Nudity in sex scenes means next to nothing. Not everybody saw that 'cause some people don't like romances and some stop playing before sex scenes become available.
On the contrary, combat outfit is something everyone sees 90% of the time he spends in the games. And combat outfits are more revealing in DAO, less revealing in DA2, and not revealing at all in DAI.
What? We have warrior who fights half naked.
Is it me or your concept of sexy is human male specimens with more body hair 
but this is what i call sexy
i need a turian in my life D:
Now you're gonna tell me wedgies are art
We wouldn't even be having this conversation if her butt line was drawn to be physically possible
Pfftt.... I see women EVERYDAY with pants as tight as Miranda's (leggings,yoga pants, etc.), so don't give me that.
As for how women can find that comfortable to wear, I'll never know. 
Pfftt.... I see women EVERYDAY with pants as tight as Miranda's (leggings,yoga pants, etc.), so don't give me that.
As for how women can find that comfortable to wear, I'll never know.
I think leather up your ass is something entirely different. But seriously, yoga pants and leggings are super comfortable, you can't even feel them on, and they usually don't hike up, they hug your ass nice and comfy.
Nudity in sex scenes means next to nothing. Not everybody saw that 'cause some people don't like romances and some stop playing before sex scenes become available.
On the contrary, combat outfit is something everyone sees 90% of the time he spends in the games. And combat outfits are more revealing in DAO, less revealing in DA2, and not revealing at all in DAI.
Well I've heard the argument that: "Since I'll be spending X dozens of hours in this game, I might as well have something nice to look at."
Which is fair enough.
To me, personally, it ruins the immersion.
I think leather up your ass is something entirely different. But seriously, yoga pants and leggings are super comfortable, you can't even feel them on, and they usually don't hike up, they hug your ass nice and comfy.
OP is Homer.
Question, why is this even an issue? I can understand if MEA was supposed to be rated E and published by Disney and intended for kids, but that is not the case.
Why are people so prudish?
It's got nothing to do with being prude?
I personally find skimpy armor and overly sexy clothes in eg. professional situation immersion breaking and making a joke out of something meant to be serious.
They can get as raunchy, as they want to at the appropriate times and situations (bedroom, dark alley, gloryhole whatever) in the story.
That's just how I prefer it... and if they wanna make a game to me and likeminded people, they should take that route.
If most people feel that way, that is... If most people feel otherwise... they should do otherwise.
Question, why is this even an issue? I can understand if MEA was supposed to be rated E and published by Disney and intended for kids, but that is not the case.
Only in a Bioware forum would such topic gain so much attention.
Why are people so prudish?
I think the main complain here has been that it makes game less immersive and less mature.
Question, why is this even an issue? I can understand if MEA was supposed to be rated E and published by Disney and intended for kids, but that is not the case.
Only in a Bioware forum would such topic gain so much attention.
Why are people so prudish?
I assume you haven't read the thread then.
Going into combat wearing a bikini isn't very realistic, even worse if you do so in space or toxic environments. It ruins the immersion. Characters can wear whatever they want offduty but I expect a proper suit and armor when on a mission.
I think the main complain here has been that it makes game less immersive and less mature.
I assume you haven't read the thread then.
Going into combat wearing a bikini isn't very realistic, even worse if you do so in space or toxic environments. It ruins the immersion. Characters can wear whatever they want offduty but I expect a proper suit and armor when on a mission.
Things that ruin my immersion way more than skimpy outfits ever could hope to do:
To mention just a few. Most of the ME2 wearing informal wear when most of them would operate in urban areas anyway? I can live with it. This is why I don't take complains against skimpy outfits seriously. ME as a series has never been realistic. I don't think people complaining about this are being as objective as they think they are.
I think the main complain here has been that it makes game less immersive and less mature.
I assume you haven't read the thread then.
Going into combat wearing a bikini isn't very realistic, even worse if you do so in space or toxic environments. It ruins the immersion. Characters can wear whatever they want offduty but I expect a proper suit and armor when on a mission.
