any validity to begin with.
Post-EC those things still happen.
IT isn't dark, just silly and nonsensical.
Speaking of missing the point... you defeat the reapers in 3 of the endings, and don't in one. In all 3 endings where the reapers are defeated life goes on in one form or another - free to make mistakes and/or do bad things to themselves, but that's not really the point - the cyclical genocide is ended.
Except Mass Effect has never been a horror game and we already know for a fact that none of the races in ME are completely annihilated (watch the latest ME4 trailer released during the E3).
Where does the trailer show that? The only races we see in that trailerare Human and Krogan, and some unidentified race.
Speaking of missing the point... you defeat the reapers in 3 of the endings, and don't in one. In all 3 endings where the reapers are defeated life goes on in one form or another - free to make mistakes and/or do bad things to themselves, but that's not really the point - the cyclical genocide is ended.
Clearly the 4th ending is the canon one
Clearly the 4th ending is the canon one
But does this Confirm Half-Life 3?
But does this Confirm Half-Life 3?
Son, this confirms half life 4
And Episode 3
Clearly the 4th ending is the canon one
Maybe they'll do it for the lulz. 
Except Mass Effect has never been a horror game and we already know for a fact that none of the races in ME are completely annihilated (watch the latest ME4 trailer released during the E3).
So yeah, any validity for the IT just pretty much flew out of the window. Not that the IT had any validity to begin with.
No, the trailer does nothing to disprove the galactic annihilation if the ark left the Milky Way before the third game ended. It can all still be consistent with everyone's headcanon, as long as they left before they knew if the war would be won. I mean, in that case the folks in Andromeda would be the last members of their races, but they wouldn't have to know that in any event.
Speaking of missing the point... you defeat the reapers in 3 of the endings, and don't in one. In all 3 endings where the reapers are defeated life goes on in one form or another - free to make mistakes and/or do bad things to themselves, but that's not really the point - the cyclical genocide is ended.
Why are you telling me irrelevant things that I already know?
Why are you telling me irrelevant things that I already know?
You argued people wanted IT because they wanted a happy ending, as if the game wasn't already chock full of happy endings. What a boring debate. 
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