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[Sylvius the Mad]

Not that many people cares about modding their games

Then they shouldn't whine about mod solutions only being available on PC.

[Han Shot First]

Except it doesn't work because even in ME2 it was completely inconsistent with how the established rules of the setting worked. To have characters go into battle the way those you mentioned did was bad world design and writing.

 

I have no problem with them wearing revealing outfits while off duty and/or on the Normandy. But when the basic established rules of the setting say that you wear armour in combat and a full helmet in a hostile environment - which ME1 did - you don't have characters going into battle dressed like that.

 

I agree.

 

It isn't even necessary for the establishes rules of the universe to be set aside for the sake of sex appeal. It is possible to have armor designs that both look fully functional and still manage to be sexy. 

[AresKeith]

Then they shouldn't whine about mod solutions only being available on PC.

 

And I could also say modders shouldn't whine when a game don't allow that many mods *shrugs*

[von uber]

Not that many people cares about modding their games

Not many console gamers you mean. I bet you that most pc players probably have at least one mod on a game they have, even if it us something simple like a ui fix.

[AresKeith]

Not many console gamers you mean. I bet you that most pc players probably have at least one mod on a game they have, even if it us something simple like a ui fix.

 

Yeah I was referring to console gamers 

[Sylvius the Mad]

And I could also say modders shouldn't whine when a game don't allow that many mods *shrugs*

An unmoddable game needs to be just about perfect out of the box. It needs to serve a wider audience with its built-in features.

If it doesn't, it should be criticized for that.

[AresKeith]

An unmoddable game needs to be just about perfect out of the box. It needs to serve a wider audience with its built-in features.

If it doesn't, it should be criticized for that.

 

Which any game is never going to be because nothing is perfect

[Inquisitor_Jonah]

I agree.

 

It isn't even necessary for the establishes rules of the universe to be set aside for the sake of sex appeal. It is possible to have armor designs that both look fully functional and still manage to be sexy. 

The ME1 light armors are exactly what you are asking. They were tight, almost like catsuits, but they had the proper plating a actual, practical armor should have. I think they should allow us to equip armors in the squad like in ME1 again, and make these fanservice outfits they started doing in ME2 just for off dutty hours. That would solve the issue.

[Broganisity]

I'd say the closest I come to having any real sense of sexual appetite would be that I respect people who care for themselves and seek to improve upon themselves in a variety of physical and intellectual ways.

That said, I'm in the minority and most people like booties, boobies, elbows, and other assorted body parts. It's a natural part of the standard human condition and should have a presence in the game world just as any similar matters should. We have toilet humor, we have dark humor, we have sadness and relief, violence (don't think I need a link here ), torture and interrogation. .all these things have been depicted in the Mass Effect series just as the various topics of sex have been:

 

- Sexuality

- Sex Appeal

- Sex in and of (and around? ) itself (and through clothes. . .? )

. . .but don't forget that combat encourages practicality. Shields and barriers are all well and good, but when those go down armor is the difference between severe bruising and bleeding all over the place. . .and crazy, up-the-butt tattoos alone can't protect you from the cold void of space, Jack. And when those barriers go down, you'll wish you had a pressurized suit on.

 

. . .and who said armor can't be 'sexy' anyways? Just because you don't got boob cleavage in that armor (Samara) doesn't mean it's not sexy. People think certain types of cars are 'sexy' in how they are built: sleek, stylish, coloring. . .and last I checked cars don't have jugs unless you're driving home from the grocery.

 

Armor's not all that different. I'm partial to semi-bulky armor reminiscent of a knight's armor, and you gotta admit that the Blood Dragon Armor looks mighty fine, mmph. Don't need boob windows or boob plates to look nice!

[Ahriman]

The ME1 light armors are exactly what you are askig. They were tight, almost like catsuits, but they had the proper plating a actual, practical armor should have. I think they should allow us to equip armors in the squad like in ME1 again, and make these fanservice outfits they started doing in ME2 just for off dutty hours. That would solve the issue.

After 116 pages we finally returned to OP's suggestion.

Jokes aside, yeah it would. They could even sell combat catsuits and formal outfits as DLC. But the thing is that you never know where "artistic vision" hits. Boring sci-fi armor is cool and all, but know what's cooler? Walking in same jacket everywhere for years.

[AresKeith]

The ME1 light armors are exactly what you are askig. They were tight, almost like catsuits, but they had the proper plating a actual, practical armor should have. I think they should allow us to equip armors in the squad like in ME1 again, and make these fanservice outfits they started doing in ME2 just for off dutty hours. That would solve the issue.

 

I once said earlier in the thread that they should go the DAI route with squad customization

[Inquisitor_Jonah]

After 116 pages we finally returned to OP's suggestion.

Jokes aside, yeah it would. They could even sell combat catsuits and formal outfits as DLC. But the thing is that you never know where "artistic vision" hits. Boring sci-fi armor is cool and all, but know what's cooler? Walking in same jacket everywhere for years.