What is with all this "realistic" or "immersion breaking" nonsense? This is a sci-fi VIDEOGAME and there were MANY things that were immersion breaking/not realistic in ME1-ME3 and yet the only one we want to concentrate on is this? I think Gwydden's comment really sums it up perfectly.
Again, this is why I believe this is more along the lines of prude sensitivities rather than something of a true serious concern.
People, there are FAR MORE other concerns that we should be concerned about in MEA based off of the actions that Bioware took in ME3 and especially DAI than female (and male) characters wearing revealing clothes into battle. I mean really? Are we really going to bring this up as a serious concern?
Things that ruin my immersion way more than skimpy outfits ever could hope to do:
- Interspecies sex
- Nonsensical "science"
- Deus Ex Machina
- Shepard, the suest Sue who ever sued
- The Illuminati, err, I mean, Cerberus
- Ever so heroic military versus ever ineffectual politicians
- The whole insane acid trip that is the ending
- The most unprofessional military vessel I've ever seen in fiction
- The deafening roar of explosions in deep space
- How the hell is Shepard not indoctrinated yet?
To mention just a few. Most of the ME2 wearing informal wear when most of them would operate in urban areas anyway? I can live with it. This is why I don't take complains against skimpy outfits seriously. ME as a series has never been realistic. I don't think people complaining about this are being as objective as they think they are.
Exactly my point! Well said.
What is with all this "realistic" or "immersion breaking" nonsense? This is a sci-fi VIDEOGAME and there were MANY things that were immersion breaking/not realistic in ME1-ME3 and yet the only one we want to concentrate on is this? I think Gwydden's comment really sums it up perfectly.
Again, this is why I believe this is more along the lines of prude sensitivities rather than something of a true serious concern.
People, there are FAR MORE other concerns that we should be concerned about in MEA based off of the actions that Bioware took in ME3 and especially DAI than female (and male) characters wearing revealing clothes into battle. I mean really? Are we really going to bring this up as a serious concern?
Exactly my point! Well said.
Mature usually aims to realism in the context it's in without losing scifi and fantasy elements, but not forgetting laws of science and reality either.
Comparison from anime:
More mature scifi:
http://cdn.myanimeli...ime/8/50463.jpg
(Planetes)
Less mature scifi:
http://vignette2.wik...=20110508001535
(Dragon Ball)
Basically the more far it goes from realism less mature the thing becomes even though some other aspects can increase maturity even if things go very unrealistic.. for example philosophy ^^
I think Japan is quite good comparison to make anyways, since shonen- anime (genre for teenager boys) has lot of unrealistic clothing and panty shots when seinen ( genre for adult men) tends to have more well.. mature nudity.
Mature usually aims to realism in the context it's in without losing scifi and fantasy elements, but not forgetting laws of science and reality either.
That's just the thing. ME has a long tradition of ignoring science whenever it pleases, be it for plot or fanservice. You're asking for it to be something it's not.
That's just the thing. ME has a long tradition of ignoring science whenever it pleases, be it for plot or fanservice. You're asking for it to be something it's not.
I think people are missing more maturity in terms of armors and that's why this thread exists ^^
I think people are missing more maturity in terms of armors and that's why this thread exists ^^
But I'm not 
And I'm not alone in that. That is an entirely subjective opinion that only relates to personal taste. Ultimately, I think the devs should do what they please and I'll be fine either way. But I also think there are many more important issues in the game. This just seems like a ridiculously minor thing to get worked up about, in a game that has never prided itself on realism.
Mature usually aims to realism in the context it's in without losing scifi and fantasy elements, but not forgetting laws of science and reality either.
