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[Kaiser Arian XVII]

I used to play "256 color" games in late 90s and they were OK (kinda artistic!) 16bit (6500 colors?) and 24bit were quite super awesome back then!

[Riven326]

Build it yourself. Saves you money versus having it pre-built. But it's whatever you want to to do.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

What's your budget and desired resolution OP? None of the 'cheapest as possible' stuff, everyone wants one cheap as possible. A hard limit on what you're willing to spend really is necessary especially if you don't want it to be outdated in a couple of years.

[Voxr]

I imagine if we're looking for "highest performance for as cheap as possible". That'd be around a 1,100-1,300. Not that you couldn't go higher, but I find you start going into the enthusiast level and diminishing returns. Certainly you could go lower too though anything under 650 I'd stay away from. I've found 850-1,200 to be a "sweet spot" when it comes to a "budget build." But that's just me, and different budgets allow for different builds. I will also recommend AMD for a budget build too. Intel is great as well, but when it comes to price for performance in the last couple of years AMD, to me at least, seems the better choice for a lower price/budget rig. 

[_aLucidMind_]

What budget?

 

Oh, and before you get any funny ideas, no Alienware!

As cheap as possible but am willing to pay what's necessary. So if the cheapest for a high end PC winds up being close to $500 after a new PC, great; if I need $1,000 then that's fine as well. I'm just looking to get a rough budget together and to compile a sort of shopping list to check off as the year goes on.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

You could probably put something together for $450 that can match it with next gen consoles with some luck, but Windows is such a big money sink and makes things difficult.

I'll give partpicker a go with a budget of $800 in mind since that's what I consider a typical budget.

[Fidite Nemini]

As cheap as possible but am willing to pay what's necessary. So if the cheapest for a high end PC winds up being close to $500 after a new PC, great; if I need $1,000 then that's fine as well. I'm just looking to get a rough budget together and to compile a sort of shopping list to check off as the year goes on.

 

What sorts of games do you play and are looking forward to play? For 1000$ you could get a pretty powerful gaming PC, but if you don't play games that would require such performance, that's a waste of money.

 

Take a look at the recommended specs for games you like to play, that's a good starting point.

[FemShem]

Man I've never had a Dell last more than 6 months w/o meltdown.

I'm truly impressed!

I had to switch to apple.  More annoying, but much harder to kill!

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

You could probably put something together for $450 that can match it with next gen consoles with some luck, but Windows is such a big money sink and makes things difficult.

I'll give partpicker a go with a budget of $800 in mind since that's what I consider a typical budget.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LVnVQ7

I'm leery about recommending an AM3+ system since Zen isn't that far away, but yeah it's an okay starting point for something I threw together in 4-5 minutes. Can add in an SSD for $100 or so, it's a worthwhile purchase but I did limit myself to $800 lol. If you don't plan to overclock, then throw out the cooler and bump the power supply down to the CX500 and save a tad more money (~$35). R9 290 for mine offers the best price/performance ratio as a card that doesn't break the bank but can handle pretty much anything with gusto. Once you start moving higher up the food chain, you start to encounter diminishing returns IMO.

[L. Han]

Oooh... A PC that old might be a little too outdated to upgrade. You are definitely going to need a new motherboard and power supply.

 

Something you should keep in mind about picking an SSD and a hard disk. The difference between the two is quite noticable. Get both if you wish to only boot up your PC faster and store a few programs/games that you play often/have long loading times.

[bmwcrazy]

If you're in the US, what I would like to do is to pick out the best front page deals on Slickdeals.

I'm actually scraping together a new build for no more than $500. Something to leave at my friend's place so I don't have to carry a computer when we have a LAN party.

So far, I've gotten the following:

$55 = Asus Z87-Pro
$65 = 16GB (2x8GB) PNY XLR8 DDR3 1866 RAM
$60 = 850W XFX Core Edition Pro850w PSU
$30 = Antec Kuhler H2O 950 Liquid CPU Cooler
$70 = 240GB OCZ Arc 100 SSD

I already have a spare computer case, a monitor, and a video card. So now all I need is a CPU.

[Voxr]

As cheap as possible but am willing to pay what's necessary. So if the cheapest for a high end PC winds up being close to $500 after a new PC, great; if I need $1,000 then that's fine as well. I'm just looking to get a rough budget together and to compile a sort of shopping list to check off as the year goes on.

That still doesn't give much to go on. Take Fidite's advice and look at what games you like/want to play. 

 

I'll tell you right now $500 will not get you a high end rig. Maybe something, like Crusty said, that can keep up with the current gen consoles. But you'd be hard pressed to get anything maxed and running silk smooth at a decent res (Not saying you're particularly looking for that, just using it as an example). $500-$1,000 is actually a lot of room to get something good or to get something that you don't want. Crusty's build is actually pretty good for a solid rig at moderate price. 