Can't they just redesign the armors to look "cool"? I don't think that's an issue for a designer. I get that people want a badass looking gear, I want too, It's my char, I want his armor and outfits to be dashing. Heck, I have my Shepards, who were supposed to wear a formal suit because of their ranks, walk around like this:

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But in combat, they wear proper armor. Thats basic logic that needs to be used for the rest of the characters. I really cringe wen I see Miranda and the others in caitsuits under heavy gunfire, and with that shitty breather masks in a planet that is supposed to have no atmosphere or a damn radiative sun.

[RZIBARA]

Then they shouldn't whine about mod solutions only being available on PC.

 

I game shouldnt feature crap and only be able to fixed via mods. Seriously what the hell is your issue?

[Sylvius the Mad]

Which any game is never going to be because nothing is perfect

Which is why games should be moddable.

[Ahriman]

Can't they just redesign the armors to look "cool"? 

Of course they can, most of ME armor does look cool and everyone can name hundred of reasons why it's more practical than magic shields with spandex. But what if you really need that cameltoe to be seen? ME3 shook off a lot of it, but it's always there, lurking in Freid's unconscious, waiting for marketing command. 

In ideal world there would be options for everyone. Now I just hope that majority of possible ME customers prefers proper armor and ME team doesn't have too many comic fans.

[Sylvius the Mad]

I game shouldnt feature crap and only be able to fixed via mods. Seriously what the hell is your issue?

We clearly don't all agree as to what features are good and what features are bad. An unmoddable game must therefore disappoint some players.

A moddable game, though, serves a broader audience.

[Inquisitor_Jonah]

Of course they can, most of ME armor does look cool and everyone can name hundred of reasons why it's more practical than magic shields with spandex. But what if you really need that cameltoe to be seen? ME3 shook off a lot of it, but it's always there, lurking in Freid's unconscious, waiting for marketing command. 

In ideal world there would be options for everyone. Now I just hope that majority of possible ME customers prefers proper armor and ME team doesn't have too many comic fans.

You missed my point lol I was talking about ME1 style armors, that looked more or less the same, but with different textures. The light armors had the perfect mix of practical protection and were tight enough to satisfy people that want their char to be sexy. The problem, as I said, were the poor taste the textures for the armor designs. But I wish armors like that return in Andromeda, so we can customize the way our squadmates go to battle, so they can actually look prepared.

[PhroXenGold]

We clearly don't all agree as to what features are good and what features are bad. An unmoddable game must therefore disappoint some players.

A moddable game, though, serves a broader audience.

 

On the other hand, the sacrifices made in order to enable modding might well make the game less appealing to other sections of the audience.

 

Don't get me wrong, I want to see games with mod support. But it's not simply a matter of flicking a switch and letting players do what they want with the code. As with everything in development, there's tradeoffs.

[Altair_ShepardN7]

This thread was very close to being forgotten and finally being able to rest in peace, why did they had to bring it back to life?

[Sully13]

Someone made a parrody and onething led to another and sexy nuns were involved.

[Asari Goddess]

Someone made a parrody and onething led to another and sexy nuns were involved.

 

LOL ME

 

    GOD  BLESS   

[Sylvius the Mad]

On the other hand, the sacrifices made in order to enable modding might well make the game less appealing to other sections of the audience.

Don't get me wrong, I want to see games with mod support. But it's not simply a matter of flicking a switch and letting players do what they want with the code. As with everything in development, there's tradeoffs.

Modding doesn't need to be made easy. Even if they just let us open up the files, and then tell us what middleware we need (or need to emulate) in order to repack it. Even if only a small portion of the modding community has access to the necessary tools, we'd work something out.

[Stakrin]

I do. That body type shouldn't appear on any character that is a combat squadmate. Female soldiers and athletes don't look like pornstars, because carrying around 10 kilos of subcutaneous fat on your chest is a huge literal and figurative liability when you actually need to run a couple of miles in under 14 minutes, do some pushups or are already saddled with a combat load near your own body weight. Or fit into standardized body armors, for that matter. Maybe all the females are wearing bras that use mass effect fields to mitigate the disadvantages?

Makes sense for Miranda because of her creepy dad. And maybe biotic people because that use as frequently if not more than muscle power.

[Asari Goddess]

Makes sense for Miranda because of her creepy dad. And maybe biotic people because that use as frequently if not more than muscle power.

 

Exactly Miranda is suppose to represent what her dad think is perfect in a women. So that's why she has the body and wardrobe given to her. If you perfect acording to her DAD, you can go to battle in heels and fight in tight catsuit like outfits.

[In Exile]

Exactly Miranda is suppose to represent what her dad think is perfect in a women. So that's why she has the body and wardrobe given to her. If you perfect acording to her DAD, you can go to battle in heels and fight in tight catsuit like outfits.

 

That's SUPER CREEPY. I'm just going to point that out.