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[Panda]

That's a rather shallow and inaccurate view of relationships.

 

Manipulation is present in some form or fashion in pretty much all of the relationships we have, including (or perhaps, especially) intimate ones. And the idea that 'asking' is always a necessary process is just silly nonsense.

 

Consider the kiss at the climax at Lair of the Shadow Broker. Liara moves in to kiss Shepard, and yet pulls back. Retreats. Backs off. You surely aren't suggesting Shepard is abusive for forcefully kissing her anyways, without asking her first?
 

 

Well Grey does not only manipulate, but also stalks, threatens and isolates Anastasia, so I think it's quite fair to say that the relationship at least is quite unhealthy one and that Anastasia should run.. though since she already has stalker who has  threatened her that he will find her if she leaves.. well maybe safe houses for women are her best bet.

 

I don't really think there is lot of room of questioning is the relationship abusive or not though, since tons of psychologist and those who know about abuse have said it is.

Well DaemionMoadrin said about it already, but basically the BDSM isn't problem in it at least for me, the film would be abusive even if there wasn't any BDSM nor even sex. I mean Grey stalks her, threatens her, controls and manipulates her, isolates her and so on.

[FKA_Servo]

1: stop trying to be politcal correct
2: stop trying to cater to the feminist crowd

Mass Effect 2 was awesome, it's the best of the trilogy, Bioware don't listen to this guy just do your stuff like you always did with Mass Effect.

I suspect you're setting yourself up for disappointment, there.

[Hazegurl]

I do not buy product where it bothers me that much that I can't handle it. Still, wouldn't you like your favorite things be filled mostly with good moments and not being half of the time annoying? I don't mind things having content that I don't care about, I mind things forcing me into content that break immersion and cheapens the game. Miranda's buttshots are out of place, I have said multiple times that they can be included, but in romantic/flirting situation, not when she's worrying about her sister and you stare her butt like some creep.

 

Of course I would love the things I like to be filled with only the things I love, but I know that I'm not the only person who watches and enjoy the product.

 

lol! I don't even look at her butt. I know my Shepard isn't either. Our eyes are only for Kaidan.

 

 So I'm giving feedback and talking about these things cause I want things to get better and I know they can get better.

 

Once again, there is nothing wrong with giving feedback. I'm not even telling you, you can't do that. I'm just pointing out that you're not helpless when it comes to big companies.  You do have buying power. Whether you decide to use it or not.

 

These actresses talk about sexism in Hollywood themselves, I'm not trying to make here victims out of them against their will.

 

 

And I'm not saying sexism in Hollywood doesn't exist but that actresses have contributed to that system.  Claiming they had no choice is taking personal responsibility away from them. They're not children.

 

As for Fifty Shades. Perhaps it is an abusive relationship, I wouldn't know, never read it. But it was written by a woman and it appeals to the millions of other women all over the world who made it surpass the Bible in sales.  It just further cements my earlier opinion that what most women are asking for isn't what they're actually buying. 

[Seishoujyo]

I suspect you're setting yourself up for disappointment, there.

 

I was disapointed by Gaider, Laidlaw and the DA team on Inquisition, but the ME team is different, so I m pretty confident.

[Iakus]

1: stop trying to be politcal correct

2: stop trying to cater to the feminist crowd

3: people like you Rzibara are seriously pissing me off

 

Mass Effect 2 was awesome, it's the best of the trilogy, Bioware don't listen to this guy just do your stuff like you always did with Mass Effect. Mass Effect is like you James Bond movie, so of course you have you beautiful women in stiletto or catsuits.

1) How is putting female (or male for that matter) characters dressing appropriately for combat being politically correct?  Is this not simple common sense?

2) Again how is this catering to the feminist crowd?  Do you think it's impossible to make a female form look attractive in outfits that don't look painted on?

3) That's unfortunate for you.

 

"Just do your stuff like you always did with Mass Effect" would have everyone going into battle in combat hardsuits.  And female crew members would have worn uniforms rather than catsuits.

 

You know, like in ME1 

[Shechinah]

Here is the Final Thoughts of the Fifty Shades of Grey book as a part of an in-depth sporking which sums up the different aspects of the book and the conclusion reached by the two people sporking it both of whom have personal experienced with abuse and one of the two also have personal experience with actual BDSM:

 

http://das-sporking.....com/377666.htm

 

 

 

Note: The link leads to content with some graphical description due to the content of the sporked material.