Comparison from anime:
More mature scifi:
http://cdn.myanimeli...ime/8/50463.jpg
(Planetes)
Less mature scifi:
http://vignette2.wik...=20110508001535
(Dragon Ball)
Basically the more far it goes from realism less mature the thing becomes even though some other aspects can increase maturity even if things go very unrealistic.. for example philosophy ^^
I think Japan is quite good comparison to make anyways, since shonen- anime (genre for teenager boys) has lot of unrealistic clothing and panty shots when seinen ( genre for adult men) tends to have more well.. mature nudity.
And yet you dodge Gwydden's list of the many other unrealistic aspects of Mass Effect.
Again, why such a strong focus on sexualization when there are WAY MORE other things about ME that are unrealistic/illogical?
Things that ruin my immersion way more than skimpy outfits ever could hope to do:
- Interspecies sex
- Nonsensical "science"
- Deus Ex Machina
- Shepard, the suest Sue who ever sued
- The Illuminati, err, I mean, Cerberus
- Ever so heroic military versus ever ineffectual politicians
- The whole insane acid trip that is the ending
- The most unprofessional military vessel I've ever seen in fiction
- The deafening roar of explosions in deep space
- How the hell is Shepard not indoctrinated yet?
To mention just a few. Most of the ME2 wearing informal wear when most of them would operate in urban areas anyway? I can live with it. This is why I don't take complains against skimpy outfits seriously. ME as a series has never been realistic. I don't think people complaining about this are being as objective as they think they are.
Of course it has never been realistic. It's very soft sci-fi, almost fantasy in some regard. And yes, there were lots of nonsensical things in the trilogy.
That doesn't mean you can do whatever you want, you still need to have internal consistency.
Your argument boils down to "Well, the main supports for the house are faulty, so who cares if the roof is on fire?" There is already so much unrealistic stuff in ME, why should we accept something like skimpy outfits when that's changed easily? The game doesn't get better by being 100% unrealistic.
And yet you dodge Gwydden's list of the many other unrealistic aspects of Mass Effect.
Again, why such a strong focus on sexualization when there are WAY MORE other things about ME that are unrealistic/illogical?
Because I'm behind on what people have quoted me ^^
Because, that's what people notice and what is inconsistent, Shepard has always heavy armory on when companions seem not care about radiation nor people with guns at all.
Because I'm behind on what people have quoted me ^^
Because, that's what people notice and what is inconsistent, Shepard has always heavy armory on when companions seem not care about radiation nor people with guns at all.
I detest Shepard's armor. Too bulky; not sexy enough 
I detest Shepard's armor. Too bulky; not sexy enough
I personally love it and what you can do with it ^^
Though where are all normal colors in ME3..
I detest Shepard's armor. Too bulky; not sexy enough
Yes, because "sexy" is the most important attribute when it comes to armor...
Of course it has never been realistic. It's very soft sci-fi, almost fantasy in some regard. And yes, there were lots of nonsensical things in the trilogy.
That doesn't mean you can do whatever you want, you still need to have internal consistency.
Your argument boils down to "Well, the main supports for the house are faulty, so who cares if the roof is on fire?" There is already so much unrealistic stuff in ME, why should we accept something like skimpy outfits when that's changed easily? The game doesn't get better by being 100% unrealistic.
Because I'm behind on what people have quoted me ^^
Because, that's what people notice and what is inconsistent, Shepard has always heavy armory on when companions seem not care about radiation nor people with guns at all.
I doubt that.
If realism is your true concern, then ALL aspects about ME that were unrealistic/immersion breaking should be addressed, but that isn't happening. Instead, you all just want to focus on ONE aspect while at the same time essentially ignoring all other unrealistic aspects of ME. Again, this is why I say this is more about prude sensitivities rather than a legitimate argument.
This has never been about realism but something that spawned out of a few people who did not like the sexualization of female characters and then evolved into sexualization of all characters male or female. That is what this is about, not realism.
Try harder.
Question, why is this even an issue? I can understand if MEA was supposed to be rated E and published by Disney and intended for kids, but that is not the case.
Only in a Bioware forum would such topic gain so much attention.
Why are people so prudish?
How you dare to use logic.
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