 

If you're in the US, what I would like to do is to pick out the best front page deals on Slickdeals.

I'm actually scraping together a new build for no more than $500. Something to leave at my friend's place so I don't have to carry a computer when we have a LAN party.

So far, I've gotten the following:

$55 = Asus Z87-Pro
$65 = 16GB (2x8GB) PNY XLR8 DDR3 1866 RAM
$60 = 850W XFX Core Edition Pro850w PSU
$30 = Antec Kuhler H2O 950 Liquid CPU Cooler
$70 = 240GB OCZ Arc 100 SSD

I already have a spare computer case, a monitor, and a video card. So now all I need is a CPU.

I'd recommend an FX-6350. It maybe a little bit above budget, but it's a solid little CPU for about 125 reg.

 

EDIT: Oops I just noticed your board >.< Never mind.

[L. Han]

You shouldn't concern yourself with too much future-proofing. If you do it anyway, I think investing extra on the CPU isn't a bad bet. Should your hardware not meet requirements you can always get better cooling systems and overclock your hardware.

[Voxr]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LVnVQ7

I'm leery about recommending an AM3+ system since Zen isn't that far away, but yeah it's an okay starting point for something I threw together in 4-5 minutes. Can add in an SSD for $100 or so, it's a worthwhile purchase but I did limit myself to $800 lol. If you don't plan to overclock, then throw out the cooler and bump the power supply down to the CX500 and save a tad more money (~$35). R9 290 for mine offers the best price/performance ratio as a card that doesn't break the bank but can handle pretty much anything with gusto. Once you start moving higher up the food chain, you start to encounter diminishing returns IMO.

If they could wait until Zen I would recommend it. But the 8320 will still be a good deal IMO. Even if they do want to OC. 

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

I'm pleasantly surprised at the punch the AMD FX 83xx CPUs have in certain workloads. I took an OEM FX 8300 from a friend as payment for building him a new PC when his motherboard fried and pledged he would never go prebuilt and AMD again.

I bought a 990FX motherboard on Gumtree and gave it a spin. OC'd it to 4.2 GHz at 1.27v since I wanted a focus on performance per watt (yes an AMD lol). Surprisingly, it shaved 7 minutes off a transcoding/Handbrake workload that took my main PC (i5 3570k @ 4.5 GHz) around 30 minutes. Handy stuff. It's now at 4.4 GHz/1.3v so it's slightly better now.

The FX 8300 is now my main rig simply because the motherboard better fits my case/fan aesthetic and daily use isn't really affected. I know I take a hit when it comes to certain things like games and I struggle when I try to record gameplay via the CPU.

But I am chuffed at how good it is. I am still upset about the lies that came with Bulldozer but Vischera is quite solid if you are willing to work with what you have.

Anyways budget build time.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Lt2Mp

It's not great price wise (Windows is a ****** for budget builds), nor particularly "future proof" but I'm led to believe it can handle GTA V on normal to high settings at around 40-50 fps average at 1080p.

[Voxr]

I'd recommend an after market cooler with that Athlon. The stock cooler is garbage.

I had one come into our lab last year. I wanted to throughout it on the ****** ground.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

212+ Evo fixes all...

[Voxr]

Nah, get a V8 GTS. 

 

 

****** stylin'!

[Uccio]

You cannot upgrade it.

 

A Pentium 233 or Pentium II 400 MHz is no use. Most of its parts are either outdated or rusted.

 

You should buy every single part of your new PC. Even Keyboard and Mouse can't be used (different ports).

 

Yep, easiest way is to start fresh with new gear.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Nah, get a V8 GTS.


****** stylin'!

You can't be serious.

You ain't stylin' if you ain't using Based Zalman coolers.



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[Voxr]

You can't be serious.

You ain't stylin' if you ain't using Based Zalman coolers.

Right? Speaking of peripherals. OP should totally get a Mad Catz R.A.T while they're at it. 

 

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[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Right? Speaking of peripherals. OP should totally get a Mad Catz R.A.T while they're at it.

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Add a Razer keyboard to that and OP will be ready to totally dominate.

[Voxr]

Add a Razer keyboard to that and OP will be ready to totally dominate.

2X-Treme4me

 

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I still stand behind my Razer Naga. As much wear I've put it through. It keeps on chugging like the toolbag it is.

For Gamers. By Gamers, babe

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

You can't be serious.

You ain't stylin' if you ain't using Based Zalman coolers.



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Zalman fans ftw.

Dem Retards didn't have any in our Tech markets.