[Pasquale1234]

https://www.psycholo...pillover-effect

"These studies are important because every time someone sees a sexualized image of a woman (which studies show are far more frequent than those of sexualized men), this likely is detrimental to how women are perceived."

[Seishoujyo]

You know, like in ME1 

 

ME1 is ME1, the thing is ME2 and ME3 were better than ME1 in every aspect (well maybe not exploration), the chara design was better, gameplay, art direction too etc. I m just saying don't make a DA Inquisition with crappy looking characters. As for the armor it's about the character, Miranda doesn't like wearing armors that's all that's her style there is nothing wrong with this.

[FKA_Servo]

1) How is putting female (or male for that matter) characters dressing appropriately for combat being politically correct?  Is this not simple common sense?

2) Again how is this catering to the feminist crowd?  Do you think it's impossible to make a female form look attractive in outfits that don't look painted on?

3) That's unfortunate for you.

 

"Just do your stuff like you always did with Mass Effect" would have everyone going into battle in combat hardsuits.  And female crew members would have worn uniforms rather than catsuits.

 

You know, like in ME1 

 

I hope everyone's outfitted in an inch of composite armor, because it's friggin' awesome. I want everyone to look like Shepard did in ME2 and ME3.

 

That said, some posters here have, entirely through their own deficiencies, built up an impressive resistence to common sense.

[Iakus]

ME1 is ME1, the thing is ME2 and ME3 were better than ME1 in every aspect (well maybe not exploration), the chara design was better, gameplay, art direction too etc. I m just saying don't make a DA Inquisition with crappy looking characters. As for the armor it's about the character, Miranda doesn't like wearing armors that's all that's her style there is nothing wrong with this.

I had no problem with the appearance of characters in DAI.

 

As for armor, If Miranda doesn't want her "perfect body" covered in scars, burns and such, she'll want to wear some kind of protective clothing to keep her DD's intact

 

I hope everyone's outfitted in an inch of composite armor, because it's friggin' awesome. I want everyone to look like Shepard did in ME2 and ME3.

 

Now you're talking!

 

Heck I'd love to have seen Ash stomping around in a suit of power armor, or an Atlas, in combat. 

[Seishoujyo]

I had no problem with the appearance of characters in DAI.

 

As for armor, If Miranda doesn't want her "perfect body" covered in scars, burns and such, she'll want to wear some kind of protective clothing to keep her DD's intact

 

 

She's a biotic she has a botic barrier. I m not saying that every character should be running naked, but some of them have their reasons to not wear a real armor, it's part of the character like Miranda or Jack.

[Panda]

I think DAI thus far has had best armor system for companions/squadmates from BW's games, cause you get to decide their armor (like in DAO and ME1), but the armor will still follow their own style so iconic look (DA2, ME2-3) of characters is still present. Similar system would be amazing in ME, but for some reason I doubt ME:A is going to borrow it from DAI.

[Rekkampum]

She's a biotic she has a botic barrier. I m not saying that every character should be running naked, but some of them have their reasons to not wear a real armor, it's part of the character like Miranda or Jack.

 

Biotic barriers can't protect you from the vacuum of space and require the user's concentration to maintain.

[DaemionMoadrin]

That's a rather shallow and inaccurate view of relationships.

 

Manipulation is present in some form or fashion in pretty much all of the relationships we have, including (or perhaps, especially) intimate ones. And the idea that 'asking' is always a necessary process is just silly nonsense.

 

Consider the kiss at the climax at Lair of the Shadow Broker. Liara moves in to kiss Shepard, and yet pulls back. Retreats. Backs off. You surely aren't suggesting Shepard is abusive for forcefully kissing her anyways, without asking her first?
 

 

You are completely missing the point and that makes me feel sorry for any partner you may have.

 

Panda already explained it, so I'm not going to bother with it again.

[Kallas_br123]

Biotic barriers can't protect you from the vacuum of space and require the user's concentration to maintain.

this is not what shown in the game, and cutscenes, biotics can maintain barriers in combat situations. Now in relation to vacuum,  this I blame on budget, and laziness to create another armor model, and do not forget that the companions used in combat in ME2, was the same as they used then out of combat probably something related to encoding.

 

and leaving the subject of Miranda, assaris have any racial resistance to vacuum?

 

Sorry bad english

[FKA_Servo]

and leaving the subject of Miranda, assaris have any racial resistance to vacuum?

 

Sorry bad english

 

Why on earth would they?

[Kallas_br123]

Why on earth would they?

well everyone is discussing miranda, but Liara and if I'm not mistaken, and some other assaris appear wearing only a mask in situations of low oxygen or vacuum on several occasions.

[FKA_Servo]

well everyone is discussing miranda, but Liara and if I'm not mistaken, and some other assaris appear wearing only a mask in situations of low oxygen or vacuum on several occasions.

 

It's as you said in your previous post, probably - cost control and cut corners.

 

Watching Jack and Samara and the like dance around in their normal outfits in a vacuum was one of the most crushingly stupid parts of ME2, and I can't imagine it was explicitly by design.

[DaemionMoadrin]

well everyone is discussing miranda, but Liara and if I'm not mistaken, and some other assaris appear wearing only a mask in situations of low oxygen or vacuum on several occasions.

 

In ME1 all Asari wore full suits with helmets when outside/in combat. A breather mask would never be enough in vacuum, the pressure difference would mess up your body. Even if you have metallic skin and an exoskeleton like Turians (well, kinda) you'd still lose your eyes at least. Let's not even get into radiation and other dangers of bein outside a protective atmosphere.

[KaiserShep]

Liara even wears a full helmet in ME2's prologue. ME2's introduction of the breather ruined everything. It even filtered down to Liara's redesign for LotSB.

[Kallas_br123]

It's as you said in your previous post, probably - cost control and cut corners.

 

Watching Jack and Samara and the like dance around in their normal outfits in a vacuum was one of the most crushingly stupid parts of ME2, and I can't imagine it was explicitly by design.

hopefully maa engine, and the budget allowed a garment for every situation.

 

On the subject of Fanservice, I think a lot of people here, forget what the target audience of shooters, and sci fi games are.

[Kallas_br123]

In ME1 all Asari wore full suits with helmets when outside/in combat. A breather mask would never be enough in vacuum, the pressure difference would mess up your body. Even if you have metallic skin and an exoskeleton like Turians (well, kinda) you'd still lose your eyes at least. Let's not even get into radiation and other dangers of bein outside a protective atmosphere.

do not overdo it, exposure to vacuum not affect the body in such a dramatic way, your eyes do not explode, your sengue does not evaporate, or the like.

[FKA_Servo]

 

On the subject of Fanservice, I think a lot of people here, forget what the target audience of shooters, and sci fi games are.

 

 

I think some people apparently haven't been paying attention to the games that Bioware has been making for more than a decade now. Or, they just have terrible pattern recognition.

 

And ignoring the fact that they're understandably shooting for as broad an audience as possible (like every other developer), "target audience" nonsense is no excuse for hackneyed design decisions.

[Rhaenyss]

I think some people apparently haven't been paying attention to the games that Bioware has been making for more than a decade now. Or, they just have terrible pattern recognition.

 

And ignoring the fact that they're understandably shooting for as broad an audience as possible (like every other developer), "target audience" nonsense is no excuse for hackneyed design decisions.

 

Yeah, there are two things that always show up together in an argument about sexualization, "target audience" and "artistic integrity". I don't think you can have both, to be honest. If you're writing for your target audience, then your writing choices are constrained by what your target audience wants. There's no real creativity there. I mean, there can be, but you're still limited in what & how you write. 

[Rappeldrache]

 

On the subject of Fanservice, I think a lot of people here, forget what the target audience of shooters, and sci fi games are.

 

 

And Mass Effect is a RoleplayingGame .... so the customers here have chanced a lot in the past years. There are A LOT of women now playing Bioware games (even Mass Effect). It's not just the "little boy in Mom's cellar" anymore. And even the male gamers have chanced: They are older, have families, have a wife (have REAL sex by the way   ), have a job and a hard daywork.

A few boys, gamers are now adult man and have daughters and suddenly ... a few don't like it anymore that women look always so ... you know what I mean.

 

Probebly in a few years the "little boy" isn't very interesting to the Developer anymore, because the other groups grown up so fast .... and have a lot more money. Just a theory.

 

DAI was an financial success . And a lot of females played it. Till the next Dragon Age .... this will take a few years. So I'm SURE a lot of female gamer will take a look to this "Mass Effect A" - till they have no other games until DA4 (from Bioware).